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Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers


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Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers

08/12/08 7:05 PM EDT

Toronto Blue Jays Detroit Tigers
Joe Inglett - 2B Curtis Granderson - CF
Marco Scutaro - 3B Placido Polanco - 2B
Alex Rios - RF Carlos Guillen - 3B
Vernon Wells - CF Magglio Ordonez - RF
Matt Stairs - DH Miguel Cabrera - 1B
Rod Barajas - C Matt Joyce - LF
Adam Lind - LF Gary Sheffield - DH
Lyle Overbay - 1B Edgar Renteria - SS
John McDonald - SS Brandon Inge - C

Today's title comes from the stark and crushing Bruce Springsteen song "Highway Patrolman," off the Nebraska album, which is essentially just The Man kicking the crap out of John Q. Public, set to music.  Not sure what it says about me that it is my favorite Springsteen record.

A.J. faces off against Zack Miner today in the second game of the series, and the Jays look to stay above .500.  Let's go Jays!

 

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hmmm

somehow my story from earlier today about Scott Richmond got erased. that sucks….

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no first inning runs

as VW strikes out

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not sure

but I doubt it was anything you did. it may reappear at some point, who knows?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we can do that

I hooked him up this afternoon

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IMed eric on msn just to let him know about matt.....

he said ‘make sure you trust him since he has access to the front page’....I figure you didn’t know me at all before I had access

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burnett gets out of the inning

with a grounder to Lyle

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that never gets old

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so how come you're a Newcastle fan?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh cool

I picked them because, when I was living in Baltimore, a friend of mine visiting from the UK thought it reminded him of Newcastle

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've never been to St. James Park either

I hope to go one day

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adam

crushed that!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

be back in a bit....

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheffield is a beast. xD

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you guys watching it on GameDay?

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same

Nice grab by Cabrera.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesn't hit many anything.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

News

Via Jamie Campbell: Aaron Hill is done for the year.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is sad

hope he’s better by next season

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

By the way, what’s going on with Eckstein?

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cito

So he’s just sitting him on the bench?

I’m sorry, my whole life has been filled with the Red Sox the past couple months.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah Cito just doesn't like him....I didn't think he was doing that badly....

watching him throw from SS is great fun but really he wasn’t doing badly

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's decent at the plate

but his fielding has declined a lot

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade

Should have traded him for Lincecum when we had the chance.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JP

Yet another reason to fire JP.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

Yes, I did notice that. I’m sure that will be a hot-topic during the off-season on Bluebird Banter.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Out Of Town Scoreboard: David Ortiz hit TWO three run home runs in the bottom of the second inning alone. They now lead 10-2.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Knuckler

The young Knuckler to replace the old Knuckler. Wakefield’s supposed to miss atleast two starts.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Throw

Good hard throw from Scutaro to just get the runner.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Granderson

Stand-up double for Granderson.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gone

I better get going, I’ve got to meet family at the beach. Nights like these are so amazing in Florida. Too bad I only get to see them in the off-season. Talk to you later, Tom.

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by Matty Gaul on Aug 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

enjoy

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

word

fajitas tonight for us, but first Mrs. Hugo has to finish making them

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wells and rios are the worst situational hitters besides a-rod

they swing for the fences when there are men on base
but they shorten their swing and go with the pitch when noone on

that is how a team with decent hitters and lots of men on base blow ball games—their 3 and 4 hitters stink when it counts

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't checked the numbers

but anecdotally, I can’t disagree

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or maybe he just screwed him up so bad

it is taking a while

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw that

I guess they aren’t too happy with Buchholz

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he sure does

since going 3-0 on mags

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course then he hits Joyce

to bring Sheffield back up

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually I did hear some boos

watching the Tigers feed on FSN Detroit, which the announcers politely ignored

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah the first time up....

and yesterday they were on him big time

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard some even this time up

after the HR

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or maybe it was just me, haha

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

she’s out playing tennis actually

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Hill thing

is so sad

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

next season Lind, I hope

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Detroit announcers are jabbering

about how teams don’t carry players anymore for their glove. they chose the wrong at-bat to make this argument

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have you noticed

that every year the Jays say that they have a new everyday SS but every year Mac ends up with the job

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too bad Inglett can't play SS

he and Mac would make a solid tag-team

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do sort of agree

but Pace Russ Adams, you don’t need to see someone in the majors to know whether they can play SS. I’d like to see him get the chance, but I assume if he could do it, the Jays would know

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should never type while talking to children.....

I am not sure I trust the jays….I’d like to have it proven to me that he can’t play ss…..but know that’s not going to happen

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice at-bat by J-Mac

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

up to Rios

come on Lexi!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah right

why do I bother?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think if this season taught us anything

it’s that assuming that someone will hit better just because the year ends in a different number is a bad idea

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As much as I don't like JP.....

I can’t blame him for signing Rios to that contract…..seemed like he was getting better each season….lock him in…..who would have guessed he was going to forget how to hit with power?

