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Game Thread for Spring Game Jays and Reds

Happy Sunday everyone, or beware the Ides of March....one or the other. Jays play the Reds today and the game is on Gameday Audio if you want to listen in and join us in the thread. I keep hoping Sportsnet will show us the odd spring game, maybe after the WBC is over. Speaking of which....

The USA team got mercied by Puerto Rico last night. I'm sure when they put the mercy rule in they didn't expect the US to be the victim of it. Jake Peavey did not look good and hasn't looked good at all in the tournament. If I was the Padres I'd be worried and/or wishing I had pulled the trigger on a trade this winter. Alex Rios went 0 for 3 but drove in a run with a sac fly. Tonight the US plays the Netherlands, the loser is out of the tournament. Shouldn't be a problem for the US, Holland used their best pitcher yesterday, Sidney Ponson, and aren't exactly deep, but they have been playing good baseball. That one is on Sportsnet at 7:30 Eastern.

In Jay news, there is a story on MLB.com saying that Cito figures to cut down the candidates for the starting rotation in the next week. He said good things about Casey Janssen and mentioned that Scott Richmond is a bit behind because of the WBC. He also said that Clement could start the season in the minors to give him more time to rebah the arm. But what caught my eye was:

If the Blue Jays decide to hand one of the jobs to one of the club's prospects, Mills would probably be the top choice at the moment. Not only did Mills log more innings than Cecil in the Minors last spring, likely giving him a higher innings limit this year, but the left-hander has out-performed Cecil up to this point, in Gaston's mind.

Gaston wouldn't say whether that meant Mills had passed Cecil in the race for a job.

"I would say Mills has pitched better," Gaston said. "As far as passing one or the other, I'm still going to hold that back for a bit, but he has pitched a little better than Cecil."

I still have a hard time believing we'll be using a starter that hasn't pitched above Double A and only had a handful of starts there. But then I'm not Cito.

There was also a story in the Toronto Star by Morgan Campbell with some nice words about Justin Jackson, saying that he has filled out some from last year and he is swinging the bat with more power. That's nice to hear. He'll start the year a A-ball Dunedin but hopefully will take a step or two up this year.

It also mentioned that Cito is trying guys out at short but the line that caught me was:

No, he wasn't necessarily looking to jettison incumbent starter John McDonald. Yes, he's considering using Joe Inglett at short sometimes. Yes, he would use Jose Bautista there even though he has never played the position at the major-league level.

McDonald's the incumbent? Didn't Marco Scutaro take the job last year? Oh well, it is not like I'm always right either, but isn't there an editor at the Star? My feeling is that McDonald doesn't hit enough for even the back up job and that his defense slipped a lot last year, to the point where he was just an average defensive shortstop. With his bat he has to be Ozzie Smith to be worth carrying.I am a bit worried that Inglett will be sent down as he has a option left.

Anyway, today's Jay lineup:

Joe Inglett SS

Russ Adams LF

Jose Bautista CF

Kevin Millar 1B

Scott Rolen 3B

Jason Land DH (come on Jason, a couple of hits) (no pressure)

Travis Snider RF (can't he move up a bit in the order?)

Michael Barrett (C)

Brad Emaus 2B

Brad Mill P

Join us in the Thread, I will be here for the start but the boy has hockey, so will be leaving after the first 2 or 3 innings.

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inglett SS, Hill 2B, Bautista CF, Millar 1B, Rolen 3B, Lane DH, Snider RF, Barrett C, Adams LF

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how is Mills doing so far?

just got on

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

never seen his move

but he is the kind of pitcher that would have a very good one

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

had a good run this morning, playdate with two of Anna’s friends, and now the game and some work. You?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm good....I should have a run but is -5 here and slippery....will get to the gym later....

boy has hockey later.

 I think we ought to print that nice comment from yesterday and frame it….

