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Game Thread for Game 99, Toronto at Orioles




W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Jesse Litsch 8-6 19 18 1 1 0 0 110.1 127 59 51 16 17 58 4.16 1.31


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Radhames Liz 3-2 8 8 0 0 0 0 35.2 40 32 30 10 22 28 7.57 1.74

Guess I had Radhames Liz' name backwards yesterday....whoops....is better this way. Neither pitcher has done well of late, though we do have a habit of turning every pitcher we see into Bob Gibson, but we hit well yesterday. Hoping Litsch turns it around soon, we need him.

Slightly different batting order today, Eck is in playing short and batting 9th. I'd rather him batting second over Scoot. He is fun to watch, taking the little run up to throw to first. I really don't think his defense is any worse than Scoot's at short. Stairs, finally has been removed from the cleanup spot. Overbay is in, maybe he can add to his league lead in grounding into double plays. I'd like Cito to move Lind down in the lineup but can't have everything and as long as he keeps Wilk out I'm happy. The unfortunate problem for our team is that somebody has to hit at the top of the order, if they all could hit in the 7 thru 9 spots life would be good.

Marcum comes off the DL to pitch tomorrow night. Can put your guess for who goes down in the comments.

I get to watch today's game so join me in the game thread tonight. Let the battle for last begin.

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Good stuff

We need guys to start coming off the DL

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you know

what the problem is with Hill? And what’s the official word on McGowan? Sorry, I should know these things but I haven’t been watching much lately

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

A friend of mine (regular on Let’s Go Tribe, Indians SB Nation blog) has long expressed fascination with the Jays’ recent inability to keep their pitchers healthy. Discounting Doc’s freak DL-trips (batted ball to the leg, appendicitis), we have Ryan and League from last year, now McGowan, Marcum, Janssen, and the rest of the RH relief crew. But not only do they get hurt, but the injuries seem to come out of nowhere, with no indication of problems from the front office. It sometimes (e.g. BJ last year) even seems like the organization actively tries to conceal injuries, and then the guy goes down for an extended period.

Even with the position players, you had the Wells thing last year where there was clearly a problem with his shoulder and they wouldn’t shut him down, and now Hill who has been out for weeks from what appeared to be a simple concussion.

What do you think about this? Is it just bad luck or do you think there is a systemic thing going on?

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't know

The best I can think of is that Rios has a green light to go when he wants, so there wouldn’t have been a steal sign on for Overbay to anticipate. And then he wasn’t paying attention and couldn’t get going in time to move up.

Doesn’t excuse Overbay’s play, but it may be an explanation

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

but part of that is Overbay at first. He does put a ton of throws in the dirt, and he can’t make the throw from the hole to his right. He’s fine if he can get in front of the grounder (and he has good instincts which make up for his arm somewhat), but moving to his right or having to hurry the throw he doesn’t get much on the ball.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Case in point

infield single for Adam Jones on a ball hit to Eck’s right. Not saying every SS in the league would have made that play, but lots would have.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure it's a great idea

to be moving guys around the infield (especially young guys) just because your other players happen to be not very good. Especially when you aren’t competing this season (and let’s be honest, that ship has long sailed) you need guys to develop at the positions where they will provide the most benefit in the future. And Inglett does not project at SS.

E.g. before last season, some were advocating moving Hill to SS to fill the gap. But he had been tried at SS before (rookie year I think) and he provides more benefit at 2B, so I really think they made the right choice to leave him there, even having to watch him play next to Clayton

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He may have played SS in the past

but does he project as a legit starting major league SS?

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the same time

Given that the season isn’t going anywhere, why not put Inglett in there just for the hell of it?

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last you said it was 2 for 5

Though there may have been a couple in between

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I could have 10 questions for JP Scott Campbell would be at the top.....why not?

course since the man can’t tell the truth at all really wouldn’t matter

by Tom Dakers on Jul 21, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did he say

I wasn’t paying attention

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, the good old days

when there was AAA baseball in Canada. I wouldn’t know, since I grew up in Toronto, but I imagine it was good times.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

California League team in Calgary?

Isn’t that a bit of a trek for road trips? And what level is that? How can low-minors teams afford all that travel?

I always kind of assumed that the reason AAA baseball failed in Canada is because of the travel cost and issues, but maybe not seeing as lower-level ball apparently works.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That makes sense

Is the Edmonton team still the Trappers? I saw a game when I was in Edmonton in grade 12 (2002), when they were still AAA, and Pat Borders was the starting catcher for the visitors. Gave him a standing O and he waved at us.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also think Dawson should be in

But the Cubs would have an argument for him as well.

For all the talent on those early-mid-80s Expos teams, you would have thought they could actually make the playoffs a couple times.

by SuckaMD on Jul 21, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah they should have....was often the stupid things....

had some amazing players then a guy that really couldn’t play at 2B or ss

by Tom Dakers on Jul 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jays of the Day? Rolen .110 and Scoot .104

Suckage jay….Litsch 384, Stairs.171 and Lind -147

by Tom Dakers on Jul 21, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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