Halladay Finishes Second in Cy Young Vote

by Tom Dakers on Nov 13, 2008 5:56 PM EST Comment 2 comments

Cliff Lee got the Cy Young but at least Doc finished second. Lee received 132 points with 24 first place votes and 4 second. Doc had 4 firsts, 15 seconds and 6 third place votes. And yeah if you add them up, there were 4 BWAA voters that didn't think Doc was one of the three best pitchers in the AL. Those people's newspapers should fire them. obviously they know nothing about baseball.

KRod finished third with 32 points (7 second place votes). DiceK, Mariano Rivera, Mussina and Ervin Santana also received votes.

Yeah we knew Lee would win but it bugs me, again, that some voters were stupid enough to leave Doc off the list. Even being dumb enough to vote KRod second, for reasons that escape me, wouldn't you think they could at least put Doc third? I guess no one has claimed the writers are bright. In the NL a non-rookie got votes. If you can't at least make sure the one you are voting for is eligible for the award shouldn't you lose the right to vote?

I still think Doc was the best pitcher this season but I know that the writers most voters just look to see who had the most wins and put a check mark there. It is a sad world.

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no kidding

even I was smart enough to double check whether Shin-Soo Choo was eligible for ROY (turns out he was like 15 at-bats over the limit) before voting for him (he would’ve been 3rd on my ballot).

Congrats to Lee, anyway, not his fault that some writers were too dumb to at least have Doc second. The latest reason to favor Doc I found – the average batter he faced this season (2nd toughest of any pitcher in MLB) had an OPS over 35 points higher than Lee. Pretty staggering difference, really.

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by hugo on Nov 13, 2008 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

well, makes sense

AL East: Rays (774 runs), Red Sox (845), Yankees (789) and Orioles (782) = 797.5 runs/team
AL Central: White Sox (811), Twins (829), Royals (691) and Tigers (821) = 788 runs/team

I am actually kind of surprised that the difference is that slight, I did not realize that the White Sox and Twins had offenses that potent. They did each play 163 games, as well.

While I am way too lazy to run actual numbers and look at game logs, I will note that the AL Central (not including Cleveland)’s collective Win% was .5015, whereas the AL East (excluding Toronto)’s was .539. This leads me to believe that the Central would have more batting innings (due to teams that are ahead after 8 1/2 not batting).

This of course has been beaten to death a whole number of times, but here is a much better argument than the one I presented (as it is way more specific regarding opposing pitchers and offenses).

http://www.boyofsummer.net/2008/09/roy-halladay-is-better-than-cliff-lee.html

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by jessef on Nov 13, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs