Blue Jays and Blogs
Yesterday the Drunks gave their Guide to Tank Nation. There was a suggestion at the end that kind of interested me.
Invite two or three blogs, each homestand, to cover a game or two, assign a media officer to them, and show them the ropes. Yeah, the old media guys are going to give you dirty looks for it, but invite them to giv e the bloggers advice as well. And anyway, should the team really care what print journalists think? It's not like their precious newspapers are going to be around much longer anyway. I kid. I kid.
It is similar to something I've been saying for a while, that the Jays could/should pay a bit more attention to us blogs. We are fans, we are doing the team a service. And we are hoping the team succeeds.
That said, I really don't want to position us closer to the mass media. I don't want full access to the team, I don't want to be in the locker room or the press box. I don't want to be an 'insider'. I don't want to know that Kevin Millar is really a great guy in the locker room. Until they start giving runs for what guys do in the clubhouse, I want to just continue to care about what they do on the field. I can just see it though, 'Millar was the hero in today's game, he went 0 for 4 with 2 strikeouts and committed an error that led to 2 runs scoring, but in the clubhouse he hit a grand slam to win the game.'
The mainstream media does a good job at telling us who the good guys are and who they don't like. I don't want my view of Cito or Alex Anthopoulos clouded by the fact that they are really nice people nor do I want to dislike a player because they snubbed me for an interview. Leave that to Jamie Campbell and the beat writers. I'd like to keep our focus on what happens on the field and what moves the team makes.
That said, we do do the team a service here and it would be nice if they would acknowledge us. By us I mean the blogs, not just our blog. Would it be bad if the team made someone available for an interview, now and then. I mean if Alex talked to us he wouldn't have to worry about us putting a spin on his words, we'd just post them and he can talk to the fans directly without a writer filtering his thoughts through their perspective. Doesn't have to be the GM, could be anyone in the organization that has a few moments to let us know where the team stands on a few things. Or like the Drunks suggest, give us a few days sometime where we do have some access.
We aren't the enemy. We want the best for the team, we aren't going to spend every post trying to get the GM fired because we think we should have the job. We aren't going to roast them, unless, you know, we feel they need roasting.
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Have you attempted any interviews?
I’ve seen other SBNation blogs do interviews, and like you say, you relay the transcript, and we can spin the words and be the “bad guys”. In fact Arrowhead Pride actually has media access to Chiefs games and chats with players after games and have some really unique stories that one wouldn’t have known without press coverage. I know you mentioned you wouldn’t want them, but if you got access to a weekend series that you could talk/interview players and sit with other members of the media you wouldn’t?
I say take the offseason, make some phonecalls, send some letters/emails and who knows, maybe the Jays would permit an interview? How great would a 5 minute phone call from Aaron Hill or Doc, or something like that!
This isn’t a rouge blog who bashes the Jays, you just report the facts with a unique spin. Couldn’t hurt to try!
Hell, I’ll do it, you’d just have to make me blog manager ;-)
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by craig in calgary on Nov 19, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah....I've had emails into the Jays for more than a year now....
we got a big step forward that we are on the press release list and they do reply to my emails now. And I got a nice one from AA saying he’d love to talk to me when things slow down.
by Tom Dakers on Nov 19, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cool only 2 degrees of separation between me and AA - AAgoodfella to Dakers to AA
by aagoodfella on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be a written talk? Would love to see if he uses just as many words when writing as he does talking.
by Casusby on Nov 19, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot see why the Jays would not offer press equivalent access to established blog operators
It is just another media form. No different than a magazine, TV show, radio show, newspaper etc..
by aagoodfella on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Myabe cuz this franchinse is run by a bunch of monkeys. You think with Rogers being the leader in communication that they would atleast acknowledge the blogs. Being as its basically a form forhow people get news nowadays.
Plus I cant see Tom being a douche like most of the Toronto sports media. I’m sure he has questions that beat reporters wont ask, and he knows his stuff. Hopefully we can get some interaction next year, maybe some q and a’s with us bums asking questions.
by syc on Nov 19, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that kind of smooth talk does not seem like an effective way to facilitate inclusion of blogosphere into mainstream media :-)
by aagoodfella on Nov 19, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers + communication
I worked for Rogers for 6 mths – and let me say that I have NEVER worked anywhere where there was such poor communication! Apparently this is par for the course at all telecoms. So doesn’t surprise me to hear they are not on board with blogging…
by Ms_Canuck on Nov 20, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't the whole beauty of the blogdom
that it is detached analysis. no connections. no relationships. no repurcussions, explicit or perceived.
by ayjackson on Nov 19, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
everybody in the conventional media
seems to be in the back pocket of management or have an axe to grind, due to the way they are treated.
by ayjackson on Nov 19, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you are right...
I can say what I want without fear that I’ll be cut off from sources. As well, I don’t have the chance of taking a personal dislike for anyone so if I say something about a player it isn’t because I’ve got a person grudge against them.
But….Billy Beane has done some very in depth interviews with Tyler at Athletics Nation. The nice part, for him, is that he knows his words are going to be posted straight without a spin on them
by Tom Dakers on Nov 19, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
on the Jays' part
they’ve given the Battersbox very good access to staff for interviews. I don’t remember a JP interview, but pretty much everybody below him was within their reach.
by ayjackson on Nov 21, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a professional journalist (although far from the sports desk), I can tell you that access and relationships between teams and media is a fairly complex set of arrangements. It isn’t as simple as just calling someone in as part of an interview, even in cases where it should be.
Where in an ideal world, newsrooms are autonomous objective entities, there are corporate considerations as they are employed by a corporation, and as a result, there are understandings between ownership and the newsroom about access, appropriate channels and which lines cannot be crossed. Because the blogger is by definition their own entity, and not part of a larger organization, to bring them in is an individual endorsement as opposed to a professional responsibility, and in AA’s case, if he gives Tom an interview that Tom presents as part of an anti-Rogers screed, AA is the man in the organization that is liable for it.
Also, and this is the only time I will pull the professional card in relationship to blogs vs sports writers, most bloggers are not and have not been working journalists. Most do not and have not worked on a daily basis with the structure of fact-checkers and editors, dealt directly in all the various elements of liable, and have a thorough knowledge of law as it relates to the media and the professional journalistic ethics that are either part of the schooling or the first couple of years as a copyboy (or girl) for a professional journalist. When AA is told that the Globe and Mail are sending a writer over, he knows that the relationship between the team and the paper is already established and understood, and he knows in the chance that the writer attributes a bunch of nonsense to him, there’s a process in place to reverse it and collect on the damages to the club. With blogs, there are no such mechanisms and no such assurances, which is why it is a more difficult approach to make than it might seem.
Now, all that being said, I think it would be a great idea, since you could handle it through your media relations post and classify them as freelancers with specific conditions for the release of information. It would likely take a few weeks to draft up a contract and identify a few blogs that have both a certain standard of professionalism and activity to make it worthwhile, and issue them press credentials that way. I think the potential value would offset the minimal effort and risk involved.
by dexfarkin on Nov 20, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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