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I do wonder with 500-600 visits a day but few comments how many people just read but never say anything

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah is funny....

we’ve had quite a jump in visits, but hasn’t brought up the comments so much. I’m thinking as the season gets started we’ll have more comments…

What gets me sometimes is there will be a number of people in the game thread just watching….I keep thinking, it is more fun if you join in.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it takes new folks a little while to start posting

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you don't want your first post to be about how Royce Clayton is a good looking SS prospect

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

no that was my brother’s first post. He was kidding, but I don’t think that was clear to the 4 or 5 people that jumped on him for saying so.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Course my brother hasn't commented again.....

though I see he comes on just about every day

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me neither

It might’ve been about how the Jays shouldn’t try to resign Frank Catalanotto or Justin Speier

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think my first post was on player name anagrams

and it was that Shaun Marcum was an anagram of something impolite.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get the game audio so unfortunately I can't comment on the games....

but I really enjoy reading the banter in the threads….it’s quite enjoyable!! I find that I like reading the comments as much as I enjoy watching the game itself.

by Carm on Mar 15, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

it is fun having the game threads, I agree. Way better than me yelling at the TV by myself

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mills gets the K

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Mags will be lucky not to go down

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

in the early 90s was the last time I think

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I was a kid I'd always look for where they were in the standing in the paper....

course games weren’t on tv. Was about the only connection, for me, to where my Dad was born. I would get annuals from my grandparents at christmas generally about soccer.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rovers aren't looking too hot

loss to arsenal 4 nil

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Mar 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we tied Hull City yesterday.

was a nice goal, but won’t be enough to keep us up with matches against Arsenal and Chelsea upcoming

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lane flies out.....

I think I’m falling out of love…..

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mills gets the first out.

I still have a hard time believing that they are seriously thinking he could start the season with the team.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if you notice

Cito seems serious about it, but Ricciardi less so

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean,

Litsch was a guy where people basically were saying that he was brought up very fast and thrown right into the fire, and he had almost an entire season in AA over what Mills has. Unless you put a ton of stock in spring training, which I don’t

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah would be tough to put him in the rotation

off 30 spring innings….no matter how good.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figure now that Cecil and Maroth have been assigned to minor league camp

that it’s basically Janssen and Clement, with Richmond as the longshot. Mills will probably get assigned after today’s game.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that makes sense

Janssen will have to keep showing he is ready though – if he has any setback or soreness, he will probably get slowed down and Richmond will start while Casey goes to AAA.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he might provide more with the bat than Inglett could

though Inglett is a lot more reliable on defense

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of commercials in bad taste....have the NY Rangers game on

and they had a Go Daddy add….tho I don’t mind it so much

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my ranger hate

goes even beyond my yankee or red sox hate

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees is number 1 for me...

Maple Leafs is number 2 tho I try not to say it on here too often……and the leafs have been awful for so long it isn’t worth hating….and Man U…..

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mills still at it

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so how about the US

getting smoked by Puerto Rico yesterday?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't either

I had forgotten about it and once I had listened to the Jays game and then watched the Toon, I wasn’t getting away with any more sports watching last night

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mine doesn't read the site

so I don’t have to say stuff like that, haha

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh I get told once in a while....

“you had time to make 3 posts today”

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sounding like Inglett

is doing too well at Short

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is seeming

pretty similar to Janssen’s outing yesterday

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who pitches after Mills?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mills comes back with the K

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mills

walks in a run. 5th walk of the day. that’s not going to do it in the bigs…

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

then a wild pitch to send him to second

but I’m running out of time….have to get a boy moving in a bit….

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cmon

Moonraker

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there it is!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

though I don’t bet on sports.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

enjoy the game!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hayhurst is in

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and

Dirk strikes out the side to work around the Votto double! 12 Ks, 0 walks for an undefined K/BB ratio. Dirk! Dirk! Dirk!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he keeps pitching like that

might have to change the title of his blog

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Mar 15, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

that indian fan was getting pretty ridiculous about roberto alomar

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Mar 15, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he seemed to think that spitting in someone's face

was like, a normal way of reacting to being called a bad name

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well from the team's perspective

it’s better than tearing up your knee.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's very true

tearing your ACL is pretty much never a good response to anything

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're talking about

milton bradley now?

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Mar 15, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a counterpoint to Alomar

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured

just wanted to make sure I wasn’t getting mixed up.

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on Mar 15, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lane hits his fourth bomb

Tao will be pleased.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are they Lane fans

like Rince?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

any chance Frasor

doesn’t make the team? I figure he’ll make it unless the Jays find someone to trade him to.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Accardo still have an option?

They’ve both been not great, IIRC. At least Accardo has the excuse the he’s rusty. Frasor’s only good when he’s rusty. Also, who do you see being the long man? I liked Tallet in that role because of his neutral platoon splits, which isn’t what you want in a LOOGY unless you think they’ll pinch hit.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 15, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think Tallet's the guy for that

Accardo has gone for so long without regular work that it’s understandable he hasn’t been great. the Jays seem pretty happy with his stuff. Also, I doubt he’s been throwing many splitters yet, and that’s his out pitch

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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