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9/26 Game Thread: Baltimore, Maryland

Wednesday, September 26 - Baltimore, Maryland
7:05 PM (EDT)


Toronto Blue Jays
Reed Johnson rf
Matt Stairs 1b
Alexis Rios cf
Frank Thomas dh
Aaron Hill 2b
Greg Zaun c
Adam Lind lf
Russ Adams 3b
John McDonald ss

Pitching: Doc Halladay, RHP


Baltimore Orioles

Brian Roberts 2b
Melvin Mora dh
Nick Markakis rf
Miguel Tejada 3b
Kevin Millar 1b
Ramon Hernandez c
Scott Moore 3b
Jay Payton lf
Tyke Redman cf

Pitching: Victor Zambrano, RHP


Doc makes his last start of the season tonight against old "friend" Victor Zambrano as the Jays look to take another one from the O's. The hitting turned it on last night, and hopefully the bats will be out tonight again. Zambrano often has trouble finding the plate, so let's look to take some pitches.

This is the last turn through the rotation (Banks will get tomorrow's start against his hometown team in lieu of Marcum, who went under the knife today for knee surgery) and then we have to try to make sense of this season. That could take us straight into spring training, but hopefully we'll have plenty of time to discuss what we should do for next season.

To get y'all started, here's rotoworld's take on the AL's projected rosters. Doesn't look like there will be many changes for the Jays, but I'm hoping that J.P. is being at least a little coy and does plan to at least tinker to add depth. Luckily, we here at the Banter have a lot more ideas than Rotoworld did for the Jays.

In other news, Vernon Wells and Lyle Overbay underwent successful surgery, Wells to repair a partially torn labrum and Overbay to remove the screws that were placed in his hand when a John Danks fastball broke it. Wells' cyst was left alone as it was close to some nerves and didn't seem to be the cause of any problems. Wells is expected to be back to full strength by Spring Training easily, as is Lyle, who apparently had a lot of scar tissue, which explains some of the pain he's been feeling.

Finally, Jays hitting coach Mickey Brantley will not be asked to return next season. Many think this is part of a larger shakeup which will also claim Big Ern. While I'm sure it is not Brantley's fault so many Jays have underachieved offensively, he certainly didn't appear to do anything to help any of our boys break out of their extended funks. I can't recall any Jays noting receiving significant help from Brantley, and certainly the lackluster performance of young Adam Lind was a singificant part of their decision.

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Sparky leadoff plunk
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Stairs keeps on truckin'
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rios singles to left, no RBI
Bases loaded, no out.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Payton goes over the wall to bring back a salami
but Sparky scores on what turns out to be a sac fly.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hill bloop single, bases loaded again
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Zaun keeps on truckin' to an RBI
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Lind opposite field 2 RBI single
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Adams grounds into FC
first and third, 2 outs
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

nice start for the lads
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Johnny Mac keeps on truckin'
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sparky infield RBI single to third
Moore started toward third, which killed his chances of making the play at first.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Stairs 2 RBI single to the right center gap
Sparky to third.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Rios RBI bloop single to center
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Frank grounds out to strand 2
but with an 8 run lead, it's forgivable.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
where was this all season? of course, this is only about 1/2 the regulars we had to start the season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

poor
show by Adams, no SS has to make that play
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

haha
according to Palmer and Thorne, it will somehow help the Orioles next season to put up a fight in this game. I don't think so, fellas
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

same old Doc
pitches around the error
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Doc gives up a single and a runner reached on E5
but three fly balls (!) result in a scoreless inning.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Hill singles
to lead things off. He sure is seeing the ball well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Adams
grounds out to end the inning. A rare AB against a lefty
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Hill leadoff single is all for the second
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless Doc struggles mightily
I'm not sure anything that happens will have much effect on the WPA, which makes it a little silly to give play by play.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

afraid you're right
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jays
not exactly making things easy for Doc with crappy defense. Mac unnecessarily rushed that throw.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

After 2 outs, O's load them but score none
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

good time
for Doc's first ground-ball out of the game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jays retired in order in the 3rd
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

why is doc back out
for the 8th, he's at 108 pitches and the Jays have a five run lead. this is just silly, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Because that's what Gibbons does.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to love the optimism of the O's broadcast
talking about holding the Jays down and giving themselves a chance in the 9th. That said, some poor D made this game way closer than it had any right to be.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the Angelos rule, right?
Where the broadcasters can't be negative about the O's in any way?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would never know
from listening to Thorne and Palmer that the O's are a perenially sub-.500 team. the way they talk, you'd think Corey Patterson and Kevin Millar were leading them to championship after championship
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 26, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winning ugly
Downs (.115) and Stairs (.108) seem like obvious JotD choices, but most of the offense contributed something (otherwise you don't put up an 8-spot).
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and we're officially not a losing team
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Sep 26, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

winning team?
we can take some pride in that honestly

by bluejayleaffan on Sep 27, 2007 4:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Lind
He's playing good but I would like to see him stop getting himself out by swinging at borderline pitches early in the count.

He's go great hands and bat speed but he is going to have to start laying off pitches JUST off the plate and pitches above the letters especially early in the counts where he shouldn't be fighting pitches.

www.bluejayfever.com New Jays Site/Forum

by Rios39 on Sep 27, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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