Well, After 9 Losses in a Row I Guess We'll Take a Series Win
Red Sox 8 Jays 2
Not much worth talking about there, other than a strike zone that, at very least, seemed to be all over the place. One inning Lester gets a strikeout on a pitch high and clearly outside (from the overhead camera way outside) to Romero not getting strike calls on pitches above the knee down the middle. Lester really didn't need the help today while Ricky sure could have used it.
We got 5 hits on the day, one a Alex Rios homer that was very nice to see. Sox got 4 homers on the day, 2 off Romero, 2 off Brian Wolfe. I think our first 4 hits were infield singles. It was just not a good day. There were no Jays of the Day today. Suckage Jay was Romero with a -.269 WPA.
Just to state the obvious, I have no idea Brian Wolfe is with the team while Jeremy Accardo is in Triple-A. Wolfe gave up homers on back-to-back pitches today. And his last appearance was the wonderful effort against Baltimore on Wednesday. I don't think we need to put up a poll to know that 100% of us think that Accardo should be up over Wolfe.
Anyway taking 2 of 3 from Boston is good and we are just 1.5 back of the Yankees for first in the AL East and 1 game behind the Red Sox for the Wild Card spot.
There were a couple of Jay stories on MLB.com. In one JP says we might be a buyer in by the trade deadline. I guess that really tells us nothing, he doesn't suggest what we might be looking for. And in more shocking news, JP says he still believes in Travis Snider. Was there a doubt?
Off day tomorrow then Tuesday we start a series against the LA Angels.
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It figures Lester would pitch another good game against the Jays. He had two terrible outings before his first game vs. them, then shut them down, and then had a poor outing his last time against the Twins and then pitched another shut down game against the Jays. $10 says he won’t repeat this performance in his next start. I mean, ok, he did pitch good, but why is it always conveniently against Toronto? Pretty annoying. That said, Romero has been awful since coming off the DL. He’s starting to give up too many HRs (then again the pitching staff all around is giving up way too many HRs), and his control was pretty bad today. When you walk 5 hitters, chances are some of them are going to hurt you. Strange that Richmond is the odd man out, he’s only really had one bad start this year. And he did better than Romero today. I also have to agree, Wolfe’s gotta go back down. He’s been awful. Bring back Accardo. And, you know….its a situation like this that it would be nice if they still had Chacin.
by Icedragon on May 31, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we finish May...
14-15… before the 9 game losing streak, we were 12-5…
June is our month.. lots of home games!
by Aquamelli on May 31, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox are willing to change their line up....
so why shouldn’t we? First they moved Ortiz down in the order. OK, that was an easy one. But then after losing a whopping 2 games to Toronto, Francona changes it again, and guess what, it worked! Are you following any of this Cito?
I know, I know, the alarm clock didn’t go off again.
Neither Rios nor Wells should be in their current positions in the order. Their stats are nearly identical. I would accept moving just one of them down, but I’d rather have both dropped, and I think it would do both of them some good, lessening the pressure a bit.
Hill is a classic #3 hitter. That’s where he should be. When Overbay is playing, he should be the #2 spot because of his OBP. I know you all think Lind is not ready for the clean up spot, but why not try it. I really don’t care what they do with the rest of the order, but let’s just say #5 Wells, #6 Rolen, #7 Rios, #8 Barajas, #9 Batista/Inglett. When Millar plays for Overbay, what the hell, put him in the 2 spot.
OK, go ahead and try to skewer me.
by Chesapeake Ron on May 31, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lind has been worse then Rios and Wells recently so since you are using small sample size to determine RIos and Wells shouldn’t be there, you ignore the exact same data to move Lind up. It makes no sense.
I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert
by JohnnyG on May 31, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lind is still in the top ten in the AL for RBI’s. He has produced, and therefore can have a few bad weeks. How long are you going to stick with weak producers in the 3 and 4 spot? The season is 1/4 over already. Making no changes makes no sense. There have been games this year where Rios and Wells had the lowest batting average in the lineup hitting 3rd and 4th.
by Chesapeake Ron on Jun 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lind was in second for a long time
and now Rios hit over 300 in May, and Wells has 14 hits in his last 11 games. However you slice it, that’s very good.
by boo15749 on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should probably double check
Rios latest numbers
by aagoodfella on May 31, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was looking at the Jays schedule…they don’t play another East team until the end of June. Crazy. Of course, thats due to interleague play most of the month. But they sure have a whacky schedule to say the least. And then after the All-Star break they play 5 straight against the East…
by Icedragon on May 31, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing against tampa for three months. hopefully they’re still scuffling when the jays finally face them
by torontocoltsfan on May 31, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats up with Zep
Marc Rzepczynski started the year on fire and was like 6-1 with New Hampshire with way more strikeouts then innings pitched, now I see today he is 6-5 and gave up like 8 runs in 3 innings. So much for his meteoric rise.
Cecil never seems to dominate at triple A, although he did have like 7 strikeouts today in 6 innings. I am stilll pissed he was sent down after one bad outing, when he tired and Cito screwed up. The pitchers have some funny stats down there, must be some issue with the ballpark, it it a small park or the carry of the ball from the air?
Daker’s is right on, why is Wolfe here, even before today and Accardo not, seems like Jays have some issue with his tude.
