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Friends of (J)P - Pre-gaming the Battle for the Jays' Rotation: Part I, Casey Janssen

Jays prolific beat writer Jordan Bastian never seems to struggle for things to write about, no matter how little Jays news there is.  Anyway, Bastian checks in this week with a series of articles on the Jays' rotation hopefuls.  Since we've been discussing projections for the Jays starters and the likely makeup of the rotation, I figure we'd mirror Bastian's articles and put forward what we expect from each of these pitchers. 

Bastian's first article is on Bluebird Banter long-time favourite Casey Janssen, and, while not breaking any news, per se, it has a few choice nuggets:

"There's nothing holding him back," Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi said last week. "He's ready to go."

Janssen has been medically cleared to go into Spring Training like any other pitcher after a March 2008 operation to repair what Bastian refers to as a "slight tear" in Casey's labrum.  JP has said that, assuming Casey is able to take the ball every fifth day, he will be pitching as a starter and is not a candidate to pitch in the 2009 bullpen. 

There's no doubt that Janssen has a tough road ahead of him, as does any pitcher returning from a serious shoulder surgery.  However, if Janssen is healthy, as all indications seem, that's a big addition to the Jays staff.  After being drafted in the 4th round out of UCLA, Janssen cruised through the minor leagues putting up quality numbers, and was generally a better-regarded arm than Shaun Marcum.  Casey has multiple quality pitches and compensates for less than dominating K numbers with very stingy walk rates (career 2.21 BB /9 innings) and solid groundball rates. 

If you'll remember, Janssen broke in with the Jays in 2006 as a starter and was looking quite good at first.  He trailed off, but it was subsequently learned that Janssen had attempted to pitch through a back injury and it's quite possible that that was responsible for his fall-off.  Either way, Casey concluded the 2006 season with a 104 tRA+ in the majors (a defense-neutral metric used to calculate a pitchers actual talent level as scaled to league average).  If Janssen can do that for the Jays this season, that would make him a very competent number 3 starter.  If Casey is healthy and can take advantage of the Jays excellent defense (and being a groundball and contact type pitcher, he likely can), the Jays could be in for a very pleasant surprise.  In 2007, Janssen made the Jays' bullpen and could have easily moved to the rotation but for the injury to BJ Ryan, after which Janssen was made the primary right-handed setup man and 8th inning guy.  Janssen performed extremely well out of the pen, but JP has always seen him long-term as a starter, and Janssen prepared for 2008 as a starter and, in my opinion, had basically won himself a starting job (which would've bumped Jesse Litsch back to AAA, though he himself had a decent spring) with a fantastic spring before the shoulder injury. 

Here at Bluebird Banter, we've advocated for the Jays to give Janssen a rotation spot if he shows he's healthy, and it's good to hear that now seems to be exactly what the Jays are planning on doing. What do y'all expect of Janssen this season? 

Bastian's next article, and ours as well (in this series), will look at Scott Richmond, who Bastian considers one of the "other front-runners" for a rotation gig.  I'm not sure I agree with that, but stay tuned.  And by the way, yes, that was a Rentals reference in the title.  I like the Tokyo Police Club version on the Rentals tribute record, though even that is overshadowed by the Tegan and Sara cover of "The Man With Two Brains," a haunting and beautiful song they totally nail. 

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Good points...

I think Janssen could pull off a -4.00 ERA, and be very successful with the Jays defense behind him, especially considering Snider will man LF and Hill is back.

I remember a couple of Janssen’s starts in 2006, where he was absolutely dominant. this year could be very interesting. Imagine a four-way race in the AL East…

by Andy Mc on Jan 28, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm really hopeful

I thought Casey was going to grow into being a good number 2 starter and with the full year to recover from the injury I am hoping it will be a good one for him.

by Tom Dakers on Jan 28, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Sharpe and T&S

BFF’s. He produced a few tracks on their last record.

Am I wrong seeing Casey Janssen as Shaum Marcum v.1.5?

by Lloyd D. Barber on Jan 28, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he has toured with them and played on the records, I know

Shaun Marcum v. 1.5 – now with groundball action!
(hopefully meaning less HRs, which is still Marcum’s biggest problem).

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jan 28, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Out pitch

Does he have one, like Marcum’s change? Ks are nice.

by Lloyd D. Barber on Jan 28, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they sure are

Janssen doesn’t really have a strikeout pitch from what I remember, but he has a number of quality pitches. He didn’t use them all in the pen, but from what I can remember he throws a 4-seamer, sinker/2-seamer, cutter, curve, change, and slider. He controls all of them well. It will be interesting to see whether he comes to rely on one or two of those as an “out” pitch, since he hasn’t had extended time as a major-league starter and it’s rare for a relief pitcher to throw more than 2 or three pitches at the most.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jan 28, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Janssen

After interviewing him last year at Spring Training before I became a Beat Writer, he struck me as a true winner. I hope this kid goes far.

Write this down; Janssen gets at atleast 14 wins in 2009 if he is a starter coming out of Spring Training.

Matty Gaul
Toronto Blue Jays Beat Writer
Email: mattygaul34@hotmail.com
Phone: 902-840-0905 (Text only, please.)
Website: www.bluebirdbanter.com

by Matty Gaul on Jan 28, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m a believer.

Prediction of my own -

Next November the #1 question in jays-land will be this:

Doc
McG
Janssen
Marcum
Listch
Purcey
Cecil

who get’s traded?

(and not even mentioning dos Romeroes and Mills and so forth)

More and more I’m thinking that it might not be a bad idea, once Doc is resigned, to see if McGowan can get us a quality SS next winter.

by WillRain1 on Jan 28, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Remember Cito is manager.....

odds of us getting to next year without a starter injured isn’t great.

by Tom Dakers on Jan 28, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are we assuming that Scutaro will walk

or that we will let him go?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jan 28, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure he will be gone

even if he were to end up a Type A, I’m not sure many other teams would look at him as a starting SS (or starting anything really) so he could well accept arbitration if it were offered. But even if we were to get a shortstop, Scutaro would be good to have as an utility player, and with Mac likely gone, we will need someone who can play SS.

That said, I have a hunch that if all goes well (meaning Campbell shores up his D a bit and continues to hit and get on base) and Hill has a healthy and productive season, the Jays will re-evaluate moving Hill to SS. I understand they don’t want to dump that on him right now, they just want him to get his legs under him and to have a healthy season without having to re-adjust to playing SS, but I could see next year being a different story. Hill at SS and Campbell atop the order could solve two of the Jays’ long-term problems at once and it’s too obvious, and cost-effective, to not at least consider. If that did happen, Scoot would be nice to have as, among other things, he would compliment Campbell due to his quality defense and right-handedness. Just a hunch, I haven’t heard a whisper about that.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jan 28, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In his small sample at Short

wasn’t Hill not so great defensively? Not that we would necessarily mind him being Jeter, I’m just saying.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Jan 28, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hill

No way he comes close to Jeter.

Matty Gaul
Toronto Blue Jays Beat Writer
Email: mattygaul34@hotmail.com
Phone: 902-840-0905 (Text only, please.)
Website: www.bluebirdbanter.com

by Matty Gaul on Jan 29, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

his eyes are way too nervous

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Jan 29, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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