Chicago Cubs @ Toronto Blue Jays GameThread, Jun 15, 2008 1:07 PM EDT

The Right to Grief - Game 71, Cubs at Jays

by hugo on Jun 15, 2008 1:03 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 126 comments

Chicago Cubs @ Toronto Blue Jays

A tough game yesterday for our heroic corvids, but perhaps today will be a better day. A David Eckstein made things tough on Doc Halladay, and he surrendered a 3-run home run to old friend Reed Johnson from which the Jays were unable to recover. The Jays offense was completely punchless against the mediocre Jason Marquis.

Today's rubber match should be an interesting one. Another old friend, Theodore Roosevelt Lilly, pitches for Chicago while Jesse Litsch goes for Toronto.

By the way, Yahoo's Big League Stew is looking for advice and comments about the Rogers Centre for an upcoming article Here's an idea of what they're looking for . If you have input, please e-mail 'Duk at kduck22@gmail.com. I think he needs the info today, though. Let's go Jays!

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Tripod gets applause again

after beating the home team yesterday. Jays fans suck.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Riot lines out to second

but Hoffpauir didn’t stray far enough to get doubled off

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I keep coming in at the wrong moment....yesterday I turned the game on for the error and home run

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And now they're waiting for the roof to close

so that the shadows aren’t in a weird place on the mound

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Soto flies out to right

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

think we can get four off Lilly?

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That Mike Wilner keeps saying that the Jays 'should' have an average offense....but what players are above average at their positions?

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Career or this year?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, forget career

reasonable expectation for this year, or this year?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah well just a starting point.....woul dhave to do it with the whole league....figure which ones are above the mid point

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably wouldn't trade much for Lugo

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which Sox player isn't paid double what the comparable Jay is paid?

I guess Wells is getting more than the CFs, and Youkilis was a late starter

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok do Tampa before the season....which wouldn't you rather have offensively?

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well before the season Longoria wasn't their starting third baseman

so I would have to take Rolen over whoever it was they had. (Somebody Aybar?) Gotta take x over Bartlett. Hill was a better hitter than Iwamura last year.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rios probably better than whatever their RF situation was

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Navarro's OPS last year was .642

so I think either of Zaun or Barajas would have been better

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so about half the spots

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

guess maybe if I have a few hours I'm going to try to figure that question...if we should ahve hoped they be average....right now I only see that Hill and Rios are the two we should have hoped to be better than average....

And Rios wouldn’t be all that much better than average….there are a lot of good RFers out there

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Johnny Mac draws a walk

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rios draws a walk

Scoot grounds soft to short, only play is at second

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Scutaro was 6 inches from first

Why check on him?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Only Oakland is worse against lefties

and their lineup is loaded with lefties

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Johnny Mac out looking in a 9 pitch at bat

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lilly strikes out the side

and the boo birds seem to be out

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We have 6 homers against lefties all season

Philly has forty. (Granted, park effects may be a factor.)

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Would explain his power disappearing....and that it came out of no where when it came....was very sudden that found the power stroke

by Tom Dakers on Jun 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wells reaches on The Riot's error

hardly makes up for the bases loaded popup

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mench walks

RISP time again

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

With the lefty out, Camp is in

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lee singles up the middle

and again Barajas can’t catch the throw, so 2 score.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Ramirez hits a homer

so is Camp getting DFAed tomorrow after this Benitez-esque meltdown?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marmol is in

I sure hope Vernon is sitting on a slider

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Barajas has dropped below 0 WPA

making Inglett the only active Jay hitter who has added wins.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marmol with 4 straight fastballs to start Wells 3-1

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Another hard hit ball to Tripod

0 for 6

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Johnny Mac strikes out swinging

so 4 runs to get with 3 outs, and they’re warming up Kerry Wood.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Inglett singles

so that should be bases loaded nobody out, and instead is corners with 1 out

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wells hits a meaningless sac fly

and now they tying run should be coming to the plate with 1 out, but isn’t.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stairs flies to left

and we’re under .500 and have lost 5 straight series.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jun 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Petition to get joe saunders a start or spot in the all star game

Rodger Lodge and Dave Smith are the two best radio talk show hosts in the country. Period.

by hunter48 on Jun 16, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

reply yes if you agree

Rodger Lodge and Dave Smith are the two best radio talk show hosts in the country. Period.

by hunter48 on Jun 16, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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