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Doc Beats Burnett and Yankees

Yankees 1 Jays 5

Well that was darn near exactly what I wanted to see. Darn near. I think AJ's arm is still attached to his body but other than that, it was just great. Both Doc and AJ pitched well, Doc just pitched better. Much better. Doc had a complete game 5 hitter, on just 103 pitches. He got 16 ground outs to 5 fly outs as well as 5 k's. He did allow 1 run and he was helped out by some terrific defense.

I know Snider isn't much of an outfielder but he made a heck of a play on a single that Johnny Damon hit in the 1st inning, Damon tryed to stretch it into a double but Snider made a perfect throw and Damon was out at second.

Offensively we didn't do a lot but we did enough. 8 hits, 4 walks. Stars were Scott Rolen with 3 hits, a double and 3 RBI, Aaron Hill had 2 hits, with a homer and Alex Rios had a hit, a walk and 2 runs.Jamie Campbell made a big deal about how Rolen was 0-18 against AJ before getting his first hit tonight but it must have been a few years since they last faced each other, they are both different players now and really 0-18 is very small sample size.

Jays of the Day are Doc (.405 WPA), Rolen (.191) and Lind (.094). Honorable mention to Snider for that throw, Hill for the homer and Rios. No Suckage Jays, though Overbay came close at -.089.

I don't think I ever have wanted a win so much. I'm not really sure why, I really don't hold any special grudge to AJ, who of us wouldn't have jumped ship for that much money. But man I wanted Doc to get that win and he did and he was just amazing. He faced the minimum until the 7th inning. He really is the best in baseball, he's now 7-1!

Winner of the closest to the final score is Brouhaha, he guessed 4-1 so he was only off by 1 run, sorry I don't have a prize for you.

In other Jays new...BJ Ryan is almost ready to return but not as closer apparently. And Casey Janssen pitched 6 strong innings tonight in New Hampshire for the Double-A Fisher Cats (and people think the Edmonton Cracker Cats is a dumb name) (yeah they are right too). He gave up 4 hits and struck out 5. I think we'll be seeing him soon too.

Best news? Jays are 23-12 and in 1st place, 1.5 games up on the Red Sox pending their game with the Angels tonight. Go Weaver. And the Yankees, they are 6.5 back. Oh and other good news, there was a great crowd in Toronto, 43,737 strong and loud. Hope it carries over.

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That crowd looked awesome and they were hanging on every pitch, cheering the balls and booing the strikes.. Granted I know that is a bit crazy but usually when we see that much of a walk up crowd it can be kinda split 50/50 pro Yankee/ pro Jay. This crowd was very obviously pro Jay and it was great.

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 12, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just came back from it

One of the best I have ever seen
This is my first post here
and all i have to say is
GO JAYS

It's Like Rooting For The Toilet To Flush....

by Toronto? on May 12, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Game

Yea, I was at that game and the crowd was awesome. They were just plain relentless on AJ. First the fans booed him loudly throughout the first two innings. Than occasionally the crowed resonated with “AJ sucks, AJ sucks”. For the middle and late inning the crowd was taunting “ayyy - jayyy, ayy — jayy”. He really got it good.

On the field AJ pitched a decent game. The Jays were able to capitalize on the walks he gave up in the fourth. Other than that, he was pretty tight (although he was whacked for alot of long flyballs). It would have been nice if he could have stuck around with the Jays, but apparently it was not meant to be. Too bad AJ never got some props for his legacy contribution to the Jays tonight but the fans were ruthless – which is ok, this helps to boost the home win-loss record. But maybe AJ is not completely about money; as he was walking off the field I saw him sneak a peak from under his brim toward the Jay dugout and gave a slight wave of his hand — not sure if it was to Rolen warming up to hit, to Cito, the bench in general or maybe to Halladay, but there was some acknowledgment.

A-rod also got rough treatment by the fans (boo’d vociferously), but he has lots of history with the Jays from last year. His name is mud in TO. LOL During pre-game batting practice, A-Rod was looking strong. He dinged one off a tv camera in the center field bleachers – he does have power. Matsui was not looking great in pre-game batting practice … maybe that is why they pinch-hit for him after only one turn at bat.

Halladay was absolutely stellar. I think this was his best outing of the year. His pitch counts for the first 3-4 innings were just ridiculously low.

Rios really seems to be coming out of his funk. He had an opening double, two good outs (a long fly ball and a nice shot to right) and a walk — which he later capitalized on with his speed on either a steal or hit / run play (could not really tell for sure).

Wells may be in a slump. Yikes.

