I'll Show You How Smart I Am - Game 46, Jays at Phillies
by hugo
on May 18, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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Toronto Blue Jays @ Philadelphia Phillies
Today's post is brought our way by a wonderful little Randy Newman song from Sail Away called "Memo To My Son". It seemed appropriate given Rod Barajas' sweet sweet revenge yesterday. Barajas was booed endlessly when with Philadelphia last season. Not that they don't boo everyone, but in the games I went to/watched it was quite mean-spirited with respect to Barajas. Anyway, after Barajas pounded a grand slam in the first inning yesterday and followed up with a solo shot later, it will be interesting to see whether he gets the start today even though it's a day game after a night game and there's a righty on the mound. Yesterday's game featured a nice start from A.J. Burnett, who evened his record to 4-4 with a 6 1/3 inning, 8 K performance. A.J. walked three. Armando Benitez, on the other hand, followed up his strong performance a few days ago with another shaky performance. Benitez walked pinch-hitter Shane Victorino and then surrendered a double to Jimmy Rollins. Rollins took third when the ball got by Barajas, but Benitez struck out Jason Werth. Scott Downs came in and struck Chase Utley with the pitch. Gibbons was ejected arguing that Utley swung at the pitch (which it looked like to me, though I would not expect to get that call either) but Ryan Howard flew out and the threat was over. Downs followed it up with a nice 8th and Ryan closed it out without too much drama in the 9th. Barajas provided most of the offense but Marco Scutaro and Scott Rolen each reached base safely 3 times. I know people don't love Scutaro, but for my money he's done a great job filling in at Short. He's a third-string SS who can hit a little bit (.313/.377/.396 in May, which roughly corresponds to when Eckstsein and MacDonald went down, and getting on base at a .362 clip this season) and doesn't embarass himself in the field (1 error so far this season from SS, though he had his ups and downs at 3rd base when Rolen was out). Not someone you want starting, but not someone who is bad to have around, if you're like the Jays and you really don't have anyone in the high minors who is capable of filling in at infield positions on an everyday basis (Inglett's not a terrible hitter either, but is no shortstop).
Anyway, back to today's game - Shaun Marcum has been lights out this season and will get the start. Of course Marcum's been fortunate with respect to balls in play (his .184 BABIP this season can't be expected to continue) and with baserunners (most pitchers can't leave 80% of their runners on base) but striking out 49 and walking 16 over his 56 2/3 innings this season suggests that he's going to be just fine. One interesting thing is that Marcum is getting a ton more grounders this season (46.4 GB% to last season's 40.2%) which is great and has been part of why his home run rate this season is basically half of what it was last year.
I'm looking forward to today's game, which I'll definitely be watching, and hoping that the Philadelphia weather cooperates, since it has been rather rainy here in nearly Washington D.C.
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Does his grounder rate explain his BABIP?
I mean, the BABIP on grounders has to be less than fly balls (and obviously line drives), if for no other reason than that you can’t hit a ground ball homer.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
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Also, the Bannister test
What’s his rate for getting 0-2 counts on batters?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
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Does the HR count against your BABIP?
It makes sense that it would, but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that it’s not factored in. I think groundballs are actually slightly more likely to result in hits than outfield flies (and obviously much more likely to turn into hits than infield flies).
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
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yep
according to the THT glossary, Home Runs aren’t factored into BABIP
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
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Ah, good point
but it’s the line drive rate that will be most telling, since I think 70% of line drives turn into hits.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
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true
I think studies have shown though that for the most part, preventing line drives isn’t a repeatable skill for most major league pitchers as compared to other major league pitchers. FWIW, Marcum’s line drive rate hasn’t been extraordinarily low or anything (14.6% after 17.7% last season)
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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Wouldn't that be ~20 points of BABIP, though?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
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that's probably about right, yep
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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and now that the lineups are in
Barajas is indeed starting. Lyle gets the offday.
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
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I'm looking forward to watching Marcum bat today
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
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I remember one interleague game last year
Must have been against the Phillies, where the announcers said that Marcum was the first pitcher they’d seen who stepped into the batter’s box looking like he wanted to be there.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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Jays down in order
Wilk saw a few pitches, at least.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
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no way Rios
doesn’t catch that hit by Rollins, right?
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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I know Wilkerson's costing us the minimum
but what do you think Kenny Lofton would cost?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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Probably not too much more
But would he really be that much better? A Jays lineup with Lofton replacing Wilk would still struggle mightily to score.
