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The Hazards of Love: Friday Link Fest

Today's title comes from the Decemberists' last record, one I have really been enjoying.  I thought it was appropriate being that while my Jay-fandom is, of course, unshaken following the 9 game skid, I have realised one advantage of not particularly caring about any sports teams - you don't feel like I have for the past couple of days.  The weird thing is that my life has been going great over the past week - exciting new job, some time off in between, which I've really enjoyed, a ridiculous/hilarious black-tie government function coming up, great time spent with my wife and little girl, the Jays' awful skid has me in a bit of a funk where I would otherwise be riding high.  Not enough to put me in any kind of bad mood, but just enough to dampen what would otherwise be a great one. 

Anyway, enough solipsism for now - on to the link fest!

Jordan Bastian has a nice article about Cito and the Jays' posture during the skid.  He also breaks down the team's performance during the slump - similar to what we did 4 days ago when I personally thought it was soon to end.  Suffice it to say, if you are one of the people saying that this team is the real Jays, you must think the team is really, really bad, because the team's performance, in almost every aspect of the game, has been awful.  Finally, he puts things into perspective.

According to Robert MacLeod, Scott Downs has been nursing a hurting hamstring, which could certainly explain his subpar performance in his past two appearances.  This brings up one of Hugo's rules - if a guy is hurt, and it's not the playoffs, don't play him!  It is counerproductive and could lead to bigger problems in the long term.  You never know when a leg injury can affect a pitcher's mechanics and lead to an arm injury. 

Ghostrunner on First (sort of) looks at the bright side!  He also takes Jays fans to task, and I can't say I disagree.  

Does anyone disagree with Mike Wilner that this is rock bottom?  I mean, blowing a 5-run lead in the 8th inning and then a 2-run HR in extras to lose your 9th straight game, that's about as bad as it can get. 

The national sports media write the Jays off.  Fair enough, a 9-game losing streak will do that for you.  We shall return. 

Tonight's matchup:  Casey Janssen looks to follow up a mostly successful return to the rotation while Tim Wakefield looks to shut the Jays down for what feels like the billionth consecutive time. 

I'm off for a dayhike, so feel free to link to other relevant stories as they pop up throughout the day.

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I actually laughed at that Wilner blog entry. Just so strange to see so little in that space.

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 29, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jays Underrated

I object to all the Jays detractors who say the recent losing streak is the natural counter to an unsustainable win streak or poetic justice for an unbalanced schedule.

First the Jays earned their pre-slump record by winning a series at a time. It was not some unsustainable 10-game streak like the BoSox, absent which streak, the Red Sox are a sub-500 team. The Jays have not even had a win streak, this year, their record was built by steady solid play.

Second, if you look at the Jays losing streak, it was not like all of a sudden they started facing teams they cannot beat.

  • Working backwards, the Jays lost 3 games to the lowly Orioles. Of any series, this one is most indicative that the Jays are beating themselves via slumping and not necessarily getting beaten by better teams.
  • Same with Atlanta. Prior to the Jays’ visit to Atlanta, the Braves were merely 500.
  • Lastly, against the Red Sox, despite a sweep, it was hardly indicative a superior team exercising its dominance over a lesser opponent. Game 1, was taken by Wakefield against whom the Jays historically struggle, it is somewhat anomalous. In the loss to Cecil, I would argue he did not have his stuff that day – which occasionally happens to pitchers – and was left in too long. Cecil lacked his usual 90+ speed and mix in speed to high 70s, but instead threw a medly of mid-80s hittable stuff. In the third game, Ray lost, but I would argue he was bit green up from the minors anyway. Meanwhile, at the plate, the Jays struggled of their own initiative against two slumping pitchers in Penny and Lester (both 6ish ERA pitchers).

Bottom line, the recent skid by the Jays was, IMHO, more attributable to slump than indicative that the Jays cannot win.

All teams streak occasionally and Jays are no different. Once the streak is over the Jays, I do not see why the Jays cannot return to their 2 of 3 and 3 of 4 winning pattern that drove their AL leading record of April through mid-May. IMHO, Jays detractors and bandwagon bailouts are way premature. This team is a contender and will finish one or two in the AL East.

by aagoodfella on May 29, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...I think you are right....

Some bad luck and not getting the hit when it is needed and it adds up to a losing streak. Things will improve.

by Tom Dakers on May 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we put up the sides on the bandwagon so they can’t hop back on?

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

That being said, in the words of Bill Parcells, “you are what your record is”. In the past 9 days, the bluejays have been the worst team in baseball.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on May 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And since the start of the season they are the 5th best team in the AL and that includes a godawful worst in franchise history 9 game road losing streak.

