Of Angels and Angles: 6/16 Game Thread - Angels at Jays
Thursday, August 16 - Toronto, Ontario
7:07 PM (EDT)
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Chone Figgins 3b Orlando Cabrera ss Vladimir Guererro rf Garrett Anderson dh Gary Matthews, Jr cf Casey Kothchman 1b Macier Izturis 2b Jeff Mathis c Reggie Willits lf Pitching: Kelvim Escobar, RHP |
Toronto Blue Jays Reed Johnson lf Lyle Overbay 1b Alexis Rios rf Vernon Wells cf Frank Thomas dh Troy Glaus 3b Aaron Hill 2b Greg Zaun c Ray Olmedo ss Pitching: Dustin McGowan, RHP |
While I inflict Decemberists references on everyone, the Jays go for the sweep tonight against the Angels. With the offense still showing no signs of emerging from its summer hibernation and Kelvim Escobar in the midst of a fantastic stretch (1.60 ERA in his last 7 starts) in a very fine season (12-6, 2.74 ERA, 115 K / 50 BB), it looks like the Jays will need a good start from Dustin McGowan. McGowan is 8-6 with a very respectable 4.12 ERA and reasonably good peripherals (83/41 K/BB).
For the Jays, Ray Olmedo gets the start, Sparky returns to LF, and Glaus is still healthy enough to play.
John Brattain has an interesting article on the Jays' offensive struggles this season. To summarize Brattain's point, John Gibbons has cost the Jays a chance at a playoff spot this season by refusing to use outs in order to move runners along. While it is not an unqualified call for small-ball, I think what Brattain is saying is that what the Jays have been doing is clearly not working, and Gibbons has shown his lack of vision and creativity by refusing to try different tactics just because they cut against his and JP's philosophy that outs should not be given away.
While I understand Brattain's point and I agree that Gibbons should be taken to task for failing to get more out of his offense this season or at least try to do so, I disagree with his desire to see the Jays make use of the productive out. I certainly understand the frustration (after all, I've been watching all season) with an offense that just hasn't been doing its job, particularly with runners on. However, I don't think sac bunts are the answer. For starters, the sac bunt isn't a particularly useful play, even if it works. Second, it doesn't even work 100% of the time, and when it fails it can be disastrous (to the inning). Third, the Jays are not particularly proficient at bunting - McDonald is probably the best, and he's by no means great. Sparky can bunt, but he's better at bunting his way on than sac bunting. The rest of the team do not bunt well. Fourth, with Thomas and Glaus (and perhaps Overbay) the best on the team at getting on base, bunts will have to be better than usual to move the runners up, and Glaus and Thomas both have leg/foot injury histories so you may not want to tax their lower bodies. Fifth, and perhaps most significantly, I think the Jays' biggest problem offensively has been failing to collect hits with runners in scoring position, particularly with two outs. Sac bunting isn't really going to help with that very much (it might lead to a few more sac fly or groundout RBI situations). August is a bit of an outlier because of the complete dearth of HRs, but that's how I see it anyway. The hit and run, which, to his credit, Brattain doesn't mention, is an even worse move.
Everyone seems to be saying that the Jays need to use more small-ball tactics, but I don't think it would help. Those tactics might work for a team well set up for them (this series aside, the Angels have had good offense despite very little power) but for a team like the Jays, I think it would just make a bad situation even worse, or no better. I would like to see a few more straight steals, but that's more of my bias as an old basestealing lag in my playing days than anything else.
Well, that's enough of that for now, time to play with the baby and put her to bed. What do y'all think? (not about the baby, haha)
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People thought Hill should have bunted last night.
A nice reliant automobile
The Anaheim Chop
6-4-3
I should've mentioned
You know it's a good inning
old friend Esco
little sarge
Sparky bloops one in
Hit & Run was on
hitting and running
It wasn't the hit and run that was the problem
that is true
He was running toward where the ball was hit
yes
rios and wells
Fallacy of Predetermined Outcome
It's easy
wow
It's easy
We looked pretty bad that inning.
did we ever
Don't walk a .200 hitter!
They got their hit and run to 'work'
Love the announcers defending small-ball
despite the two runs
Based on linear extrapolation we will be shut out
another lackluster inning
If it's any consolation
shockingly
He was hitting bunt singles last season
I'd imagine we will see Lind again
We already have Stairs as an option vs. Righties.
true
Lind is also apparently getting a reputation
I have also read that
to back up my dh idea
Of course his vesting option keys on games
McGowan loses Matthews
Stolen base on a pitchout
But we strand him
Didn't look very good that inning either
we're not really making Escobar throw
A nice reliant automobile
That was a worrying pitch from McGowan
It's easy
good inning
Bases empty, 3-0 count
And we stink out loud
It's easy
It's doubly easy
We'd better score now
if we can get one
at least mcgowan
Mike Wilner from Fan 590's claim:
My counter-claim:
If Zaun could throw baseballs like he throws bats
heh
of course ending with a K
The 3-1 pitch looked good to hit
olmedo
A one out rally?
sparky with the RBI
What's he batting now, .333?
could platoon Olmedo and Mac, I guess
Overbay follows with his second hit the other way
That's a good sign
Playing for the 3 run homer sounds so greedy
I like that a lot
Rios gotten
Wells has had doubles ability lately
when in trouble you
That's so terrible
not a darkwing duck fan
I liked it okay
Darkwing Duck, I mean
something depressing
Would you prefer a Bobblearm?
who would've thought
Because we've had good starts
I think Rios suffers from a lack of protection
that's why I like Rios up in the order
I think we could have declared Rios 3/Wells 4
nice defense there lyle
That sinks his gold glove chances.
i officially
And now Gibbons comes out
2-6
It's easy
We are all about warning track power
Good inning for Wolfe
escobar out
taking 3-1
Zaun keeps on truckin'
Stairs punched out
Johnson into the FC
Downs
And a defensive lapse by Overbay
See the bluejays.com notes column today?
I saw that
oh vernon
If we'd spread the runs from our 15-4 win
frank getting in on the act
So Glaus is the tying run?
Glaus walks easily
tough break
c'mon Zaun
wow
I wonder if they pitch around stairs?
well
Our lack of homers in the ninth
Guh... dynamic.fmpub.net sucks
Tigers are beating the Yanks
Tough Game
Discouraging loss. Dustin pitched OK.

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