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A John Buck Scouting Report From Royals Review

I sent a note to Royalsreview from Royals Review (what are the odds?), SB Nation's Kansas City Royals blogs, asking for a scouting report on John Buck. Here is what he had to say:


Offensively, he's exactly what his numbers suggest: he's willing to take a pitch or work a count, and he has some power. The batting average is always going to be so low that it drags down a lot of his production, but for a catcher, he's not a bad option.

People are generally pretty down about his defense, specifically his ability to throw out baserunners. He's below average in that regard, but his numbers the last few years have been especially bad. Maybe that's something that will move closer to his career average, maybe he's declining. He threw out 33% of basestealers his first three seasons, then went under 20% the next three. My sense is that he's not great at it, but it's also not a situation where it was so bad that opposing teams gameplanned around it.

He slugged .484 as a backup last season, so its both a small sample, but also an impressive number. He's going to look very bad at times because thats what low batting average guys do. You'll be watching a game in July and a graphic will pop up that he's 1 for his last 32 or something. But I also think that he could be ready for a .250/.310/.480 career year.

As a personal thing, I think there is more to a catchers defense than throwing out baserunners, so if he handles pitchers well, I'll live with a poorer arm. If he pulled off that 'career year' I'd be thrilled. It compares very favorably to Rod Barajas .226/.258/.403. In fact he has never had a OPS+ as poor as Rod's 73 from last year. They seem fairly similar offensive players, Buck gets on a bit more, Rod might hit a couple more homers. Buck is younger, I would guess he'd have the better year next year. I'd also guess that Rod will get a bigger contract. 

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Bucking the trend...

I’d rather have Barajas – he knows the young pitchers – and in 2010 their development is the ONLY thing that is really going to matter going forward.

by Mylegacy on Dec 13, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

cost equal, I'd take Rod too

but for less money and the draft pick, I think I’d take Buck. The young Jays’ pitchers did great with Zaunnie in 2007 and 2008 so I’m not willing to chalk up their success to Barajas, but I agree with you that I really like his game behind the plate.

I also agree with Dakers that Buck is fairly likely to have a better season for less money and you never know when a 29-year old catcher will take a step forward offensively.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Dec 13, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that Arny is gone

Maybe our pitchers can stop injuring themselves.

HEADING STRAIGHT FOR THEM, I PRESS DOWN MAH GUNS!

by BenjiDoc on Dec 13, 2009 6:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Does anyone EVER review a catcher’s defense and mention SOME thing besides throwing out runners?

The truth is that VERY few game-deciding runs are scored in the course of any given season by runners who were not thrown out attempting to steal.

If you are on the fringe of contention…say the difference in 89-90 wins and 92-93 wins, then yeah – pay some attention to throwing out runners. Otherwise, screw it.

My kingdom for someone who discusses catcher defense and bothers to tell me how he blocks the plate, how he handles wild pitches and throws in the dirt, how he handles the pitchers and his working relationship with them…all VASTLY more important, imo, than picking off baserunners.

by TamRa on Dec 14, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

Well, Buck looks very much like a younger Zaun. He’s a very good gloveman, moves well enough behind the plate, and doesn’t get shorted too often with someone coming home. That’s about all I’ve got based on a couple of hours of KCR clips.

by dexfarkin on Dec 14, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Another take from a blogger at Royals Review

Q. Are you going to miss John Buck?

He will occassionaly hit a baseball a quarter mile, but other than that not really. You may get lucky and he will be rocking a kick ass mullet this year.

Buck will show flashes and you will be like how did this guy ever get let go, but then he will go on ridiculous cold stretches… But he at least he isn’t Jason f***ing Kendall… The Royals are making it impossible for me to be a baseball fan

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

blech, we already suffered through ridiculous cold stretches this year with Rod, JoBa, Overbay, Rios and Wells - painful to watch

MY KINGDOM for consistency

by aagoodfella on Dec 14, 2009 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

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