Time to Start a New Streak, Game Thread
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Toronto Blue Jays at Chicago White Sox, Sep 11, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
We have Shawn Marcum (8-6, 3.42), he pitched 7 shutout innings in his last start and we could use that again tonight. Chicago has Gavin Floyd (15-6, 3.72), he was hit pretty hard in his last start 7 innings and 5 earned against the Angels.
Cito is still talking about starting AJ, Doc and Litsch on short rest this weekend againt the Red Sox, I guess if we win tonight he might try it. After not making an error for so long the Jays have made 3 errors in a game in 2 of the last 3 games. Making up for lost time. And Rios has an 11 game hitting streak going. Would have been good if he could have got one in the 9th inning last night, but he is hitting with power again. Makes me feel better about next year.
I am glad we are facing a right hander tonight, we'll be spared watching Bautista play first, that should come with a PG13 rating. I have a parent teacher meeting but should be back by the 3rd inning, so join me in the game thread. Go Jays.
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Hmmmm no one here tonight?
top of the 5th, zip zip
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uribe doubles with two out......
Marcum is just at 60 pitches after 4.2
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Overbay saves a run
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was a nice one.....think bautista would have made that one?
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably would have thrown it into left field
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered if Scoot would be running
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was the second bad call at first today to go in the Jays favour
earlier in the game, Swisher was ruled to have been off the bag on a routine throw from Cabrera, but the replay showed that his toe was on (wasn’t particularly close on replay, either).
Jays haven’t capitalized on either gift, however
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we bunting him over?
I wish that was a stupid question
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
followed by the overbay that we tolerate.....
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shattered bat thought....but this is the sort of game you gotta move him up
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we've heard a lot about these new maple bats this season
which apparently shatter easily and tend to shear off at the handle, resulting in entire barrels going flying.
I was always under the impression that bats had to made of ash. Is allowing maple bats new, or is it just that they have recently become popular?
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Joe Carter was the first to use a maple bat
before they were technically allowed
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Marcum does have an attitude problem
and all the other players hate him and that’s why they never score when he pitches.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now to give him some run support
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moonraker!
can we help him out more than we did for Lind?
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pinch runner? isn't Moonraker fairly fast?
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And it's Wilk?
Did we not bring up Lydon or Coats or something?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I thought Coats was. He started the year with the team, right? Also, he was a trade for cash, so he must have been in their system for a few years.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Voodoo Joe gets the bunt down
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well glad they pinch ran...snider could't have walked home on that....
it’s going to bite us in the ass later right
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lefty who hasn't had enough time to warm up
Lind and Overbay should be able to manage something here, right?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thank the ump if we don't score
clearly ball 4 on the 3-1 pitch
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolen too......but what he do.....they threw behind him......oh well two more runs
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Swisher finally gets that call
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got an explaination on our odds of makeing the playoffs going up yesterday
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston's division odds went down more than their wild card odds went up
and we got the difference?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the odds??
I have a friend who is bugging me to get into baseball…..I know very little!!!
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of the jays making the playoffs....2% chance at the moment
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he if is trying to get you into baseball he must be a good guy
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh I don't know about that.....he's been a real pest about it!!
The odds don’t sound good
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you don't know much about baseball
you’ve come to the right place. We’ll teach you everything you need to know, in exchange for pledging your undying allegiance to the Blue Jays, of course.
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than no chance at all.....
and baseball fans are the finest kind
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a simple game....
you hit the ball, you throw the ball, you catch the ball
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you throw your glove at a batted ball and hit it
it’s an automatic triple for the batter.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless the ump deems that it would have gone over the fence
then it’s a homer
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was assuming it would be on the ground
That’s some good aim if you can hit it on the fly.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder when this rule was last invoked in the majors, if ever
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably on a bunt
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends who you ask
One site says 2.7, another says 2
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcum's out of the game.....I didn't see who is coming in...downs?
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
naturally
the jays are only up by 6
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefty due up
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at baseball-reference today
and noticed that the sponsorship of Doc’s page has lapsed. I don’t know how much money is flowing through the BBB coffers, but it’s $165 to renew.
