I Feel Allright, It's a Minnesota Night / You've Got Nothing Left to Show Me But Your Smile - Game 42, Jays at Twins
by hugo on May 14, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Toronto Blue Jays at Minnesota Twins, May 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
Yesterday was one of the more enjoyable games I can remember the Jays playing in quite some time. Litsch pitched well (I would've left him in a little longer, frankly), Rolen had a 15 pitch at-bat that paid off when Stairs took Slowey deep on the next at-bat and sent him out of the game, Lyle crushed a double into the left-centerfield gap to plate a run, Hill looked good at the plate, and Stewart had some good at-bats as well. Rolen also looked great in the field, and Downs and Frasor combined for some very fine bullpen work.
Tonight's game has oversized importance, being that it's game 42 and 42 is the answer to the question of the life, the universe, and everything. Throw in the fact that it's Doc's birthday, and everything is starting to come into focus. Doc is now 3-5 and that's just a little silly - I mean, the guy's got a 47/10 K/BB ratio and a 1.03 WHIP. Let's hope the Jays can continue to find enough offense and the good doctor can strike a little luck on the day of his birth. Happy Birthday, Doc, and many more!
Boof Bonser pitches for the Twins. Bonser has been decent for the Twins this season, but has had two rough outings in a row so the Jays aren't getting him at a bad time. I'm looking forward to the game tonight, and it's been a good day. On my walk home from the subway after work I happened upon a runaway dog, who began to follow us. I made a makeshift leash out of one of the straps on my daughter's stroller, and while walking the little guy around, we happened upon the owner, who was near tears. It was a very happy ending, and consequently I'm in quite a good mood despite an exhausting day of work. Don't ruin it, Jays!
For some minor news, Jesse Litsch volunteered to start Friday's game on only two days rest since he only threw 71 pitches yesterday. Gotta love the kid's enthusiasm, but I expect it will be Purcey who starts Friday against one of the NL's best offenses, which should be interesting. In addition, both Eckstein and Mac have rejoined the team and are doing some light hitting. Gibbons is hopeful that both will be ready to come off the DL when eligible one week from today
I almost forgot, today's title generously provided by Boston band the Push Stars, who were a bit of a big deal when I was in college a few years back.
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Pregame WPA report
The only Jays hitters with positive wins added this season are Overbay (0.09), Rolen (0.03), and Thomas (0.02), with Buck Coats at exactly neutral. Unless someone hits a multi-run homer to cap an unlikely comeback, Zaun (-0.08) is the best bet to get his head above water first.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting
WPA can be a bit misleading when used in a vacuum, but for the 2008 it pretty much tells the whole story
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a question....
Which guy do you think are not going to get above 0?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mench and Wilkerson may not be around long enough.
(Stewart as well, for that matter.)
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stairs has a long way to go....
but has been hot the last couple of days
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't see Barajas getting above 0
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, no way
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling
Mench might stick around, since Stairs is a bit old and the Jays probably see him as not a full-timer.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRAA also helps
50 runes below average on offense.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and it's board game night again
so I’ll probably be leaving at 6:30ish Pacific time, which with Doc on the mound should be the 6th inning or so.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilkerson with the not-much-of-a-single
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hill singles him to third
good start for our heroic corvidae
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a nice hit for hill....
he looked so awful last week….nice to see him swing well
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rios with a chance to get himself out of the basement
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he strikes out looking
weird call, I didn’t like it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geeze takes 30 seconds for the strike call....
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it did stop Rios from hitting into a double play though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is sure pulling off the pitch lately....course hill turned it around suddenly...he can too
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
what was a drag though was how Rios showed so much better patience at the beginning of the season and then it totally disappeared when he started slumping. If he took some more walks, the slumps wouldn’t be as brutal since he’d still be getting on base and he could swipe some bags as well.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pressing with the rest of the team....
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
if he was walking like Lyle was when he was slumping, though, he would’ve scored some runs, since he was batting high in the order and Lyle was before the dregs
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon Rolen
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does Rolen get paid by the pitch faced?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Dickens of baseball
great at-bat
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll remind you that this is the exact part of the season
where Stairs got red hot last year, homering in all three games against the Phillies.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stairs!!!!!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Might Stairs
be the first to get to positive WPA?
