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The Rising Tide: Game 51, Royals at Jays

Kansas City Royals at Toronto Blue Jays, May 24, 2008 1:07 PM EDT




It was great fun to watch a non-nailbiting Jays game yesterday. The Jays got some big hits, and Marco Scutaro, Alexis Rios, Lyle Overbay, and Scott Rolen all had very fine days at the plate. On the other side of the ball, Aaron Hill had a fantastic diving catch and Roy Halladay carved the Royals to pieces, going the distance and allowing only a 1st inning run (on a couple of not particularly well-hit singles up the middle), striking out 5 and walking no one. Doc did not give up an extra base hit (only 4 hits in all) and especially looked strong through the end of the game. Anytime a fella can go 9 innings in 104 pitches, he's doing something very right.

This fine afternoon, the Jays will try to get above .500 for the first time since forever. Matt Stairs is out of the lineup for a 3rd straight game with a stiff neck. This time, Brad Wilkerson will return to right field while Inglett plays left. Jesse Litsch will pitch against #1 draft pick Luke Hochevar, who pitched well against the Jays earlier this season. Let's go Jays!!!!

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FOX blackout

although this game is likely to be over by the time the FOX games even start. It’s Alan and Jerry for me.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Not blacked out on mlb.tv

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra Innings

doesn’t exactly black them out, it just doesn’t carry any Saturday games that start before 7.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zaun

called on to start the day game after the night game. That’s a little strange

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

If Litsch

worked on an out pitch against lefties, he might be able to raise his ceiling.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Like a screwball?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a hell of a strike-em-out throw-em-out

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

boooo

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally pointless

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you're going to assume that Rios won't drive in that runner

why bat him third?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

strategically it was so dumb

that my only guess is that Pevey is still in the mindset of Stewart being a fast runner

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or overcompensating for holding all those runners at third

who didn’t end up scoring.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

with no out?

what the hell?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

0 for 1

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Rolen draws the walk

Overbay with the chance

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Overbay with the infield single

another RISP hit with no run.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice hitting by Overbay.....

good play by Pena to keep the run from scoring

by Tom Dakers on May 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Pena saves the run

on the grounder up the middle

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

now

Wilkerson with the bases loaded

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Or do that

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

What a tease

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just bought himself about 6 straight strikeouts

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

w00t!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

He really went down and got that one

looked like it was around his shins.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

zoned in on the fastball

fastball count, bases loaded, that’s about as sure as it ever gets that you’re going to see a fastball

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's been hitting better lately, though, right?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see Thomas' HR yesterday?

he pretty much crushed it. He’s got 7 now, and Vernon still leads our team with 5

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course the way he was hitting until this week

he probably wouldn’t have been better for us than most of what we were putting out there, and now that he’s hitting we’re winning without him.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

there’s no way to definitively say that we would be even one game better if we had kept Frank, but it’s not as if we’re smoking the ball now (certainly we weren’t against LAAAAA.)

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And bear in mind

that a lot of Franks hits have come in games where the A’s would have won handily without him. Like there was that game a few weeks ago where he got 3 hits, but the team scored 13 runs on 16 hits. You think maybe the opponent’s pitching had more to do with that one? We knew Frank could hit it hard if he guessed right.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs fan from the Bay Area here...

looking forward to visiting your fine city in a couple of weeks.

A quick question: Thomas is now hitting .315 /.415/.506 as a member of the A’s—is the consensus up there that the Jays should have tried to work things out instead of cutting him loose?

by bison on May 26, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting question

it’s no surprise that Thomas has played well with Oakland, most of his numbers were in line with much better performance than he was showing, and his .159 BABIP screamed regression to the mean. the option for next season made it a slightly riskier move, but I don’t understand why the Jays told Thomas he was “benched” rather than just sitting him a few days and waiting to see if his performance would improve, since it’s not as though they had hitting talent knocking down the door. Having said that, once they did so, and Thomas took his case to the media, the Jays had little choice but to allow him to move on and try to prove them wrong.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is hard to say what would be happening...Stairs got hot there for a week as DH

But likely would have still been playing….Wilk? would we have signed him? Or Mench? Hard to think we wouldn’t be a game better with someone else leading off the last few weeks?

