Thursday Notes
by Tom Dakers
on Aug 28, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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Just had to point out this story, Yankee security threw a guy out of the ball park because he wanted to go to the bathroom during 'God Bless America'. I'll admit I think forced patriotism on people is just plain stupid. You shall stand and you shall sing. Hopefully it is a case of minimum wage security people not understanding their job.
Another story I thought I'd pass on is from Fangraphs, Pirates Plunder Toronto. Now I don't really like the trade but to say the Jays got 'plundered' is over stating things a lot. I like Diaz but I don't think he'll become a great major league player. I think in the long run it will end of up a nothing for nothing trade. But we'll see.
Carl Yastrzemski apparently is doing well after heart bypass surgery. Carl was one of my favorite players when I was young, maybe had some to do with his name but he was one of the greats. And he shares his birthday with my wife.
Firejoemorgan is one of my favorite pages on the web, mostly because Joe Morgan bugs me so much when I watch a game he does color on. Loved him as a player, but he doesn't seem to have any idea what goes into winning baseball. Today on the page they tear a strip out of Richard Griffin. A well deserved strip at that, Griffin said that AJ is having a 'career year' because of the win total.
A: The reason that this is a career year for Burnett is that baseball is a team sport and the team goal is victories.
This is, presumably, the same reason that between the pitching Hernandezes, Livan (10-8, 5.48 ERA) is having a better season than Felix (8-8, 3.28 ERA). Don't you understand baseball is a team sport, Felix, you selfish prima donna?
The Twins enjoyed Livan Hernandez' winning ways so much, they decided to cut him from their baseball team. Guess they hate victories, which are the goal of sports.
I hadn't heard this rumor from si.com's truth & rumor page, the Angles are looking at our excess of middle infielders to find a back up for Erick Aybar. I hope something can be worked out, might as well get something useful out of an over stocked position.
Is the Met's pitching situation so desprite that they might want Carl Pavano? That's a scary thought.
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griffin right about aj
griffin pointed out that aj has pitched very well in most of the games (approx 2.80 era in games he wins) and poorly in few games…however those poor games have skewed his era mark to make it seem worse than it is
to analogize through a bit of exaggeration, if a pitcher throws 3 perfect game victories in a row(0 era) but then has one awful game where he gives up 12 runs without getting an out, then his combined era of 4.00 would inaccurately reflect his value as a pitcher.
by norm depalma on
Aug 28, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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well
certainly you have a good argument, but that’s not really what I read Griffin to be saying. He started off with A.J. has had a career year just because he reached a career high in wins. He started to sort of seem like he was getting to the argument you were making (which, again, I believe is a good argument) but he never really got there because he was too busy making fun of sabermetrics.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on
Aug 28, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
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Well the other part is....
Throw out a pitchers bad games and yeah he’ll have a good ERA…..try it with just about any pitcher. If you are going to say that then you better go back to last year and see if his ERA wasn’t better last year in his wins too. Giving a stat without giving a baseline for it makes it useless.
And course, Griffin, taking shots at stats he doesn’t understand, I think when you start and argument by saying ‘I don’t understand this so it is wrong’ undermines your point.
by Tom Dakers on
Aug 28, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
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by the way
God Bless America is quite possibly the absolute worst song ever written in the history of mankind. Torgen and I had an argument last year about which of us was entitled to hate the song more: he, a Canadian atheist, or me, a believing American. I still think I’m right – cause the song makes a mockery out of two things I actually care about.
I don’t mind that the Yankees play it at every game, though, since I find it fitting.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on
Aug 28, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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I'm a Canadian Atheist too......
But I’ll say you have the edge because I just don’t care at all about the song. I can’t remember it when I was at Yankee Stadium last year. But throwing someone out cause they want to go to the washroom while it plays is a little much…..
by Tom Dakers on
Aug 28, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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Throw out a pitchers bad games and yeah he’ll have a good ERA…..try it with just about any pitcher
but the point with aj is that he has had fewer bad games than other pitchers…hence his record
by norm depalma on
Aug 28, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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I think his record could have to do with the team scoring when he pitches.....
AJ is 4-0 in August….3 of the wins he was awful. one he was good. And his one no decision he was awful….get a lot of runs you’ll win. I still think wins in isolation don’t make a career year.
by Tom Dakers on
Aug 28, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
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I tried it with Doc this year.....
Wins he had a 2.04 ERA, losses 3.92. In his loses too he had a larger number of unearned runs. I’ll do Litsch tomorrow because I think he’ll have a huge split.
by Tom Dakers on
Aug 28, 2008 10:36 PM EDT
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