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Gold Lion's Gonna Tell Me Where the Light Is

As rince noted in the wee hours, J.P. announced yesterday that Cito can count on having a job next season. J.P. praised what Cito has done with the offense, saying that the team still had a ways to go but that Cito was moving the team in the right direction offensively.

For his part, Cito said that the Jays were "real close" and that they "just need to get some guys back who are on the d.l."

I'm happy with Gaston returning - he seems to have the respect of the players and he won me over with his immediate commitment to playing Adam Lind everyday. This was the one thing the Jays couldn't afford not to do as the season winds down. There's no doubt he's right that injuries have hurt - much worse than in last season, when J.P. basically blamed the whole season on injuries. And how much does the manager really make a difference anyway? I can't prove, but I have the unshakable sense, that some of the Jays better play under Cito was just regression to the mean after the team ridiculously underperformed under Gibbons.

But there are two things about this story that stick out - first, who has said that JP will be back next season? Last I heard, he was staking quite a lot on the team he assembled for this season and its ability to compete, and they weren't competing. The Jays are playing well at the moment, true, but perhaps they lucked onto stumbling Oakland at the right time. And what will it mean for the manager spot if J.P. isn't brought back?

Second, are the Jays really close? Perhaps, but I'm sure not feeling it. The offense seems worlds away from an actual functioning major-league offense, with the likes of Wilkerson, Mench (still yet to homer for the Jays), Stairs, Eckstein, and Inglett getting too many of the corner OF/DH at-bats (granted, some of that will change when Wells returns) and tons of question-marks around the infield and outfield looking forward to next season. Overbay has been barely adequate, Rolen about the same, Rios still not showing power, and who knows what will happen with Hill. It's not as if there's a ton of help coming from the minors in the short term (though Travis Snider was promoted to AAA and certainly has a shot at contributing next season). The Pitching, too, is a bit of a mystery - with Burnett unsure to return, Litsch scuffling a bit, and Janssen and McGowan rehabbing from shoulder surgery, there could be as many as 3 open rotation spots with not many internal candidates. My sense is that there's a ton of work to do for next season and the Jays should think long and hard about how they want to go forward.

Not fun thoughts considering the Jays just swept a four-gamer, but prompted by the announcement that Cito will return. By the way, today's title comes to us from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, who are, let's face it, pretty freaking cool. See everyone later!

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For JP to come out and say Cito will be back for sure is a bit of joke considering JP himself might not be back.

Cito will be back but potentially as the GM not the coach…next year the Jays are going to need a #2, #4, #5 starter with Doc and Marcum the only guarantees to be back. They will need a SS (still), a Catcher (still), a DH (still) and potentially a 2B depending on Hill. Those are a lot of BIG holes to fill for a team that wants to compete in the AL East. If they want to compete they can’t go into the season with Joe Inglett, Marco Scutaro and Brad Wilkerson being mainstays in the lineup.

by bunner on Aug 8, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

What's wrong with Joe Inglett?

you gotta admit he’s impressed during this year…. I think he deserves a spot in the lineup

by hopelessjaysfan on Aug 8, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inglett is a good option as a utility guy

but not sure about penciling him in as a starter and we need to keep him away from lots of corner OF at-bats. He is great insurance for Hill and Rolen next season though.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 8, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he shouldn't be a corner outfielder.....

But then if the choice is him or Wilk in the corners? He wins…..

by Tom Dakers on Aug 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cito will not be GM.....

The man has never been a front office person….I doubt he would have the patience for most of the job. Dealing with contracts, waivers, minor leagues and 2000 other things a GM has to do, I don’t think that’s the spot for on the job training for a 60 year old.

Catcher, I have a feeling we’ll go into next year with Barajas and any one of the 4 really good prospects we’ve got. 2B, if Hill can’t play I’m all for Inglett, he’s proved his value to me. He certainly is playing better than Hill did before the injury. I would even be for moving Hill back to short and using Inglett at 2B. What I really really want is a slugging DH type and, if Overbay could be moved, a firstbaseman with power. Of course, I also want Rios to find his power too. And I want another starter if AJ leaves, if he doesn’t I think we’ll be alright with Doc, AJ, Marcum, McGowan if healthy and some combination of Litsch, Purcey, Janson, Richmond and/or Cecil.
Our biggest problem….all those big contracts that can’t be moved. I’d love to get rid of Rolen, but who would take him. Wells and Rios can’t be moved. Overbay, I doubt anyone would take. Hill is in the same at the moment, can’t be moved until he proves he can play again, then he has to prove he can play like last year not this year.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 8, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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