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First inning runs can't get you much
especially breaking a tie vs. coming from behind.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except our undying admiration
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Case in point: that homer was 22% of a win
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Doc pitches the way he can should be 50% of a win
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can get a little more than 28%
because we’re guaranteed to make 27 outs over the course of the game, which are all going to be a slight negative now, compared to the larger negative they would be in a tied game.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
w00t!!!!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time we had a lead in the first inning?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stew with another hard hit ball
right at somebody.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how "Happy Birthday" is on the FSN scouting report
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who's birthday? got sportsnet here
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doc's!
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Sportsnet hasn't said anything?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he actually almost got a glove on it
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morneau homer? Game o... wait, we're still winning?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cuddyer with the Minnesota Chop
They do it more than Baltimore now anyways.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this isn't going well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Doc have his cake before the game?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's had a bad inning in each of his last couple of starts right?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But it usually comes later in the game
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny that you say that
last I checked, is one of the few pitchers in the majors to consistently have success with pitches 75-100. But anecdotally, I agree with you.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, with our offense he's usually losing after the bad inning
and doesn’t stick around.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think anything's wrong with him do you?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before Morneau hit it out
Doc hadn’t given up a HR since his second start of the season, against Boston. That’s a pretty good run that had to end sometime
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah just seems like he's had a bad inning each game of late, not very Doc like
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's definitely not like him to give back a lead
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That delayed strike call
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilkerson draws the walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well it was a bunch of curveballs in the dirt
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday had it as two fastballs as the last two, but I thought they were curves too
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure looked like it to me
particularly the last one
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great, another foul ball off Zaun's throwing hand
Doesn’t look like he broke it this year.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc strikes out the side
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny that Blyleven and Morris are in the booth together on the FSN feed
One of these guys should be in Cooperstown, and the other probably will be.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
I definitely support Blyleven’s bid.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me....Bly was never the best pitcher in the league....
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he better for longer than Morris
but gets forgotten because he pitched for worse teams, and didn’t have one great game among an otherwise unremarkable postseason career?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's my memory of Morris...but I thought of him as a winner, the number one starter...
Bly seemed like the number 2 guy most of the time….
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bly had 300 wins he'd be automatic
and he’s in the high 200s somewhere with a ton of hard luck losses.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
incidentally
Blyleven had better postseason numbers than Morris, though not as many starts. it’s hard to compare their careers and not conclude that Bert is way ahead, without cherry picking the postseason stats. But it’s interesting nonetheless.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morris isn't in yet is he....I'd have him in.....
Blyleven, is a tougher call for me.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Morris isn't a terrible pick for the hall
despite a very underwhelming career 105 ERA+. He has a number of HOF players in his comparables, and his career numbers got dragged down by two awful seasons at the end. But Bly is the better bet. He had 6 seasons over 140 ERA+ (2 over 150). Morris’ career high was 126. It’s not close between the two, in my mind.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Morris' high was 133, sorry about that.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Bert had 7 seasons better than Morris' best
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually he had 6 seasons better than Morris' best
and 5 at 140 ERA+ or better, and Morris had none. sorry, it’s been a long day!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's my memory...I always thought of morris as the big game guy....
Bly I thought of as someone that pitched good and forever but if I needed to win one game it I’d take Morris
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morris trades a lot on his big game performances
Particularly his 10 inning CG in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series. His reputation for clutchness tends to obscure his good, but probably not quite Hall-worthy numbers. If not for that reputation, he wouldn’t get nearly the consideration or hype that he gets now. And this is coming from a guy who has often argued in favour of Morris’ candidacy.
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be interesting to see
what support there is for the proposition that guys like Morris pitch well enough to win so you can’t measure them purely by ERA. I haven’t seen any proof of something like that, though it doesn’t seem impossible.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the HOF voters definitely agree, by and large
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bly won 34 more games but lost 74 more.....
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we know wins and losses are the only measure
Like I said, he had a ton of hard luck losses.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the hall....it's a big part of it...and I'm a big believer in wins and losses aren't important....
but the hall is a little different…
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what it's worth
both Blyleven and Morris rate on Baseball Reference’s Hall of Fame monitor. Blyleven is at 120.5 (likely HOFer is > 100). Morris is even higher at 122.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen sees another 8 pitches
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there goes the lead....
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well tied up now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and when was the last time we scored in multiple innings in a game
Oh wait, last night…
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that's two hard hit balls right at the third baseman tonight?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm Tabler is talking about the hall of fame thing now......
Course he blew the agruement right away by saying Bly’s numbers rank with everyone anyone in the hall of fame….ummmmmm no tab….