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ouch......hmmmm I don't know if there is any money.....no one has shown me
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i think it was like $60 last year
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder
how they price them. it must be some algorithm based on the number of hits?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think so.....ummmm someone there was only $6
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After further investigation
it appears that it just lapsed today. The policy is that upon expiration, the page is priced at $100 more than it was previously purchased for or three times that price, whichever is less. In Doc’s case, they added $100 to the previous $65 price.
The price then reduces by $10 per day until it is purchased or returns to its previous price, where it stays until someone buys it.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/sponsorship_renewals.shtml#2
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doc's price
will return to a $95 base price in 7 days
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hawk harrelson
is so f’ing annoying. makes me glad to have rance
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Against a guy with a .270 OBP
Maybe throw strikes, huh?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it......I hope Cito has someone throwing
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Had League up
Maybe if it gets past Thome
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still waiting
on someone assassinating hawk harrelson
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs still has us at 90% favorites
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are fangraphs?
and why are they important?
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a site that estimates each side's chance of winning
and each player’s contribution to the outcome based on historical data.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds complicated......
a lot of baseball math?
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rolen's hit seems
really big now
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
League gets out of it
please just leave him in for the ninth. Don’t make us deal with BJ
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad fangraphs won't calculate it for us
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if we get a couple of runs here we won't use BJ
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we get a couple of runs
we can afford to put BJ in
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if we score a few more we won't have to worry...
…oh wait, Wilkerson is leading this inning off.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah....well he got a hit last week.
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hardballtimes has him
at -2 Win Shares Above Bench
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing he's spent most of his time on the bench
lately.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
marginally better than shannon stewart
who is also -2 Win Shares Above Bench, but in fewer plate appearances. I guess Wilkerson hurts the team less quickly
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so if we had played a block of wood in LF for the half of the season instead of Stew and Wilk
we would be a full game better than we are now
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but I wouldn't have had things to rant about.......
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you could have ranted
about why a bench is playing LF when Adam Lind is in AAA
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know
the probability of throwing a runner out on a pitchout vs. on a regular pitch?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, what percent of pitchouts come when the runner is trying to steal?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pitchout was almost a strike
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember Johny Bench hitting a double off a 'pitch out'
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera hit a single on an IBB attempt
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
game-winner
in extras for cabrera
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, didn't he strike out
on a fake intentional walk once? like the count went to 3-2 and they faked an intentional walk and zinged one straight down the middle that he took?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that....I would think you'd have to give the ump a heads up
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i listened to a radio inteview with him
decently engaging personality, and you can’t really hold it against him, but he was really cocky
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing doing
with the Vernon Wells special
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can they just switch out pitchers as often as they want?
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But once you take someone out of the game, they can’t come back.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with 40-man rosters?
yes.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....I play softball....we have maybe 12 if we're lucky!
by Carm on Sep 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, yeah
normally there are only 25 players available, but in September you can expand to 40
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on BJ.....we really could do with an easy inning
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell tabler juiced has a different meaning than it used to
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trust me
he’s better than ken harrelson.
interesting move to pinch run for run that’s not the tying run?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Avoid the double play?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with AJ there
you’ll avoid the DP because he can just punch the second baseman.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he'd get called for interference
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just like last week?
depends on the umpire . . .
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is anyone else baffled by this move?
i understand it was HBP, but it didn’t look like he was hurt
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get a double play ball one time?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I take back everything bad I said about the ump before
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has been calling a really low strike zone, right?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only in the last few innings, really
at the beginning he seemed to be calling a good zone
by SuckaMD on Sep 11, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's got a mincemeat pie waiting for him at home
doesn’t want it to get cold
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Tried to go downstairs"
Looked more like he missed.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good thing they pinch-ran
runner got to third
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Uribe is such a terrible hitter
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And... exhale
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
by Torgen on Sep 11, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone remember the three up three down save.....
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
terminator style
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Sep 11, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah serious...
even though chicago’s a dangerous team
by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 11, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing game tonight
kinda got scared there but the boys pulled it out…
4 game sweep and we’re in the thick of it
by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
those calls on griffey were pretty horrendous
by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
question
doesn’t the rotation dictate that AJ, doc and litsch would pitch anyways, since its a 4 game set? those 3 plus purcey… what other option is there? spot start for richmond or something?
by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 11, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is hope....we must be up to almost a 4% chance
by Tom Dakers on Sep 11, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like those odds! even still... its nice to care about games in september for once
by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 11, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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