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May 18, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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His OBP would be way better leading off
and you have to figure the D would be better. Of course it’s aggravated today by Stairs having to play right to get him in the lineup.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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Lofton might be better
but I wouldn’t want to see the team go for another past-his-prime guy before giving Lind another shot. Lofton might be better, but I doubt he’s the answer
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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Not sure that Lind is the answer for leadoff
even ignoring his 1 for 19.
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May 18, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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right I wouldn't bat him leadoff
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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Also, is Lind's arm suddenly good enough for right field?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
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nice pitch to get Utley swinging
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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that sucked
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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Went back to the well once too often
with the changeup.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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A walk to Burrell?
Un-Marcum-like.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
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it's pouring here
not sure what it’s like in Philly, but I can’t imagine this game is going to go forward without at least a delay
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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Looks like it's coming down pretty hard
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May 18, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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and the tarp is out
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May 18, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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Rain delay
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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If the game gets cancelled
That would require a one-day makeup game taking away an off-day later in the season, would it not? That might be costly if the Jays find still themselves in striking distance at the end of the summer (admittedly a huge if, but still)
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May 18, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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the Jays are off tomorrow, right?
if the Phillies are also off, that’d work out
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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Phils play Nats tomorrow.
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May 18, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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ah
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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Next common off day is June 23rd
Phils are at home against LAA the previous day while Jays are in PIT. Phils would be heading to Oakland for their following series, though, so that’s a tough off day to lose. (Not as bad as losing the one coming back, of course.)
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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it's stopped raining here, for whatever that's worth
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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You have to figure, even if they do start up again
that Marcum’s not coming back out after a 90+ minute delay, right?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
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I would hope not
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May 18, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
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a little irritating that they started the game
when it was already raining, just to play one inning
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May 18, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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So would Marcum be able to go on Tuesday, is the question
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May 18, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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I'd think so
he only threw 22 pitches
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May 18, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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But then how does the rotation shake out?
If Litsch was going to have his day skipped for the off day tomorrow, do you have him pitch Wednesday and give everyone extra days off? (Extra days off do tend to make starters more effective.)
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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I guess it also depends on if we'd have to use a starter to finish the game today
then Litsch could take his spot in the rotation
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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On short rest?
I might do it for an inning or two, but it’s really early in the game to be going to starters.
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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stupid to start the game
under these conditions.
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by jessef on
May 18, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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And after a delay this long, why not just call it?
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May 18, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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good thing
I’ve got tons of work to do while I wait for the game to start back up
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May 18, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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I agree
but it’s not like we have a long man in the bullpen, so we might need to do it. Tallet pitched 3 innings in Purcey’s start, on friday so he’s likely unavailable. Camp, Carlson, and Frasor could give us 7 or 8 innings potentially, but it’s no sure thing.
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May 18, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
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the sun is out here now
so I’d imagine the game will be starting up pretty soon
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May 18, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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it's so interesting
that all these announcers feel like the interleague games favor the national league teams (i’m watching the Nats-Os game during the delay). That seems so counterintuitive to me
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May 18, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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Durbin now in for Phila
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May 18, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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quickly puts the Jays down
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May 18, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Camp in for the Jays
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May 18, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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quick inning for Camp
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May 18, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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You figure Camp's one and done?
Two righties and a pitcher at the bottom of the order. A bunch of lefties due up; I’d figure we’d see a few innings of Carlson.
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May 18, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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I'm guessing
Gibby sends Camp out again. Perhaps he should’ve used Carlson for this past inning, then he could have kept him in through Utley and Howard.
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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But you could have had Carlson against them either way
This isn’t a lineup where you can get a bunch of righties in a row anywhere except the bottom, so if you were going to use a righty specialist like Camp that was the time to do it.
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May 18, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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that's true
I just don’t think Gibby will risk pulling Camp after just the one inning with so much game left to go
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May 18, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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Didn't realize the game was back on....is Zaun hurt....Barajas starting again, or just hoping he's hot?
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May 18, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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I think just hoping he's hot
He does have a 7 game hitting streak going.
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May 18, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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Scoot draws the walk
Looks like Camp is going to hit for himself.
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May 18, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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he bunts Scoot over
with two strikes
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Sports net doesn't know the game is on....have a little feature on Babe Ruth.....