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They got to my agruement...Morris was the best pitcher of the 80's
Bly was one of the 10 best of the 70’s and 10 best of the 80’s
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if Jesus was born 4 years sooner
Morris wouldn’t be in the hall?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think things like that have something to do with the hall.....you want guys that were the best...not guys that were the 5 th best
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean you could talk me into both....but I put Morris there first....
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Course I want Andre Dawson and Tim Raines...
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right there with you with Raines
I think he’s a great choice for the hall
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blyleven is 5th on the all-time strikeout list
and 9th all-time in shutouts. That and a career 3.31 ERA is pretty good to me.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'd give in on him....but then he had a ton of .500 or sub .500 years....
One of Bill James questions is ‘was he ever thought of as the best in the league at his posistion’....Bly? not that much.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
at some point though it has to yield to the realization that someone has just had an incredible career. I don’t oppose Morris’ candidacy, by the way. I just think Blyleven has the leg up.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know when the colour commentators talk about having a comfortable 0 for 4?
Blyleven was a comfortable 275 (or however many) game winner.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's true...I guess I'd think when they played everyone thought Morris was a Hall of Famer
I don’t think that many thought of Bly as one when he played. Just looked at ‘Politics of Glory’ by James, he thought Morris would go in and didn’t think Bly would.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just to add one more....
Bly got MVP votes twice, and Cy Young votes 4 times (as high as 3rd twice) and made two all star teams.
Morris got MVP votes 5 times and Cy Young votes 6 times and all star team 5 times.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scoot with the 2 out hit
putting us in RISP time for Wilk
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this
A 2-out rally? I never thought I’d see the day
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you miss yesterday's game?
I think 4 of our 5 were with 2 outs.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did miss last night's game
I have an exam on Friday, so I’m mostly holed up in the library
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man
I don’t miss those days. I occasionally think about going back to school for Medicine, but mostly I plan to abide by my promise that the Bar Exam is the last test I’ll ever take
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in my second year of medical school
so I have many, many years of exams still ahead of me. Probably not a bad promise to make to yourself, though medicine is great if that’s what you want and are willing to spend many more years as a trainee.
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Law so far
3 years out of law school, but trying cases can be a grind and medicine has intrigued me for a while. it feels a little late for me to go back to med school, though, now that I have a 1-year old.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
any idea yet as to what specialty you're interested in?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some
Right now the most definite I can be is “probably not surgery.” I think it will take a fantastic experience in my surgery clerkship rotation next year to change my mind. My top two choices right now are probably radiation oncology and internal medicine (possibly with an eye towards nephrology, oncology or cardiology), but there are a few other choices that I’m also considering (family, anaesthesia and radiology the most prominent).
Basically, this is a long-winded way of saying that I mostly don’t know and will try to make some decisions next year when I get some clinical experience.
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very cool
good luck, by the way!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I don’t know where you grew up/went to school, so you might already know this, but Canadian medical schools mostly operate on pass/fail systems (a couple have pass/fail/honours, but these are a dying breed). It makes for fairly low-stress exams, but I still need to know the material even if marks don’t matter.
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
being a Yank I didn’t know that.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you end up a Jays fan?
You said you were from Brooklyn, right?
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep born and raised
I can’t really explain it, but it started as just a way to root against the Yankees and Red Sox! I didn’t really become a fan until after the two world series’, but it didn’t take long to become a diehard. I still root for the Mets in the NL and go to games when I get back to NY, but they’re a secondary team for me now.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good reason
I fully support any anti-Yankees and Red Sox sentiment.
I think you mentioned this before, but where are you living now?
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington DC
you?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
London is on that little piece of Ontario
that connects upstate NY with Detroit, right? on the north shore of lake erie?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
It’s more or less equidistant from Detroit, Buffalo and Toronto and between Lake Erie and Lake Huron
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like DC
it’s a good place with a ton to do. Had some trouble with crime last year, but we moved to a new neighborhood and that’s made a big difference. too hot though.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is one guy in the class ahead of me who has a law degree and is now doing medicine. Also, one guy in my class just had a kid (well, not him, his wife) so he commutes back and forth pretty regularly (about a 1.5 hour drive). It’s definitely doable, but if I were in your shoes I’m pretty certain I would make the same decision.
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 for 3
Wilk with the clutchiness!
