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Richmond Gets First Win as Jays Beat Orioles

We might have a keeper, Scoot Richmond gets his first win, his first complete game and his first shutout. Yeah it was only 6 innings to get the complete game and the shutout but it still counts. Richmond only gave up 4 hits, no walks and struck out 4. He has pitched well for us with an ERA of 4.00 and a 10:1 strikeout to walk ratio. He deserves to be looked at for the 5th starter role next season. Our problem is we have a handful of 5th starts possibilities and no real 2 and 3 guy if AJ leaves, Marcum gone till 2010 and McGowan out for at least the first month of next year.

As well as Richmond getting his first win, Curtis Thigpen got his first career home run. I hope Cito plays him the last two games of the season. I really don't feel too bad about the idea of Thigpen as our backup catcher. I think he could handle the role. Speaking of guys I'm feeling better about Rolen had another good game going 2 for 3 with an RBI. Rolen has been great in September, batting .298/.348/.524 with 3 homers. If he can hit like this next season and play 140 games we'll be ok at third.

Others that had a good night include Lind who came within a few feet of his first home run in a month but it was a double and he took a walk. Lind has got to find the home run stroke to be of value for us next year, but I think he will. He is keeping his average up at .289. Scoot went 2 for 4. Even Mac got a hit so it has to be a good day. It is nice to see us finally get some hits and runs off Chris Waters, guys like that we should beat.

Anyway, Jays of the Day: Richmond (.376 WPA) and Rolen (.150). Honorable mention to Thigpen. Batista Awards to Wells (-.197) and Moonraker (.136).

Two games left, tomorrow Parrish (1-0, 4.10) goes against Brian Bass (3-4, 5.08). Parrish has been doing very well for the Jays pitching out of the pen so it will be good to have a longer look at him tomorrow. And our pen is well rested. Gotta play the last two games so might as well win them.

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we might not need to look for another 2 guy…. the jays have offered 15 mill a year for 4 years to burnett and apparently he likes that number (I think it’s four years, the story I read claimed it was four years, but also that it was 2 years)

I think with Marcum being out for next year and McGowan not being ready for the start of the season, this is a move that needs to be made…. otherwise we’re looking at some huge holes to fill… although I really don’t like the idea of Burnett making so much more than Halladay (I think he makes 10M)

by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be 2 extra years beyond the two years he still has on his contract

I think Doc is owed 14.25 next year and 15.75 in 2010. Likely he’ll need a bump up.

by Tom Dakers on Sep 27, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so does that mean that he takes the 15M for the latter two years or does that come into effect next year if he accepts?

If Doc wasn’t so classy, he would have whined about his salary long ago… if he somehow leaves after 2010, it would be devastating to the team in terms of chemistry, leadership, fan base…
14.25 next year and 15.75 for 2010 is an absolute steal

by hopelessjaysfan on Sep 27, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

big news, not shocked by it but definitely will be surprised if it gets worked out

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a decent move

given the Marcum and McGowan situation. It’s really too bad that the young guys are so uncertain, because we could have used that extra money to pick up a bat.

From what I gathered from a previous game thread, we probably have about $15mil more to spend in the offseason (assuming AJ takes the deal). If you figure about $10mil of that will go to another starter (I like the idea of Dempster or Lowe, or, failing that, Byrd), we have another $5mil to play with.

We still have holes at SS and DH, so we need to decide if we are ready to have Snider be an every day player (in which case we would have a four-man rotating outfield with the odd man out on a given day DHing). I think the ideal situation would be to trade for a SS like Hardy and see if any good DH options are out there. If not, Snider gets the tab. If we can’t trade for a SS, we go after Furcal (or maybe Izturis or Lopez, two former Jays prospects) and the four-man OF/DH thing with Snider, Lind, Rios, Wells.

by SuckaMD on Sep 27, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd love to get hardy

i think lowe is a good move, dempster is ok but i doubt he’ll be able to replicate, despite his solid peripherals.

i do not think byrd is a viable alternative. 4 Win Shares Above Bench — according hardballtimes.com — that’s almost wilkerson-level futility.

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" --Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Sep 28, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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