Tuesday Bantering: Arbitration, Greg Zaun and Today's Roy Halladay Rumors
So to the surprise of no one, the Jays have offered Marco Scutaro and Rod Barajas arbitration. It would be a surprise if either one accepted.
The Cubs didn't offer arbitration to Rich Harden, for anyone hopeful that the Jays might think about signing him. Two catchers have been told by their teams they won't be getting an arbitration offer Yorvit Torrealba of the Rockies and Miguel Olivo of the Royals.
You can take a name off the list of possible Jay catchers for next season, Kelly Shoppach was traded by the Indians to the Rays.
Over at TSN.ca they had a conversation with Greg Zaun, who was here in Calgary for the Grey Cup (and he didn't give me a call). Among other things (he cheered for the Rough Riders, no accounting for taste) he said he figured he'd be signed by the end of this week and that there is more than one team interested in him.
Peter Gammons tells us that the Red Sox have asked Dustin Pedroia if he would be willing to move over to shortstop. The idea is that there are more second basemen available than shortstops. I think it is more of trying to suggest to Marco Scutaro that they really don't have to sign him. He also gives us this nugget:
They (the Red Sox) have not devoted much time to Roy Halladay, as the chances of trading Clay Buchholz and Casey Kelly are, at best, minimal.
I don't know how true that is, Gammons tends to work as a PR guy for the Sox more than being an actual reporter. Of course he wants us to think the Red Sox wouldn't trade anything of value for Doc.
Speaking of Doc, it's all over the place that Doc is setting a deadline for any trade. He wants to be traded during the off-season. Basically he's holding a gun to the team's head, 'trade me now or lose me as a free agent'. It really hurts the Jay's ability to negotiate, teams can stall and weaken our position more. I guess we'd better lower our expectations for what we might get back for Doc.
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Shoppach to Rays...
…I would like to see Dioner Navarro to Toronto. Might be non-tendered, certainly wouldn’t cost much.
Had a terrible year last year, but a great one the year before, and is young enough that there might be some untapped potential there.
by Jevant on Dec 1, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If there's a deadline for trading Doc, it's well before spring training
If Doc stays the Jays pretty much have to go for it this year, which means signing good players, which is hard to do once spring training starts. (Bobby Abreu and Manny Ramirez notwithstanding.)
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Dec 1, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Basically he’s holding a gun to the team’s head, ‘trade me now or lose me as a free agent’. It really hurts the Jay’s ability to negotiate, teams can stall and weaken our position more.
Rosenthal is saying Landry, Halladay’s actual agent, is saying that’s not the case.
by dexfarkin on Dec 1, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also
I still think that it won’t change all that much, as long as the Red Sox and Yankees are both involved. Neither should want the other to get him. And I think it’s a moot point. If he’s still on the Jays by Christmas, I will be very surprised.
by Jevant on Dec 1, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoehorning this in
Henry had some very intriguing ideas about fixing some of the market disparity in baseball.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/12/red_sox_owner_j.html
by dexfarkin on Dec 1, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have mixed feelings on Henry’s observations. He seems to have a beef that revenue sharing received by small market teams is being used to pad the wallets of ownership instead of being spent on compensation.
It is a difficult workaround. Even if you forced small market teams to spend the money on compensation, it would just drive wages up in larger markets, so the existing competitive imbalance from spending variances would persist. If the league opted to “claw back” subsidies from teams generating subsidy-inflated operating profits, teams could still circumvent that adjustment by boosting operating costs in proprietary suppliers. Bottom line, there will always be workaround so that equalization payments are misappropriated to uses inconsistent with the original intent.
If MLB wants to ensure that competitiveness on the field is based solely on shrewd organizational mgmt, than the only solution is to cap wages, (and perhaps also set a floor so that players do not feel aggrieved). In short, I would characterize Henry’s suggestion as perhaps a sincere attempt to address an abuse of the existing revenue-sharing program combined with a perhaps cynical ulterior motive of preserving the economic bi-product competitive advantage enjoyed by large market teams.
Consider it this way Henry. If there was a team compensation cap, the adverse impact on BoSox revenue from diminished competitiveness would probably not be as great as the salary savings the team would enjoy. In short, a salary cap would probably disproportionately benefit large team’s operating profit. As such, small market teams should support a salary cap for competitive reasons while large market teams should support a salary cap for monetary reasons.
by aagoodfella on Dec 1, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Course Henry lies too
While the Red Sox are in the 16th largest media market we’ve found a way to be very competitive even though we are funding other teams.
No they aren’t, the city of Boston isn’t that big true, but the surrounding area is one of the highest populated areas in the states. In real terms they are about the 5th largest market in baseball.
The trouble with a salary cap is it puts everything on the player’s shoulders. If you have a cap you have real revenue sharing too and then you’d have the owners come clean about all the revenues. That will never happen.
by Tom Dakers on Dec 1, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you guys get the blue box around quotes?
by siggian on Dec 2, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the little blue quote marks
Between the title line and the main body of the comment box there are 6 little icons. The blue quote marks is the one you want. Highlight what you want to quote and press that.
by Tom Dakers on Dec 2, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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