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 for 4 after the Hill popup
and we won’t get to see if Rios could break out of his slump with the bases loaded and 2 outs.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So it's funny that Gibby was so quick to use the bullpen last night
because he figured Halladay would pitch deep.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc is having a weird day
he looks like a totally different pitcher than usual
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's still getting the strikeouts
like he did last start, and unlike his usual pattern.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's been striking out a lot more this season in general
mostly it seems like he’s using his curve a little more than he did last season.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, we have the lead again
and Doc pitched a shutdown inning. I’m off to game night. (Actually dinner first.) Hold down the fort for me.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
will do, enjoy
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doc only at 84 pitches
despite everything, he could still easily go 7
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolen got caught on that one
it was a tough play
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc strands 2
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Third time
Hard hit ball gobbled by Lamb at 3B
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
close play at 1st there
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too
Though I tend to think that anytime a Jay is on the dirt when the throw comes
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh Scooter
if you’re going to throw like that, don’t throw
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice play Doc!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlson in to face Mauer
hope he does better than he did yesterday against Morneau
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cy gets Mauer
nice work, JC!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets leave him in....he doesn't need to be a LOOGY
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what I like about our lefties
they can actually get righties
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah all three can....hope Gibby keeps him in....rather Cy than Camp or god forbid Ben
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
please no more Benitez
I know I’m not rational when it comes to that guy, but he looked super-shaky to me yesterday
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rios has had a couple of better swings tonight...
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
solid hit by Rolen
another run would sure be nice
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
But it sure made up for the three great plays Lamb has made tonight
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen is supposed to be a great baserunner
huge mistake there, but it worked out.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lyle walks
don’t let the dream die, stew
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quick ground out
but that run could be huge
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surely Cy
will stay in at least for Morneau. Hope there’s no repeat of last night
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Camp coming in....I'm not a fan of his either...but better than ben...
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
isn't it time to bring up League?
or promote Frasor to 8th inning guy? I don’t buy Camp or Benitez at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
just as I say that, Camp strikes out Cuddyer easily
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather use Frasor here...but....camp does look good. Can't get past that 7.10 from last year.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what's up with Wolfe?
he’s been out for a while now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read that he was just starting to throw now.
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's good news then
I’m a fan of his. He throws hard and throws strikes. Not good against the lefties, but we have plenty of lefty options so that shouldn’t be a problem.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as they send Ben down when he comes back...
Though I guess I’m hoping he goes down tomorrow when Pursey gets called up
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crap
tying run to second, Kubel smacked that. it wasn’t even a bad pitch
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but Harris will bat for Lamb
so Gardy got his righty-lefty matchup
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scutaro made me a little nervous there
but got the out. Now if we can just get lamb. Looks like Gibby is going with Wolverine
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice curve by Tallet
good call on the 3-2 pitch with 1st base open!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good question
not Downs, not Ryan. maybe we just leave Tallet in, with Frasor in the wings?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he puts in Benitez I'm getting a beer...
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I bet it'll be Frasor
which would explain why we used Camp instead of him in the 8th, right?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a line of coke.....
just a joke….
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he only threw 4 or 5 pitches yesterday
but 3 days in a row is a lot anyway
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shows how much he doesn't like Frasor
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Frasor start the inning
and have Downs in reserve if it goes back to Mauer and Morneau
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cmon Downs
throw some strikes!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mench is in in Left?
I don’t like Stew but Mench is barely a fielder right?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is crazy
how bad must they think Stew is. Mench certainly isn’t much of a fielder
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamie said something about a better arm but if you have zero range who cares about the arm
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in left field with a lefty pitching against righties?
you want the range over the arm, right?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Stew is a bad fielder but he's better
But mench….is like a statue..
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Downs gets Monroe
without too much trouble. 2 to go!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Downs gets Gomez to ground out 3-2
1 to go!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice running grab by Wilkerson
Jays win!!!
by SuckaMD on May 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilkerson
with the running catch, and the Jays win!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
w00t!
ever closer to .500
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jays of the Day
Downs (hopefully he has earned a day off!), Tallet, Stairs, Wilkerson, Rolen. Honourable mention to Doc, who actually finished with decent WPA. Quality game!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Gibby did well....though that defensive replacement needs to be explained...
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Waxing Gibbons for the night, though that last move was strange
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on May 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even think he should be fired tonight....
And that’s the first time in awhile….
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they send Ben down for Pursey right?
by Tom Dakers on May 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can Ben refuse the assignment? And also, can he be claimed off waivers?
I ask like we should care.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on May 15, 2008 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine he could refuse the assignment and/or be claimed off waivers.
I can’t imagine anyone claiming him, but I guess I could imagine him saying no and having to be released. I guess the question is would JP care. I’m not sure what Camp’s status would be if they wanted to send him down.
by Tom Dakers on May 15, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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