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Three Wins in a Row!!

Yeah it helps that we are playing the A's, but still three wins are three wins. And we beat a left handed starter. I guess we'll see when Cleveland comes to town if we are any good. One of those strange games where we got more runs than hits. We got 4 hits in the game, took five walks and scored 5 runs. Most of them came on a three run homer by Barajas. And Lind had 2 of the 4 hits. He has his average up to .306.

The real story of the game was Shawn Marcum. He was terrific. 7 innings, 3 hits, 2 walks, 1 run off a Bobby Crosby homerun, his second of the series. I really really thought Shawn should have came out after the 6th. In the 7th he gave up 2 of his 3 hits for the game. First two batters singled, Thomas on a liner up the middle and Gonzalez on a pop up that fell between 3 guys, dumb luck. Then Marcum walked Cust, at which point I was yelling at the TV for Cito the make the change. Then Ellis ground to Mac on a ball that couldn't have been turned for a double play. Johnny made a quick decision to come because Thomas was running (to use the term loosely) home. Mac's throw beat Thomas home by 5 to 10 feet. Mac as always is amazing.

Next batter Hannahan hit a slow one to Scoot and he and Mac turned a very nice double play. So Marcum had the bases loaded no one out and got out of it with no runs scoring, with the help of 2 great plays. If Mac hadn't been playing short, I don't think, either of those plays get made. Downs came in to pitch the 8th and BJ finished, each continuing the great job our bullpen has done.

In our half of the 7th we got two runs in fairly strange ways. Lind got a single and the A's pulled Gio, who really pitched great in his first major league start. Or at least we made him look great. We've made a number of pitchers look great this year. Santiago Casilla came in and walked Rolen. A really bad move because Rolen really isn't hitting at all, due to a sore shoulder I guess. Castilla threw a wild pitch to move the runners to 2nd and 3rd. But he got Mench to ground out without moving up the runners.

With Mac up Lind scored on what sort of looked like a swinging suicide squeeze. Mac barely tapped the ball the pitcher came home with it, Lind running on the swing made a great slide and beat the tag, though Suzuki dropped the ball anyway. Then Scoot walked to load the bases and the A's brought in Joey Devine to pitch and Cito pinch hit Stairs for Eck.

This was where it got confusing and unfortunately I was on the phone at the time and didn't really catch on to what happened but what I figure is Stairs hit a easy ground ball to second but Ellis instead of throwing to second and having Crosby throw to first for an easy double play, Ellis ran towards Scoot. Scoot smartly stopped and Ellis didn't go after him to tag him, but threw to first taking the force off at second.

That's where it got confusing, Barton, at first, threw home and Mac was tagged out at the plate for the third out. What I didn't realize and what the camera didn't show was that Rolen was on third at the start of the play and he had scored. Since Ellis didn't get the normal force at second and throw to first double play, Rolen's run counted because he scored before the last out.

TSN had us at 4 runs at the start of the 8th inning then it changed to 5 without the commentators saying anything about it. Gameday had the score at 4 until the end of the 8th. I had thought it was a 4 run lead and was wondering why Cito had put in Downs. Then saw that it was a 3 run lead and was fine with Downs coming in. Then there was the confusion. Then Ryan came in and I thought 'well it must be a 3 run lead or BJ wouldn't be in'. Then Torgen explained what happened in the game thread, thanks Torgen.

Tomorrow we go for the sweep behind AJ. Should be fun. I am not on my computer and don't have the link to the fangraph and don't have my spell check but I'm going to post this as is and fix it tomorrow when I have my own stuff......

Forgot the Jays of the Day. Barajas (.218 WPA) and Marcum (.292). No real Suckage Jay, Scoot had the worst WPA at -.039.

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David Eckstein is our DH

and we’re winning. This is insanity. But great to see such a good start from Marcum. Let’s see if A.J. can keep it going tonight.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 7, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as we put up the wins, that all that really matters.

Now, if Eck is our DH next year, or when Wells is healthy and back, that would be something to be quite upset about. But Eck has been surprisingly decent this year, and I prefer him DHing to someone like Mench or Zaun.

by Jevant on Aug 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eck

I think everyone would prefer that… mainly because the other 2 suck so much…
although Mench did have that clutch hit two games ago for the walkoff…
but with Eck as DH, he’s not fielding which is always a good thing… don’t want that error machine with the noodle arm to screw up the game for us…

by hopelessjaysfan on Aug 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Had to check that out.....

I know I’m obsessive/compulsive but I had to check out the ‘error machine’ line…..

Fielding Average at SS:
Eck .960
Scoot .974
Mac .964

So, to me, those numbers are basically the same….1.4% difference between top and bottom.

Range Factor at SS:
Eck 4.04
Scoot 4.12
Mac 4.63

This is where the real difference is to me, Mac gets to more balls than the other two. Scoot and Eck have about the same range.

Me, I like Eck at short for the entertainment value of watching him having to take a run at it to make that throw to first. Beyond entertainment value, I like Mac out there…..he is amazing to watch. And, though I’m not sure this means much, the Jays are 14 and 8 in games Mac has started at short.

Defensively I think Eck and Scoot are a wash. I like Eck’s bat slightly more. Eck DHing is one of those things that make you wonder why JP hasn’t been fired yet.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

error machine

ok didn’t really check the fielding averages before writing that thing…
i’m not exactly sure what range factor means but i think we all agree that on the defensive side, we would rather have Scoot or Johnny Mac at short… i mean, if after the shortstop picks up the ball on a grounder, and there’s 2 seconds to get the ball to 1st, who would you want throwing the ball? Eck has a WEAK arm, just watch him when he tries to throw a ball against the momentum of his body.. he’ll double bounce that thing… those things won’t show up on a stat sheet but you know that important people like Cito recognize that stuff

by hopelessjaysfan on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eck's fielding has declined a lot

he used to be decent out at SS, not great, but not terrible (his arm has always been bad but he used to have the speed and footwork to put himself in position to make the throw better). I like his bat but he’s basically a placeholder at DH against lefties – he doesn’t hit lefties any better than righties, it’s just that the Jays don’t have a real righthanded hitter off the bench – they have Mench. I like Eckstein and I’d actually be up for giving him some time at 2nd base, his arm wouldn’t be as big a deal and Scoot could get some time off. But as a DH in the AL? How hard is it to find a right-handed hitter with a little power who can mash lefties a bit? Not hard.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Range factor....

is basically the number of putoffs + assists per nine innings. So since Eck’s and Scoot’s range factor are about the same they make the same number of outs a game. They have about the same range.
I think they are roughly equal defensively, Baseball Prospectus doesn’t like Scoot at SS, and watching him….I don’t either.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 7, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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