And I'm Looking Through the Glass Where the Light Bends At the Cracks: Game Thread, Jays at Tigers
Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers, Aug 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
After looking great against Oakland and terrible against Cleveland, the Jays hope for better luck in Motown this week. Shaun Marcum faces off against Justin Verlander in the first game of the series, with Marcum hoping to build on a great performance last time out (7 innings, took a no-hitter into the 6th, 1 run on a Bobby Crosby solo shot, 2 walks, and 7 Ks). Of course, Oakland's offense doesn't exactly stack up to Detroit's, so we'll see how it goes.
Maybe you heard about Gary Sheffield's whinging recently. Apparently Sheffield told the Boston Globe that he didn't like DH-ing because it makes it hard to be a team leader. Another thing that makes it tough - being a surly a-hole and complaining about your role on the team to an out-of-town newspaper for no other reason than it is a huge media market, and making $14 million while OPSing below .700. Let me just say that I am not a fan of Sheff's.
I am, however, a big Vernon Wells fan, and I am very happy to see him out there in CF again for the first time in too long. Stay healthy and play well, Vern!
My final thought - for how long can we keep hitting Stairs in the middle of the lineup? What did Lyle do to earn hitting 8th while Stairs is producing less but batting 5th? Do we really need to have Scoot batting 2nd?
Out to run, be back for the game. Let's go Jays!!!!
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pretty crazy right?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Marcum
gives up two two-out hits, but gets Cabrera to weakly ground out to end the inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Wells with the hustling
he wanted his first hit back. On the plus side, he ripped that pretty well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
let's see if Barajas
can not hit into a DP to kill this rally
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good baserunning by Matty
to score on Lind’s liner
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yep 2-0
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
let's not get crazy
what do you think we are, a major-league baseball team?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Marcum gets the whiner
and Hugo is happy
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
heh
the guy deliberately made errors to get himself traded. no, not a fan
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I doubt we'll do it anyway
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'd be willing to spend some coin
if we could get Furcal though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he fits in perfectly in other words
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
seriously though
your chance at getting an all-star quality SS on the free-agent market is pretty slim, particularly one who won’t need to sign for too many years. and I’m so tired of the Jays SS woes
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I've suggested that in the past
but I think the Jays have decided against it. Who knows if Hill will even be back?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
if we could trade Rolen
I’d try using Campbell at 2nd and Hill at 3rd with a little help from Inglett. Hill played well at 3rd before and the Jays would save a lot of money which they could use on a SS or pitcher
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
and I think a healthy Hill and Inglett
might be able to about equal Rolen’s production, though maybe Rolen will be stronger next season.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you're likely right
we definitely couldn’t get anything much for him. but I bet we could get a team to take him on. There are a lot of bad NL teams that need a 3rd baseman
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
likely would ahve to pay him. I don't know...
I can’t see what people would trade for him….he hasn’t been good in a long time
if we had a 3B close to ready in the minors I wouldn't mind having him.....
but since we don’t, is tough paying him that much. I would doubt he’ll ever get to 15 home runs again
we gave up Glaus for him
and his stock shouldn’t be any lower now than it was when we made the trade, right? he had a better year this year and was healthier than last season, and now he’s owed less money
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't know.....another injury prone season
and I’m not sure that anyone else would have made a deal for him.
you could be right about that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it's weird, he didn't used to be
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
sounds great
but I just got finished making some homemade pesto
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Inge
gets the Tigers on the board.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Marcum hung that pitch a bit
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Phone rang....someone speaking Chinese or something sounding like that......
unfortunately wasn’t that great a conversation
Marcum walks Mags
and 2 on, 2 out again for Cabrera.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Marcum gets him to ground out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Rios walks
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Vernon with another line drive hit
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Lind hits another one extremely well
but again it is caught
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that was a little silly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
1st and 2nd with no outs I like
since it moves 2 runners up and takes away the DP. but just a runner on 2nd is kinda dumb
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
depending on who is batting and what the score is of course
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't like that one much because the bunt has to be perfect with the force chance at third...unless it's a big surprise
not if you can bunt it down the third base line
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
still has to be good cause if the pitcher can get it.....like yesteday...I always think if you get the first two guys on....
why not see if you can get more guys on…..got the shot at a big inning why play for a run?
that's definitely the better way to go
but the last two seasons of watching the Jays have scarred me. We get 1st and 2nd and no out and it doesn’t even feel like we’re threatening
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
course last night mac hits, scoot beats out a bunt....I figure if mac can hit anyone can...
but they get the number two batter to bunt….he telegraphs it….they get the force then the double play ball
Rios
reaches the 50-RBI plateau
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yep
I think it’s fair to blame some of it on the team, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
and a couple of the ones that do come in are busy lately
Suckamd is studying…and a couple of the others are busy
Big Rod goes deep
heh
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not sure
but I don’t think so. what do you mean?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
ahh
congratulations!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Arizona
traded for Dunn
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I saw that....and longoria is hurt....too bad we aren't in the race...longoria and crawford gone
manny and wakefield gone and Posada and Joba gone….we’d ahve a shot
crushed that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Cmon Shaun
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
gets Sheff
to pop up to Mac
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Marcum's done for the day
he got his hugs, well deserved for a job well-done though not perfect, this is a dangerous lineup
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
quick inning
League for the 7th?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
It is crazy
how the Jays lost their setup man and closer from last season for basically the whole year and their pen has still been as good as it has
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I really thought Gibby got a ton better at using the pen this year,....last year he didn't seem to ahve a clue
this year he was text book almost
sweet inning from League
2 Ks and a comebacker
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
so who's our starting catcher next season?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
do we just let Zaun
one more vet we sign, Diaz, and Thigpen fight it out in the spring for the two jobs?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I think Barajas and one of the four prospects.....Jorolman or whatever his name is should have a shot too...
and Arencibia
Arencibia still needs another season or so in the minors, I think
I’m up for giving Jeroloman a shot with the others. I wouldn’t mind resigning Barajas either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yes, sorry
that’s what I meant
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he was great last season too
I just hope we’re not overusing him. does he really need to pitch when we’re up by 5?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he's had some days off right.....yeah I think he is over used....
course if he only throws 7 pitches….and we need this one.
of course
when you can do it in 7 pitches, why not?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it is fun to watch one of our players
continue to play great AFTER signing an extension though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
is it ever
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he has looked better at the plate recently
I think playing regularly helps
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah I'd like to think he could hit 250 if he was left in.....
but then he was awful in the field the other day…..
B.J. time
let’s end it quickly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
speaking of things on the site....I caused a space between the last few names on the Jay of the Day thing.....do you know how to fix that?
I think so, now that I think about it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the other thing I wanted to do before but didn't know how was to move some of the widgets around
and add some. Eric did it for me but would have liked if he had told me how.
I fixed the Jays of the Day
I had to go into the html coding and fix the code
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
for the widgets, I just go into the manage layout and you can literally drag the widgets around
and hit preview to see how it looks. when you’re happy with the new layout, save changes. To add, there is a little menu at the very bottom of the layout screen, where you can add. if you do custom, you can make your own
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you should be able to just drag them to the top and see how they look with preview
don’t worry about messing anything up, since you can always just not save if something gets screwed up
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
great start to the inning
cmon man
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
definitely
over .500 again, at least.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yep
great to see another good start from Marcum, especially against a high-powered offense. And Wells was on top of the ball too. Nice one fellas!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he did hit two hard line drives
they just got caught by outfielders
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
sure would
well, time to spend some QT with Mrs. Hugo. Do you want to do the recap, and I’ll do a post tomorrow morning?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

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