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Game Thread for Jays and Pirates

A bit slow getting this up. Jays made a couple of moves today, trading Curtis Thigpen to Oakland and releasing Mike Maroth and Rick Bauer (not Brian Burres as I said earlier). Maroth is no surprise, with a knee that needs surgery, he really wasn't going to make it back to the majors.

Doc is pitching for us tonight, he's had a couple of less than great starts his last two times out but apparently is working on a pitch.

Jays Lineup:

Marco Scutaro SS

Brad Emaus 2B

Alex Rios RF

Vernon Wells CF

Lyle Overbay 1B

Scott Rolen 3B

Rod Barajas C

Travis Snider LF

Howie Clark DH

I'll be here for the start of the game but have to leave before it is over.Join me if you are can.

 

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8 pitch at bat

Hitter was showing bunt on the first two pitches, both balls… you’d think the element of surprise would be gone after the first time.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a humpback liner

caught by Emaus

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen gets a single....

sounds like a texas leaguer

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Barajas line drive caught by the third baseman....

by the crowd reaction must have been a good play…interrupted the announcers talking about the lottery

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey hey

just got home from work

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why's that

I mean?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

well, since you play the drums, you’re my hero. so by the transitive property, you’re your son’s hero, that’s got to feel pretty good

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is sort of like my guitars....

I tell people I own guitars, I don’t claim that I play well

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I wish I played guitar better. Violin too. I just don’t get enough time to practice- it’s hard enough to keep from getting worse, forget about getting better

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that I have a place

I’m wondering if I should get a piano. I stopped playing about 15 years ago when my teacher needed eye surgery, but even to that point I hadn’t been practicing because my keyboard (which wasn’t pressure sensitive to begin with) broke.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh everyone should have musical instruments....

we have a much around. Keyboard, bunch of guitars, a bass, ukeleli, drums….

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the plastic drums that came with Guitar Hero

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

people keep trying to sell me on that game...

I keep saying ‘but I have a guitar……’

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got some guitars and a bass

a violin, clarinet, and an old autoharp I wish I could play but can’t.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a bit, yeah

wish I could play it better. I picked it up trying to emulate Einstein; failed at that effort in many, many ways

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, now that I've got a house and space I'd love to get a piano.

I’ve never had one so I never really learned to play, but I can read music and knock out chords or pick out a melody, so I don’t think it would take terribly long to learn to play reasonably well. I just haven’t mastered the two-handed thing

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as you enjoy yourself....

Doesn’t matter how well you play!! And I’m thinking you’re likely being a bit modest……

by Carm on Mar 27, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no I'm not.....

I sort of know how to hold the guitar and I can find chords if I need to. The drums….I can hold the sticks, I’m good at posing

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, if you say so

But I’m thinking I should look you up the next time I’m in Calgary and see for myself……

by Carm on Mar 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok....

hugo you want to tell her why guys learn to play guitar?

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not paying attention....

every male guitar player learned to play for one reason alone….

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot tell a lie

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howie Clark DH

If you needed proof this was a spring training game.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like he swung pretty poorly for a 3-1 count

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emaus homers with 2 outs

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he can really hit

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates radio guys

complaining about the Jays using a DH.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen draws the walk

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went to the bathroom

and came back in time to hear the third out.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to make a fake movie poster for that

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great idea

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

though

I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen that movie

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only is it terrible

it makes every subsequent Bond movie terrible because they don’t use the lasers.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the Living Daylights

Casino Royale, and Dr. No. Haven’t liked any of the others so far

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated the last one....

course my wife liked it….

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was pretty dumb myself

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or sell cocaine that one time

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.....

just seemed….when it looked like oil they were stealing, I thought ‘come on’ then it was water….oil would ahve been a step up. oh well my wife loves ummmmm what’s his name…bond

by Tom Dakers on Mar 27, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Emaus ground rule double

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Emaus=hitting machine

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rios sac fly

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah definitely

also proud that he is a fellow former Green Wave

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Campbell has shown well

but Emaus has really been crushing it. Great to see the Jays finally developing some infielders close to the majors. Hill was a while ago now…

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just worred there is no where to play Emaus

I hope he’s not the guy that they trade for Hu or whatever ss they are reportedly trying to get right now.

by ClintB on Mar 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would be happy if they got Hu

I’ve been advocating for it for quite a while. But it shouldn’t cost Emaus, I wouldn’t think

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could well be the guy

to take over for Rolen

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true but it may just take some time to get used to the position

Campbell really struggled his first action at third base too, but I’ve heard he has looked pretty good there this spring.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they kind find a taker for Rolen

at some point this year, I wonder who we’ll see there, Campbell or Emaus?

by ClintB on Mar 27, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they should trade Rolen

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I don't think they'll find anyone who wants him

and is willing to pay enough of his salary to make it worth anything

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a catch-22

if Rolen has enough trade value to make him worth moving, it means he’s healthy and hitting and that makes him well worth what’s left on his contract.

Though if Emaus shows he’s for real and Campbell progresses as well, you could make the case that the Jays would get good cheap production from those two and could use the money they saved on Rolen elsewhere.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

though that's not actually a catch-22

as it’s a good result for the Jays.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking more to extend Doc

but yeah, that’s the problem

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the money we're paying Rolen

is on the books for the same years we have Doc under contract for.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, yeah

but it’s not a government agency, the money doesn’t disappear if you don’t use it by the end of the year

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of it does

to inflation.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's true

it could be invested to account for inflation, but that hasn’t exactly been a money-maker recently

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

It’s easy to forget to give it back.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But where else is there we could spend it

apart from maybe eating Overbay’s contract and putting Delgado at first next year? Everyone we could have signed this year wanted a multi-year deal and would have blocked someone we wanted in the lineup next year, if not this year.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the draft, for one

going over slot. international scouting, for another.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$12M is an awful lot to spend on the draft

Maybe if we had a first round pick from Burnett leaving.

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how worried are we about him?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that teenage girl

who pitches in Japan had a K in her first pro appearance.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was her appearance successful apart from that?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

she walked the first guy

and struck out the second. That was it

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

same old doc

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoffit goes oppo

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoffitt play amazing cf, if he can hit a little,

he’d be an excellent 4th outfielder for 2010

by ClintB on Mar 27, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

has some trouble making contact

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AA

will be a test for him. No different than it is for most though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JP said Shoffitt has reworked his swing with excellent results,

and they are really high on him this year. See if it sticks during the regular season is the big question though.

by ClintB on Mar 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

you can tell they really like him

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beej in

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"he looks like a guy who has had a tendon replaced in his elbow"

“or a ligament, whatever it is”

hahah

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a ligament replaced with a tendon?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A hard hit ball and a walk

Lucky to have 1 out right now

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And now a hard hit comebacker

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gets out of the inning though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

if he has a mechanical problem, he may be healthy now but he could end up hurting himself

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's a mechanical problem

shouldn’t it be showing up on video?

"He almost has to start. Do you believe in miracles?"

by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, you would think

I wonder if Ryan’s delivery is so weird, it might not be so easy to see

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was there really

no one better to use these 4 DH at-bats on than Howie Clark?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nobody who wanted to get on the bus

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by Torgen on Mar 27, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's true

seems like he’s got quite a bit of work to do. I didn’t get to see him hit, but sounds like he really needs to work on pitch recognition. I was worried they would rush him, so I was glad when they signed Barrett and now it seems like he’ll get the time he needs

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wolfe in

gives up a quick single

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

comes back with the K

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh announcers were elated when Wolfe came in

They said here’s a guy we can make a come back on with his 19.64 era this year.

by ClintB on Mar 27, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

didn't get what they wanted

Wolfe gave up the single but came back well with the K, the groundout, and the popup. Jays win!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

movie time for myself and Mrs. Hugo

have a great night all!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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