The fans boo’d when it was announced that Ryan will be back … although not as the closer. I am not sure what role they intend for Ryan. Personally, I am not a Ryan hater as he is very effective when he is on, although, not as consistent as what is typically expected of a closer. I wonder if they could have platoon closers? (Ryan and Downs)

Snider is slowly chipping away out of his slump. There is still some issues with managing his way through pitch selection and working his way through the count (easy to say from the seats … LOL), but he did get another hit.

As always … Jays look great.

by aagoodfella on May 13, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if they could have platoon closers? (Ryan and Downs)

Would they really have a platoon with two lefties?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you need a 1 run save = Downs, 3-4 runs save = BJ

lol that’s all I could think of.

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by achengy on May 13, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two Lefties Better Than One?

Your observation about platooning two lefties as closers is probably right (lol – no pun). I am thinking more in terms of relieving Downs. Sometimes when he gets used alot, over a series of games, he seems to get worn out and than gets tagged by opposing hitting. So if you platoon them, perhaps it would address tired pitching. But for sure, a rightie and leftie would be even better.

Still, bullpen effectivess is not something the Jays should really be complaining about.

by aagoodfella on May 13, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snider

I wouldn’t say he is out of his slump. Then again, I don’t really call it a slump. Lets call it the Rookie blues.
He struck out twice and looked awful. The hit was a pitch that fooled him that he blooped into the oposite field. While the other 8 guys are hitting really well, maybe its good to keep him in there, at the same time Bautista and Millar are sitting…

I don’t know what the answer is. Hopefully the kid has a good head on his shoulders and won’t let these struggles affect him.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on May 13, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game

in the 500 level beside the Right Field foul poll. Was a ton of fun. It was actually hard to get the wave going since all the fans were too into the game.

Definitely one of the better experiences. I’m surprised it wasn’t a complete sell out as it was packed, especially the 500 level.

There were only a few Yankee fans scattered in the crowd but yeah, they were quiet in comparison :).

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by achengy on May 13, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad to hear that the Yankee fans were drowned out – people are starting to get excited about the Jays this year and actually show up to games in good numbers.

by Fleet Fox on May 13, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great game today

Unfortunately, the Sox just scored two in the eighth to tie their game with the Angels.

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by adamgreuel on May 13, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seeing some of these terrible bullpens (Angels, Yanks, Indians)

It makes me really appreciate ours. Generally, the started needs 6 solid innings, and the game is over. Generally.

If you are reading this Bo Junior, feel free to take your time.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on May 13, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

watched the game after I got back from the gig, and was it ever a great one! Doc was masterful; I figured he’d be great but somehow I underestimated just how great. The defense stepped up for him too; he got 16 outs on the ground, which is the way to do it with our infield defense.

Our hitting, well, it wasn’t fantastic but Burnett is a very good pitcher and we really made him pay for those walks to Wells and Lind in the 4th, thanks to a great bit of hitting by Rolen.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 13, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great D

yea, Hugo you are right. The D was un-heralded, other than your comment, and they really were great. Put out at second, nice grab by Hill, inning ending DP and a nice grab by Overbay among the highlights.

Rolen’s offensive performance was all the more impressive given his historic struggles versus Burnett.

by aagoodfella on May 13, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget Hill's homerun

which was absolutely crushed

"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

by jessef on May 13, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill

was crushing the ball, only a matter of time before he caught one squarely. Two flyouts on his first two at-bats.

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by achengy on May 13, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cito being Cito

You touched on it in the post, but Rolen’s big game is a big testimate to Cito just “letting his players play” and throwing “the book” out. When I saw Rolen was 0-18 against AJ, it seemed like a perfect opportunity to play Bautista who has been swinging a hot bat. Low and behold, he trusted Rolen and he had arguably the biggest hit of the year so far.

Overall thoughts…this is the most exciting game I’ve seen in recent memory. If the Jays were 12-22 it would have been a great game, but with the Jays being relevant again, it made for a tremendous game. I’m so glad there was a great crowd. I know some of it has to be attributed to AJ, but I hope alot of it was that it was the freaking first place Jays!!!

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on May 13, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Cito is too smart to let 18 at bats

four or more years ago change his line up. If he had been 0 for 18 this season or even 0 for 18 last year then maybe. But Cito knows that AJ is a different pitcher and Rolen is a different batter than they were back then.

by Tom Dakers on May 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rios leadoff double

someone compare rios’ and wells’ stats leading off an inning vs. rest of game…unbelievable

by norm depalma on May 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Small sample size....

it will even out. And I really don’t think that hitting well leading off an inning is a bad thing. You don’t get guys on, you don’t get times to hit with guys on.

by Tom Dakers on May 13, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

a hit leading off an inning is pretty WPA significant, it makes it much more likely that runs will be scored that inning

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Love B.J.'s

I’m sure Ryan will be back in the closer role at some point, but it’s good to bring him back and make him work for it.

by LandOfTheLeaf on May 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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