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May 18, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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It's only on Sportsnet East
The rest are showing the Memorial Cup starting at 4:30
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May 18, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
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I thought for sure that was a hit
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Just like every time we line out at someone?
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by Torgen on
May 18, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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He's going to ahve to get some hits soon.....how long will the Jays keep using him if he doesn't?
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May 18, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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he's already gotten a lot more plate appearances than Lind got
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May 18, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
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And he's 6 for 32 with 2 walks
which is way better than Lind was, even if it’s not great
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May 18, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Well
he has a .423 OPS (lower after his two at-bats today) for Toronto so theoretically we should be hoping to do a bit better
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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This is why I brought up Kenny Lofton
Because with Wells down, you need someone who can play right.
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May 18, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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has Loften played much right?
I can’t say I remember him ever playing there.
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May 18, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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He's played center
If you’re worried about him making the transition, you could always move Rios back to right.
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May 18, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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you could
but depending on how much Loften has declined defensively, the defense might be better off with Rios in Center and our DH platoon in right and Lind in left than with Stewart in left, Lofton in center, and Rios in right
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May 18, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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very nice play by Hill
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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Camp does a good job working through a lefty heavy part fo the lineup
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May 18, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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You think we can get a hit today?
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May 18, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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I'm doubting it
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Camp better get a double play ball off Ruiz
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May 18, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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I'd have settled for not that
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May 18, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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Nope, a double
Game over.
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May 18, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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And walking Rollins to face Werth
I predict this will end in tears.
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May 18, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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No tears this time
Well, except for that third run that we can ill-afford to allow.
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May 18, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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Barajas
doubles to break up the no-no. Too bad there are two outs, but maybe we can start something here
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May 18, 2008 5:03 PM EDT
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cmon Scooter
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May 18, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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Lyle in the on-deck circle
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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cmon Lyle
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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Lyle!!!!!!!
smoked that one. w00t!!!
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by hugo on
May 18, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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game day just made a mistake....says homerun
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May 18, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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.286 WPA on that one
Just a guess, but I think Overbay will be a JotD.
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May 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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who will come in to pitch....if it's ben I'm leaving....
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May 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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Utley and Howard are coming up, right?
so it’ll be JC I’m guessing
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May 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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Tallet was warming
or at least the Phillies guys said it was Tallet. They’ve been wrong before.
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May 18, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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not this time
Tallet is in. I’d guess just for the inning, since he threw 3 on Friday night
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May 18, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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right, it was just two innings, sorry about that
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May 18, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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Jesus? hmmmm.....guess Cy.....but christ should pitch for us
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we had a friend of his family who posted on the blog
who said that was his nickname growing up
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Carlson's family, not Jesus', btw
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Howard hits a single off the end of the bat
on a total pitcher’s pitch
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let's be careful with Burrell
he destroys lefties
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A couple of flares in a row
Seems like we haven’t turned a double play in a while
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that didn't work out
bases loaded now
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Bases loaded on nothing hard hit
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and that's it for Tallet
he didn’t really do anything wrong at all
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In comes Frasor
who i don’t think is great at stranding inherited runners.
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Still a better option than Benitez
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Frasor gets Ruiz to pop up
two down now
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Would have preferred a double play ball
but I’ll take the pop up
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that pitch was quite close
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Frasor gets the weak bouncer
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Strands them loaded on 9 fastballs and 1 slider
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Yay he got out of it......hope he'll earn some confidence from Gibby
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Considering he's competing with Benitez
it shouldn’t be that hard to get.
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May 18, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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Hope we get 4 more innings of pitching in the pen.....
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I hope we only need exactly 4 more.
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well theoretically
we should get 3 from Frasor, Downs, and Ryan.
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Hill's liner
skips by Burrell and all of a sudden we have the go-ahead run in scoring position with no out
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Rios promptly
pops up and now there’s 1 out
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Walking Stairs to pitch to Stew
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up to Stew
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w00t!
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Big Rod time
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Bau-chicka-bau-bau!
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no problem for Lyle on the grounder
1 down
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Thing that sucks about the rain delay
you can’t get get lunch in case the game starts again. I’m starving.
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I have a similar sob story
I made a big tray of nachos, which were ready right as the delay kicked in. I didn’t want to eat them while the game was delayed, but of course by the time the delay ended, they weren’t any good any more
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Frasor walks Rollins
after getting into a bunch of full counts and getting away with it.
