Don't You Think That I Know That Walking On Water Don't Make Me a Miracle Man?

So, non Hall-of-Famer Bob Elliott has an article in today's Sun entited "Gaston Writes Off '09" I know the writers don't usually come up with the headlines, but my guess is that's not exactly what Cito's interview at yesterday's winter meetings was intended to convey. That said, it's certainly true that Cito was less than rosy about the 2009 Jays:
"We're not moving backward, we're moving forward, we'll have a good team in 2010 and for a long time." "We'll have Shaun Marcum back (in 2010) and we'll have Dustin McGowan back in May or June this year and we have some good kids like Travis Snider and Adam Lind. But right now ... today ... we have three starters." "I'm looking forward to the season because it's going to be a challenge. We have a chance to be thorns in the side of other teams."
Wait, what about 2009? Are we really just writing it off as a "chance to be thorns in the side of other teams?" Sounds like Cito told a classic Kinsley gaffe, named for American political writer MIchael Kinsley, who described it as when a politician accidentally tells the truth.
I'm glad Cito thinks we're going to be good in 2010. I agree. But what about this season? Is it so unbelievable that the Jays might contend? Just because the Yankees signed Sabathia? And have the high offer out on Burnett? And sill want to ink Lowe after signing A.J.? And are also pursuing Sheets? And are in the process of trading the terrible Melky Cabrera for the very good Mike Cameron? And got Nick Swisher for spare parts? Ok, now I'm getting depressed. No doubt, it is tough to compete with teams who have the financial ability to pay multiple marquis free agents when the Jays cannot even muster up the dough for one, despite huge holes that could be well addressed by signings. But for whatever reason, perhaps delusion, perhaps not, I refuse to count the Jays out yet.
Perhaps, as the Drunks suggest, Cito's statement can be seen as a way of taking pressure off the young players this year as they develop. I am excited to see a full year of some of our young Jays. Or maybe the Jays will still make a few waves that convince the fans, once again, that their beloved azure corvids are contenders. Either way, I continue to believe that this season will be an interesting and fun one to watch. If the Jays are truly writing off the year, it's hard to imagine how Ricciardi will possibly return, though he has defied death before.
Thanks to the great songwriter Elvis Costello for supplying today's title.
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The bit that interested me was
Cito saying he’d try Hill at Short during spring training then JP saying no, no Hill will only play second. I’m not sure either of them have talked to Hill about this but Cito seems like the type that would put his arm around Hill shoulders and say ‘you know you could be the best SS in the league, why not take a few balls there today’. Then Inglett and Scoot could platoon at second and we’d have a leadoff hitter.
Yeah I know, not likely to happen.
by Tom Dakers on Dec 11, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I should've pointed that out, yeah
that was an interesting little bit. I have to say, it might resolve the leadoff situation, but there’s no guarantee that Inglett will be as efficient reaching base as he was last season.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Dec 11, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We still have a lot more internal options for second than short
(who doesn’t?) so even if Inglett doesn’t stick it’s not a disaster.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Dec 11, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
I don’t see why JP is so against it. it is not like Hill never played short. He came up as a shortstop. It would help the team. Why not try it, if it doesn’t work out he can go back
by Tom Dakers on Dec 11, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely agree with that
it just means we don’t necessarily have a leadoff hitter, though if Campbell is the fallback, we still might.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Dec 11, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leadoff???
Scoot/Inglett platoon and leadoff hitter?!?! Can we say hello to last place?
I don’t want to be negative but I tend to side with Cito here…playing for 2010 isn’t a bad idea. Finishing last in the East is quite possible with Baltimore adding phenom Matt Weiters to their lineup and potentially adding Teixeira too…at least it gives the Jays a chance to evaluate youngsters give Hill a chance at SS again and to get better picks to keep building a farm system.
As for Hill at SS…He’s been average at best playing SS in the past and he’s been quite above average at 2B, as has been mentioned here Scutaro was above average at SS last year and McDonald is always above average at SS…if we’re having the same players in the offence either way isn’t it better to maximize the defense and play Hill at 2B and Scutaro/McDonald at SS? Only way I’d agree to having Hill move to SS would be to allow for someone new to come in to play 2B
by bunner on Dec 12, 2008 7:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we do have Campbell coming up through the system
if he’s good enough defensively to play an average second base, he has been a pretty solid hitter in the minors, with good contact skills and excellent plate discipline. He won’t be an all-star, but he could get on base enough to hit leadoff, if we have no money to acquire a leadoff hitter he might be our best internal bet. If he’s going to be ready to contribute next season, if not later this season, it might be good to see what Hill has at short. I know Hill is hesitant about moving, but it really would be a good thing for his career as well – a SS stands to make as much as 4-5 times as much as a comparable hitting second baseman on the free agent market, even an average defending SS.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Dec 12, 2008 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weiters isn't goign to fix Baltimore's pitching problems by himself
They had a good offense last year and it didn’t do them any good.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Dec 12, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess not understanding the Orioles could be a full time job.....
but if you were them wouldn’t you take the money you are offering Teixeira and instead sign a couple of starting pitchers?
by Tom Dakers on Dec 12, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't actually
because I don’t think you sign a pitcher for as long of a deal as it is going to take for the O’s to get good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Dec 12, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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