Monday Bantering: Winter Meetings
by Tom Dakers on Dec 7, 2009 10:57 AM EST
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PrintRumors are going to be hot and heavy this week, if you see a good one, or, you know, want to make up a good one, make use of the fanpost or fanshot areas. It should be an interesting week for us Jay fans. Not interesting in the way the Mariners week looks to be interesting, they will be announcing the signing of Chone Figgins today or tomorrow and are talking to Jason Bay.
In Hall of Fame news, the Veteran's committee has announce former Royals and Cardinals manager Whitey Herzog and long time umpire Doug Harvey have been elected to the Hall. Apparently Marvin Miller missed out by two votes. There is no rational reason Miller shouldn't be in, other than the owners hate him.
Richard Griffin manages to take more shots at JP Richardi (he's gone, can we get off of that) complaining that JP was too public about Roy Halladay trade negociations, while Alex Anthopoulos is doing it right by not talking. Then he says:
The Red Sox are downplaying their participation because the more public it is the more the Yankees try to drive up the price of doing business for Sox GM Theo Epstein.
Which one is it? Is it best for us to keep things quiet or is it best for our trading partners to keep things quiet. Let's pick a side.
Richard lists the potential Doc destinations as Red Sox, Yankees, Angels, Phillies, Mets and Dodgers. He figures the Cardinals, Cubs and Rangers still have a shot and that the Brewers, Astros, Rockies and White Sox are "long-shots".
Bob Elliot in the Sun reports that the Jays have budgeted $16 million for signing players from next June's draft.
This summer the Jays spent $4.895 million in signing bonuses. In 2008, the Jays spent $4.359 million. The Washington Nationals were the biggest spenders this summer forking out $11.511 million in bonuses, while the Kansas City Royals spent $11.148 million in 2008.
Since we have up to 9 picks in the first 3 rounds that money could come in handy, though it seems like overkill since we don't have the first pick, but hopefully it means we won't miss out on signing a draft choice because we don't want to spend an extra $100,000.
The National Post has a piece on Paul Beeston, again with the promise the team will spend more on payroll in that mythical future they keep telling us about. I'm in the 'I'll believe it when it happens club'.
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$16 million next year…it’s always bloody next year. Where was the money to sign guys this year??? This is one strange franchise.
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Wow
That seems bizarre. $5 million more than the Nats this last year?
I guess it’s a good sign. I would probably prefer $5 million of that go to making sure the guys you draft are the guys you want though.
Richard Griffin
Is one of the worst writers out there, and one of the most annoying. Entertaining on occasion, I guess, but blah. What a piece of work.
I am not a big fan of a measurement process that quantifies success on how much money is spent. Other than the Jays, the only other organizations that I think of who use this measurement basis are governments. Personally, every time govts spend, I cringe cuz I know it means more taxes, more debt and slower economic growth, none of which I like. Bottom line, folks should not focus so much on how much the Jays spend as much as how much talent they accumulate. Maybe we can look at batting average per dollar spent or something of that nature, LOL.
no politics please
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Seems that Scoots was offered more $$$ by Oakland
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/12/05/the_shortstop_whole/
…The deal got done before the winter meetings because there was another team in hot pursuit. That team – the A’s – nearly stole Scutaro.
"There was a team that was making a real good offer, but I can say this, I took a little less money just to come here, to have a chance to win a ring,’’ Scutaro said yesterday.
Totally Unsubstantiated Rumour
This is something I came up with but what about a potential Doc to Seattle deal? Seattle seems willing to spend this off-season in an attempt to capture the AL West and Felix and Doc in the same rotation would be scary!
A deal centring around SP Brandon Morrow plus a combination of this group of prospects; Canadian born OF Michael Saunders and RP Phillipe Aumont, SS Carlos Triunfel, 3B Alex Liddi or OF prospect Greg Halman could be enough to get a deal done.
Would Doc accept a deal to Seattle?
Is the package enough?
If Seattle doesn’t land Bay, I wouldn’t necessarily see them not being willing to go whole hog. Actually, even if they land Bay, they might like the idea of a one year trade, and go nasty pitching wise into 2010. Angels and Rangers would be vulnerable.
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