by Tom Dakers on May 24, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not Mench

since he was brought in as a lefty-killer and DH platoon mate. If we hadn’t signed Wilk before VW got hurt, we probably would have after.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice on Litsch

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Back to back walks

RISP time. 2 for 3 so far

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Rolen and Lyle

having good at-bats today

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

2 for 4

and another DP toward our record

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess lots of double plays

means lots of Jays on base

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I bet over the course of the season

the teams with more double plays score more runs than average. No proof of that, though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course, not as many runs

as they would score if they had the same amount of hits and walks but less double plays

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

diaper change time

back in a bit!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

he was really breezing by the end

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we don't have a hit since the first?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

seems hurt though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Overbay take a fastball down the middle on 3-1 for strike 2?

What was he sitting on?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure

But he sure got hosed on the 3-0 call

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure

he has gotten on base in 10 straight at-bats though, so he seems to know what he’s doing

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

plate appearances that is

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny... Sportsnet showed Yabuta Yasuhiko as the name of the reliever warming up

which is technically correct, but I don’t expect western TV to use the Japanese name order.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Jamie says "right down the pipe"

strike zone says it catches the corner.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday says outer third

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been amazed

At how rarely players seem to incur bad injuries as a result of fouling balls off their legs/feet/ankles, especially given the frequency at which it occurs and the relative vulnerability of some of the structures in the area.

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's true

they’re far more likely to hurt their feet or ankles by stepping awkwardly on a base than by fouling a ball off their feet

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 for 7

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

the Royals are

the only team in the AL who are scoring less than us

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

of course

those teams worse than you are the ones you have to beat. And although they’re still not good, these Royals are much better than the Royals of the past, who’ve given us plenty of problems

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stew walks, Hill infield single

RISP time again for Rios.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Exceptional effort?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it would have been a shovel pass for a close play

that’s not a routine play.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't have to be one or the other, right?

it could be ruled a fielder’s choice (even though the runner wasn’t out)

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

but only if it was clear they could've had the batter at first

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second error by Grud?

course if the SS stayed on the bag he might have had a play

by Tom Dakers on May 24, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Rolen flies to left, no sac fly

3 for 8

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

11 straight reaches

for Lyle

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Bat him leadoff already

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could still have it

once Stairs’ neck is fine

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Overbay would be a great #2 hitter. Excellent OBP, some but not a ton of power. If we had a true leadoff guy (what about moving Rios back up when Wells/Stairs are back, he seemed to perform well in that role earlier in the season), I’d like Lyle at 2.

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 for 9

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully Stairs will feel better by then

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet another

quick inning for Litsch

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's at 81 through 8

This is going to be one (pink, round) efficient complete game.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe a backup job for us behind Diaz?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has't been bad at getting on base

if his power picks up a little (currently it is truly pathetic), he should have a job somewhere, though likely as a backup

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably not if it were phrased that way

they’d probably tell him he has a chance to win the starting job, then hope that Diaz plays well enough in the spring to win it.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Barajas?

Club option at 2.5mil next year, and his numbers have been decent for a catcher (admittedly mostly against LHP, but still way better than the Zaunbie)

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 for 11

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

but slugging 6 for 11

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call it 3 for 12 on a Rios lineout

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

cmon Litsch

be great to see him get a shutout

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

leadoff double

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Bully!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Stairs has him beat by one

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah that's right

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has 5 hr

and still no one has passed him

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

gets the groundout

14th of the afternoon

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

the streak is over

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Litsch for All-Star rep?

6-1 with ERA 3.55, K/BB4. His IP, K numbers and other peripherals aren’t what some of the other starters’ are, but ASG selectors love wins and losses

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

that should read 6-1, ERA3.55, K/BB4

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

Apparently, SB nation does not recognize the tilde character. I wanted to say ERA approximately 3.55 and K/BB approximately 4

by SuckaMD on May 24, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a shot

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Litsch with the shutout!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

JotD: Litsch and Wilk?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on May 24, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta give at least honourable mention to Lyle

4 times on base in four appearances – just not much WPA because it wasn’t a close game.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

both Litsch and Marcum

basically now have one full season as starters. in both cases, the results have been fantastic.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

well everyone

have a great evening.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 24, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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