Not impressed with Romero, not so much he may be rusty, but I thought his fastball would be more of an out pitch. He throws tons of off speed stuff and that is not necessarily bad, but I always thought he could overpower when needed but I do not see that in him. For eg, I thought he would try and blow one buy Pedroia- you knew Pedroia was going to hit a homer when pat tabler starts saying he only has one homer and that is because pitchers are not going inside. It was the jinx of death for Romero. I think he has one start to save his spot and then back to Richmond. The Jays seem to not be giving him credit, he may not have the best stuff, but other then two games, he has been solid.
Finally, rather then useless Inglett and Bautista, whey not bring up Jason Lane. He tore up spring training and has had some very solid ML stats in the past. At least he may have power and his slow start is probably as much a result of being pissed he did not make team as anything and there were articles on his dissapointment in going down after his great spring.
by willie stargell on May 31, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lane hasn’t been good at all since Spring Training. And Bautista has been great in his platoon roles at 3rd and left so I don’t see the benefit in taking him out.
I know you say it may be disappointment, but the bonus of calling up Inglett was his versatility to play 2B, SS and OF.
And since Inglett isn’t exactly playing everyday I just don’t see the point of doing the move.
As for the pitcher in the PCL, most of the parks are elevated I believe…. may be completely wrong on that one though
I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert
by JohnnyG on May 31, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inglett
played well over a long period last year .. hitting near 300
he has only about a ten at bats during this call up … need to give him a chance to settle in
i mean, if he has two 2 for 4 games, his average jumps to 280
by aagoodfella on May 31, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with calling up Inglett last week
was that he’d just recovered from an early season leg injury and has played very little in Vegas before his return to MLB. Not sure if he is in game shape yet. For a while I thought the Jays would call up Howie Clark to play the role as Mr. Back-up Everywhere. Clark was hitting about .300 at the time in Vegas. I ain’t saying Clark is better than Inglett, but I thought we could use a “warmer” bat.
by PFHLai on Jun 1, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Inglett goes 2 for 4 for the rest of his career, he will end up with a batting average close to .500 and get elected to the hall of fame.
by Chesapeake Ron on Jun 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It all came down to one bad pitch today. Romero had a great set of pitches in the at-bat before Pedroia came up but then hung that breaking ball and it was over. I just had a feeling how the game was going to go after that. We were back to not getting clutch hits again or any luck with two outs. Oh well. Series win. On to the next.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jun 1, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We didn't have anyone on second, like, ever
Not what I call a lack of clutch hitting.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 1, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding,
With Lester getting the benefit of the calls, And pitching like a man possessed at the same time he completely shut us down. Then their bullpen took over.
This was one of those games, by the time we got to the 4th, All I was doing was hoping for Lester to throw a few extra and get pulled but he kept striking guys out on low pitch counts.
I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert
by JohnnyG on Jun 1, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did actually. We had second and third in the first and Wells managed only a pop fly to score one. We had a runner on second with no outs in the second and did not score. Against good teams we need to unfortunately take advantage of these situations because in a tight game they are few and far between. If we squeeze those runs across perhaps the game goes differently having attained the lead early and give Romero a boost. I realize we can’t always be hitting well in the clutch, but unfortunately there were no opportunities after that so in this game we failed in the clutch in the opportunities that were provided, although to his credit Wells was able to drive in one which was good, but not enough against Boston on this day.
Credit goes to Lester for shutting us down. The pitch to Pedroia was not very good after several greats pitches.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jun 1, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his pitch to Youkilis
actually wasn’t bad either, it was right in the high outside corner… too bad Youkilis is juicing
by boo15749 on Jun 1, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romero
I think he looked terrible. He was in trouble every inning, walked too many and of course way too many HR’s. I’m not saying Jays should yank him from the rotation quite yet, but to me thats a short leash. He hasn’t had a good start (including minors) in well over a month.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 1, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sneeze! Romero, Sneeze!
We need you to sneeze again and revert back to your April self. We like that version of you better. Cecil et al. got 4 starts, so you should get 4 starts, too, post-DL. Two more lousy starts, and you’ll be walking yourself to Vegas.
by PFHLai on Jun 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HRs...
Since the first game of the Jays losing skid, the Jays have been out HR’d 21-4. Considering its only been 12 games, 21 HRs against is not a very good number. If the Jays pitching would start limiting the amount of HRs given up (or at least start hitting more of their own), they would have a far greater chance of pulling out wins. And it doesn’t help that 3 of the 4 Jays homers have been solo. HRs are one thing Romero is suddenly giving up way too many of. I think he only gave up 1 in his first 3 starts, now he’s given up 5 in his last 2. It is becoming a bit of a concern for the staff as a whole, thats for sure.
by Icedragon on Jun 1, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's really not a bad number on the pitching side
1.75 HR/9 IP – not great, but really not bad at all, especially considering that 9 of those HRs came in two games (I think – the most recent one vs BOS and Cecil’s bad start). Now .33 HR/9 IP on the batting side – that’s awful.
by boo15749 on Jun 1, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and to continue with the idea of hitting HRs…Lester has given up at least 1 HR in 5 of his last 7 starts, the only two where he hasn’t are the two games against the Jays.
by Icedragon on Jun 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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