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 29, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and notice how Atlanta has lost every game since…

by Icedragon on May 29, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Elliot of the Toronto Sun had a big two pager in today’s paper regarding the Blue Jays.

Basically about how god awful the team is and basically ignoring any statistical evidence.

Read here if you must.

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 29, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I work for the SUN

and I refuse to read anything in any of their papers

-- Gravity is not just the law, it's also a good idea

by mathesond on May 29, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The national sports media is made up largely of hockey people who know very little about the details of baseball. A 9-game losing streak in hockey would be devastating. In baseball, not so much because you can also put together a 9 game win streak. The beauty of baseball is that there is a lot of time in between games, between at-bats and between pitches to think, analyze and make comebacks. There is no clock and that’s what makes it the best sport.

I listened to the sports radio in Ottawa yesterday and I wanted to call them and set them straight. Hockey rules in Ottawa so when they talk about the Jays they don’t have a clue. They were essentially saying they should adjust the rotation so Halladay plays all the good teams. They clearly don’t understand the implications of that.

So I have no time for the national media when it comes to analyzing the Jays.

by BigTimeBlueJayFan on May 29, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You should see Calgary sports media trying to cover something not about the Flames

I listen to the Fan960 all day. Its embarassing how little they know about anything other than the NHL. That being said they will spend 8 hours today talking about hiring a new coach. NFL season is terrible. Its like they read the front page of espn.com and then spew some cliches. Living in Calgary is making me hate the NHL.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on May 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brunt is really the only one that I like to read or listen to.

Bob Elliot makes me want to punch him
So does Berger and Cox (although they mainly talk about hockey)
Simmonds and Jim Kelly Piss me off to no end.

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on May 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed. Stephen Brunt is the only columnist that I can stand. He is impartial.

The rest of the columnists think impartiality means you have to criticize the team at every opportunity.

Simmons contradicts himself all the time and once wrote a column where it was evident he didn’t know that a low E.R.A. was a good thing.

Griffin is so in love with his time with the Expos and when Gord Ash ran the Jays that he can’t see good in anything JP does.

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by furcifer on May 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Firstly they don’t have a clue about hockey in Ottawa either. They have the biggest bunch of homers ever in the media.

Secondly, let’s be realistic about the Jays and their chances. A 9 game losing streak over the course of a 162 game season is as you said not a big deal as it would be in hockey. A 9 game losing streak in the AL East though when it includes teams like Baltimore and Atlanta are wasted games that may come back to bite you in the end. I’m sticking with my pre-season prediction of Jays 3rd in the East. I’d hoped I was wrong with our torrid start but now I think that’s about where we’ll finish.

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by furcifer on May 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

certainly a 9-game losing streak is nothing to write home about

but just like we shouldn’t have been writing our playoff tickets back after we swept the Sox, it’s not necessarily time to just write this team off now either.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 29, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Losing the all the AAA teams in Canada didn’t help the situation.

I love travelling to the states and picking up a paper and seeing seven pages on baseball and giant expanded box scores with inherited runners scored and other such stats. (BTW – inherited runners scored is a dumb stat, they shouldn’t count a runner on third with less than 2 outs as inherited.) Hockey is not a cereberal game unfortunately. Baseball has a lot of time to think things over and get it right (or very wrong as was the case in Wednesday’s debacle)

by BigTimeBlueJayFan on May 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the beauty of baseball (don’t get me wrong though I love hockey too).

A Nation of Masochists a blog dedicated to Toronto sports fans, who are continually punished but keep coming back for more.

by furcifer on May 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I’m not too worried about this – we sweep the Sox, we’re 1/2 game out of first (unacceptable, but be that as it may). We take 2 of 3 and we’re still within easy striking distance – not only that, but we get our momentum back. While streak-ey teams have greater capacity for massive success or massive failure, the Jays’ success was based on taking 2 of 3 or 3 of 4 as individual series. If we can get that back and keep it consistant for another month and a half or so, we can – and likely will – have the BoSox and Yankees (and everyone else in the division) having to put in one hell of a second half if they want to catch up.

by Blue and White Expat on May 29, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're only 2 games behind, right?

so if we swept, we would be ahead of the Sox and in 1st or 2nd, depending on what the Yankees do. If we take 2 of 3, we’re a game back.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on May 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIght now is the Yankees turn to ‘pad their wins’, as the Jays supposedly did with all those wins against the central and west (but I’m sure Yankees fans would simply attest it to the Yankees being such an awesome team, you know). Hopefully they come out of it miserably so that the Jays can get back on top.

by Icedragon on May 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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