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Phillies guys say yes
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Frasor-Werth showdown
a bit eerie
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Frasor wins
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Gibbons
showing his tactical side with the double switch
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Didn't he manage a long time for the Mets' AAA team?
So he would have had plenty of chances to brush up on NL managing.
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yes indeed
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May 18, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
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Tampa lost, Boston won
so the Sox are atop the division.
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do we think the Rays are for real?
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May 18, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
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Sounds like thunderstorms are coming in
Maybe they’ll call it after this inning and we won’t need to get more innings from our pen.
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Assuming we're still winning
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no sure thing at this point
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Carlson is 2nd in AL in appearances
According to Pat/Jamie. Is this a good thing in his first season, especially since he hasn’t even been with the club all season?
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May 18, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
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yeah I think he's pitched way too much but.....hard to stop using him when he's been so good....
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Howard is a strikeout candidate
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Understatement of the year
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Jesse
walks Howard. this isn’t good
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If it's called before this inning is done
then our 3 in the top don’t count.
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but it would be a tie, right?
so don’t they have to finish the game right from this point? I can’t remember
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You realize that if they restart
it will be Benitez against Burrell, then he, Downs, and BJ will have to combine for 3 innings.
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May 18, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
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Yeah that's a sad thing....can Litsch pitch couple?
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May 18, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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He went on Friday
for, what, 50 pitches? Maybe he could pitch 1.
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Unless Litsch comes in
because they still have the option of skipping his start
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is he even available?
he threw 49 pitches on Friday night.
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Benitez against Burrell isn't the worst thing
he’s been sort of okay against righties even later in his career, and Burrell pretty much crushes lefties. It’s not ideal, but it could work out
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Doc is in for relief!
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And he gets a popup on a 2-0 pitch!
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Jays down 1-2-3 into the stretch
Phillies guys figure Doc will pitch 2 innings to lead into BJ.
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I sort of doubt it
although if he goes 1-2-3. Utley and Howard wouldn’t bat unil the 9th
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Phillies guys were right, I was wrong
Doc will hit for himself with RISP!
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cmon Doc!
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Doc strikes out Jenkins
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Grounder to third
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Doc makes quick work of the Phillies
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First pitch grounder from Ruiz to end the 7th
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Rios flies out to left
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it seemed like Rios' at-bats were getting better
it doesn’t seem like that anymore
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Rolen flies to right
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Stairs really ripped that
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They're intentionally walking Stew to pitch to Doc
who had an RBI single last year.
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Doc grounds out
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Doc almost beats it out
on a nubber to third
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with a lot of pitchers you worry about them running down the line
but I wasn’t too concerned with Doc
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so I guess Litsch will make a start, right?
to give Doc the extra day of rest
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line drive single for Dobbs
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Snakeface warming
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wow very slick
Lyle and Scooter turn the 3-6-3 on the speedy Rollins
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big play there
now Werth with 2 out and none on
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and Doc gets him
very nice
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Jays go down quickly
and it’s the Beej v. Utley, Howard, and Pat the Bat
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B.J.
was quite fortunate on that called 2nd strike on Utley
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Gameday says it wasn't too bad
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gets Chase to pop up to Scoot
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and gets Howard swinging on a nice outside heater
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Strikes out Howard
2 out!
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Burrell's really making BJ work
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Burrell crushed that
I guess B.J. had to give up runs sometime, and that wasn’t the worst possible situation to do so
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Burrell gets the solo homer
BJ’s first run allowed this season
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Coste hits for Jenkins
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Coste pinch hitting for the lefty Jenkins
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These Phillies fans are complete D-bags
or maybe it’s just the self-selected group who will sit through 6 hours of rain and baseball
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oh no
Coste lashes a double to left, and Brundlett is the winning run
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cmon Beej
get him
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Yes!
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B.J. gets him on the high outside fastball
whew. Great win for the Jays, despite the rain screwing everything up. Jays of the Day, Lyle, Doc, Stew, and Frasor, hon. mention to Ryan and Barajas as well.
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we're .500!
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which is way more exciting than it should be
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Does that mean no more TMBG
or does any loss where we’re under .500 after trigger that?
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I think it's time
for a break from TMBG for a while, now that we’re back to sweet sweet mediocrity
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If .667 for a month is mediocre
then I don’t want to be good. Oh wait, good would be even better.
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After that one
it’s a good thing we have the day off tomorrow.
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