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you

I was all for the Rios deal and the Hill deal. I did oppose the Wells and Overbay contracts though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

particularly when Rios

could’ve replaced him in center. That said, I’m a big Wells fan. I just thought it was a dumb move though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good job

to get Granderson to pop up, now what?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well played!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice bounceback, AJ

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously, we have to score now

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Aug 12, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey Torgen

how’ve you been?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually working at work

Meanwhile, we didn’t score. AJ’s gonna get shelled this inning.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Aug 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I’ve had that, and then some, for the last few months

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was about as far from scoring

as is possible

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think rios and wells are fixable

just have some bad habits…i would let rios lead off now…and put wells to 5th spot if he cant handle cleanup…it looked like cito was trying to move lind up the order…then lind had bad three days

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wells looks okay to me

just needs to get his feel back after being out for a while. Rios really needs work though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not a big fan of Rios leading off....he doesn't get on base enough for me....

and if he has bad habits, he’s had a season to fix them…..is he teachable?

by Tom Dakers on Aug 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for a while

it looked like Rios seeing a lot more pitches and walking more. Then he wasn’t showing power or hitting and he just started hacking

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is really going to suck

when Kenny Rogers shuts us down tomorrow. I hate that guy

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he hits singles and doubles and steals bases

spells leadoff to me
he would be the tallest lead off hitter in baseball history probably—so that would be good

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's definitely not driving in runs

so maybe hitting 1st or 2nd would be better. particularly if he uses the opportunity to start seeing more pitches

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he would still hit enough to play CF

too bad we are paying Wells 18 million a season to do so

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sure

but Rios still has tons of upside. the homers are in there somewhere, and he does have stretches where he shows glimpses of plate discipline

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you just can't afford to wait for it

while he is in a corner spot

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was clearly gone

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the caucus of umps agree

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rios doesnt hustle again

just like play two weeks ago with doc pitching

yes its a homer

still you got to hustle

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he will never win the Reed Johnson award, it's true

though that was easier to swallow when he was actually hitting

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burnett

looks annoyed at Cito for arguing the call, which is funny

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one thing you have to hate rios

he is always styling

that said he is a true 5 tool player….a very valuable commodity in post steroid era

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

booooo

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sheff juicing again

heard the boos..decided wtf, my career is going down the toilet—-gotta do something

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did I call it or what?

AJ threw a ton of pitches and the offense didn’t get him any rest.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Aug 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

personally

I’m looking forward to the inevitable too-little, too-late rally

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the game is slipping away anyhow

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, Inge

man, that was dumb

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Leyland is that

makes it tough when it’s the catcher though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stealing third??!!!

are they insane?!!!

now i see how tigers can be 2 games under 500

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice one Lind

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it would be great

if Lyle could not hit into a DP

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lind has olerud swing

should be 320 hitter with 40 doubles, 20 homers
doesnt seem to have holes in swing
even fouls off tough pitches

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cmon Mac

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

juicers

all teams were juicers
just happenstance that yanks jays and mets got caught

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, Mac!

cmon Joe!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i am a prophet

thats two predictions right in 1 inning for me in case you counting

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4-2 now

cmon Scoot

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if scutaro gets on and rios faces zumaya

i think rios comes through
if zumaya is still just throwing heat and has no curve

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if scoot is smart

he will look for the walk, Zumaya has been wild

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah Scoot!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets see if i can go 3 for 3

i dont think z can get his curve over
will rely on fastball

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a bad time to run

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how come all of us can independently reach this conclusion

but the Jays can’t?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vernon time

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by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

VW!!!!!!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the 4 hole?

Maybe Overbay or Stairs. Not saying the result wouldn’t have been the same as if it had been Wilk, but let’s be real.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

Wilk would’ve been in the 2-hole, and the inning would’ve been long over

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man

it is good to have him back

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

inge loses game for them

way to go brandon
keep stealing third

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hit here wins game

they aint hitting league, downs again

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

although they can kill bj ryan

who should have been deadline traded

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on the other hand

if you can’t trust your #1 setup guy to throw strikes, that’s not good

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

to borrow one of Torgen's

good news everyone!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lind flies out

to end the inning. League?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do we have the majors best defense

with wells back, and mac in short, i think its us or tampa

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe with Rolen and Hill out there

not with Inglett and Scoot

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not aj's win

they scored in top of this inning

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aj would still get the win

he finished the last inning

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boston blew 10-0 and 12-2 leads

Texas now leading 15-14.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Aug 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

an inspiration for us?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

case in point

re: the defense

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

league has nasty stuff

would be a closer on 25 other teams

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Accardo can get healthy

I’d be up for trading Ryan in the offseason, and letting League, Downs, Accardo, Janssen, etc. fight it out for the back of the bullpen

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

true

but only 3 years to go, and he has been healthy and effective this season

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cmon

Brandon

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by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice

another run or two would be nice though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the thing that kills me and i assume all jays fans

is that they are one decent hitter away from playoffs plus more

and that hitter could have been rios or wells…a good season from even only one of them would have given us playoffs

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know...

Rios had a good year last year, the pitching and the bullpen were fantastic, the defense was amazing, and we still weren’t close

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you cant have both the three and four hitters killing rallies

killed us all year
and last year, starting pitching wasnt as good as this year

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still top 3 or so in the A.L. though, right?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

manny would have been enough--sort of

but there;s no way he’d be properly motivated to play well in podunk toronto
he’d be malingering within a month

by norm depalma on Aug 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how many lefty setup men

are brought in to face Miguel Cabrera?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and yet

he gets a weak groundout

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by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have faith

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 12, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs