Game Thread Yankees and Jays
by Tom Dakers on Mar 19, 2009 6:12 PM EDT
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PrintJays play the Yankees tonight and the game is on MLB.TV at 7:15 Eastern. Casey Janssen is to start for the Jays while A.J. Burnett goes out there for the Yankees. I'm in and out all night tonight, so first chance to actually see the Jays play and I'll miss most of it. If you are around drop into the game thread. We've had fun in the pre-season threads so far, even though we've just been listening to the games.
Baseball Prospectus has their list of 'Organizational Ranking' out and our Jays are 10th on their list. The 10th ranking is mostly on the strength of Moonraker (Travis Snider) and JP Arencibia and our pitching prospects. One line I liked:
Arencibia might not be aware of the rule that allows one to take a base if four balls are thrown to him outside the strike zone
Hopefully he will learn soon.
I wanted to put up the line ups for tonight's game but they haven't appeared yet. If they do before I have to run out of here, I'll add them in.
Inglett RF
Hill 2B
Lind DH
Overbay 1B
Lane CF
Bautista LF
Campbell 3B
Chavez C
McDonald SS
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In all seriousness
If Arencibia doesn’t know that rule, he’s going to be a terrible game caller.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Mostly as a result of the minor league game this will turn into in the 5th or so?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
the YES network
makes me angry every time I watch it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
After the game
Yankeeography: A. J. Burnett.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
looking forward to some ball
after a ridiculously long day
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not much fun being a lawyer
when clients won’t listen to your advice. Sort of looking forward to getting back in the courtroom at the end of the month, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Inglett first pitch triple
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Inglett with a nice leadoff triple into the gap
first pitch swinging
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
There's talk about the Astros trading for Bautista as a replacement for Boone
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
if they want to pay him
that’d work for me
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Lind draws the walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
his walk numbers
in the minors weren’t too bad. I’m hoping that this season he settles in and gets back to that approach. He swung at too many pitches outside the strike zone last season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Lyle
rolls over on the 3-2 pitch
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Janssen
gets Posada to fly out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not that 2-0 changeup
thank God, you can pretty much kiss a high 2-0 changeup good bye
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Janssen walks Damon
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Swisher
singles Damon over to third
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the only thing with cutting Mac
is it leaves us super thin at SS. Hill might have to move over if anything happened to Marco
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Hill could always move over
I guess
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'd agree with that
Neither Richmond nor Janssen have been disasters, but neither has really looked great either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not looking sharp either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
actually arnsberg is out
doesn’t look good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
And Mills
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
could just be precautionary
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
true
I’m not too worried if he has to start in AAA and take some time to get himself ready. Just hoping it wasn’t a serious setback
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah....
I didn’t see anything that looked like he was really hurting….but he wasn’t hitting targets
his arm looked tight or sore or something
all those pitches left up
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Oh good, an A ball pitcher
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
nope
it’s burres.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
haha
not correcting your spelling, just pointing out it wasn’t the A ball guy, but you beat me to it by a second
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Estanga had
good numbers last year
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
burres is getting ridiculously lucky
that pitch was horrible
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yankee announcers
say Janssen left with shoulder tightness.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Bautista grounds out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Only productive because of the wild pitch
Otherwise it’s probably a double play
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
what do you mean? far from the majors?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Would've made AAA last year on his bat
but stayed in AA to work on his glove
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
yeah
probably not too far – he’s held his own this spring. Needs a position though. Jays say they like him at 2nd, but Hill is entrenched there – so they’ve been working him at third this spring, probably to see whether he would be able to come up and play if Rolen goes down
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Definitely better to have Adams blocked than Campbell
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I don't think so
he’s got the arm for it, I think, but if there are questions about his d at 2nd, probably not
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he should be fine to play third, I'd think
though he doesn’t have the power to play there, at least, not yet
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
How much power he needs depends on his defence anyways
Average wOBA for a 3B is the same as for a 2B.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I agree
you don’t need to hit 25 home runs to play third base, but for whatever reason people seem to think you do. Campbell has the bat for third, in my opinion, if his on base numbers from the minors hold up and he can hack it there defensively
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
If it was an experience thing rather than a talent thing
then SS could still be a possibility, but of course getting enough experience to play short would take a while.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
The guy making the graphic
and the announcers disagreed on that point
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Campbell
with the RBI groundout
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Chavez
clears J-Mac
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Johnny Mac trying to put A.J. on the DL
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Burnett
can’t locate the curve at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Wells
Rios, and Barajas will play tomorrow
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
according to Bastian
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
bad bunt
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that was poor
outfielding by Bautista
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
probably by May
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Because the outcome matters so much?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
he is the worst
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Burres is terrible
but we need someone to pitch the game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
what the YES announcers say about our rotation
matters even less than who wins this game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
no personal attacks on the site
if you have a problem with someone, feel free to e-mail rince or I about it or take up the content, not the person. those comments/posts will be deleted
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
a little ribbing is fine,
but c’mon
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the first time you said it
not the 2nd through 6th time you posted the same thing.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
anyway, let's drop it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
a little not -so bad news
Bastian says Casey just had trouble loosening up today and had some right lateral muscle tightness. if that’s true, who knows, he probably will have to back off and won’t break camp with the team, but could still be on track for May-ish
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
quick inning for A.J.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you have e-mail
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the Janssen thing doesn't sound too terrible
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Burres is atrocious though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Burres
continues to ruin his chances of making AAA
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I would rather chew off one of my fingers than eat
anything from McDonalds, but I like this commercial, I have to say
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't think we need to see it every commercial break, though
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Or that dumb Avis commercial
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I like the music
I have to say, though I agree with you it will get annoying quickly if they keep showing it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Campbell
draws the 4-pitch walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Blair
says janssen will be checked out tomorrow, no MRI scheduled yet
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Raul
hits into a double play to end the rally. That’s the sort of thing we can look forward to every 5th day if he makes the team
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Even Thigpen has to be ahead of Chavez at this point, right?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I would hope, but
the reporters say Chavez is still in the lead, at least last I’ve seen
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
We now return to our regularly scheduled tune-up
for players who will make the team.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
He flubbed one before
turned it into a triple. I’d put Inglett in center before him if both Rios and Wells were unavailable.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Bautista not making a case for any outfield position.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Bautista is
a lousy outfielder too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
The Yankees announcers are salivating over Doc now
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
if Doc becomes a Yankee
now that will make me sad
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
getting a little hard
to judge the pitchers with this crappy fielding the past few days
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Hill draws the walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
chance for Lyle
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he walks to load the bases
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
It's so easy to forget he started late because of those hernias
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
We have to remember that when Wells comes back
We’ll cheer him for a few days, then we’ll start whining about how he’s not hitting.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I love Wells
but I do sometimes feel like I’m in the minority
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
moving to rightfield or DHing once or twice a week would help
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Or left and shift Snider to right
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
that'd be fine too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Once in a while? Maybe
Hard to see it happening full time.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I agree with that
also, if Wells asks for it, I could see Cito doing it, if not, probably not
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
there it is
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
another walk
loads them
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yankees having trouble selling the expensive seats
that were supposed to make their new stadium a cash cow
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
we had the same thing in DC
couldn’t get rid of the most expensive seats. different reason though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
in our case
it was because they changed the lobbying rules, and you couldn’t give a Congressman anything that cost more than $50 bucks. What’s the point in buying expensive corporate box seats if you can’t bribe congressmen with it?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Also, the team isn't as good.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
wouldn't be the worst use
of it I’ve seen
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I notice a lot of quit smoking ads during yankee games
when the mlb.tv feed keeps the commercials in.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
one thing I always notice is
the ridiculous amount of ED pills in the american feeds, but never on the Jays feed. and always funny to see them advertise the beer prices in the Jays’ feed, since you’re not allowed to advertise that in the US
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good second inning for Purcey
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
actually
I was posting that about the last inning – for some reason it took forever to post
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
great to see him throwing strikes
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Looked like he lost his focus against Barroa
but got it back in time.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
yeah
that was a problem for him last season too. Of course, against a really good hitter you can’t afford to do that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that makes sense
since while Millar spent all of ‘08 in the majors, Lane spent it in the minors so it’s not like he had any leverage in negotiating his minor league deal
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Did he get released then?
How did he end up a free agent with options?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
yeah he signed a minor league contract.....
I’m sure tho if he was offered a major league job the Jay’s wouldn’t stand in his way.
Yeah, that's what I figured
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
right
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Shoffit's getting a lot of playing time for a guy who was in A+ ball last year
Do you figure he’s gone once Rios and/or Wellsa are back?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
yeah probably
Emaus has gotten a lot of playing time too, and he was at Dunedin as well. The Jays seem to like Shoffit quite a bit.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Shoffit was a 2B for 3 years
only last year they moved him to the outfield.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Better than Ahrens on the grounder preceding it
Purcey was due for the misplays in the outfield to even out.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Assuming we unload McDonald?
Scutaro and our AAA shortstop?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I wonder
if anyone else will take a shot at him. There are teams where he’d be an upgrade, or at least couldn’t hurt
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Not that Adams would be the shortstop in that situation
I just don’t think we’d put Inglett at short every day unless our AAA SS was out too, and if we put Inglett there then we’d call up Adams as the replacement utility man.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
even in that scenario
his window is small. Campbell could pass him in that role sometime this season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
If we project Campbell to be an everyday player at some point
then I don’t think we’d call him up to be a super sub and keep him from getting his daily reps.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Whether it's Inglett or Bautista
I’m mentally trading Bautista to the Astros already
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
$2M on opening day is $6M at the trade deadline
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
Salary relief?
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
AA filler or something
to make it look like a trade
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I like Wilner a lot
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
ok fellas
I’m done for the night. thursday night movie time for me and mrs. hugo
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
hope Casey is ok, good showing from Purcey
good night all!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
That's the good thing to come out of this game
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
I guess Lane's 2 run double counts too.
"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"
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