In a Baby Blue Sedan, and I am Doing the Best That I Can: GameThread for Florida Marlins at Toronto Blue Jays, 12 June 2009, 7:07 PM EDT
by jessef on Jun 12, 2009 6:52 PM EDT
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The Jays look to get back in the win column tonight after being shut out last night and turn to the hero amongst our heroes, Doc Halladay, to put them in position to do so. Doc looks to extend his major-league win total to 11 tonight against the Marlins at Rogers Centre. He will be contested by Ricky Nolasco, who has struggled mightily this season to the tune of a 2-6 W-L Record and an ERA over 8.
The Doc is coming off two straight complete games during which he has 20 strikeouts against one walk and allowed zero extra-base hits. He tries for his second straight shutout and fourth complete game overall tonight, and considering that his last start was just 97 pitches, let's hope he can do it again, and this time in the Flashback Friday powder blues.
Maybe Cito has been checking out Bluebird Banter, because he's mixed up the lineup tonight, raising Vernon Wells up to third and dropping Alex Rios to sixth in tonight's lineup.
Oh yeah, tonight's Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. The thread title tonight, by the way, comes courtesy of "Baby Blue Sedan" from Modest Mouse's This is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About.
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8-1 Jays
Heard it here first.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 12, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
good lineup move
I do not think it really matters if Wells or Rios gets moved down. The important thing is that they are broken up from the 3-4 spot, You cannot really afford to have them one after the other in the lineup. Can be a momentum killer. Hopefully they get fired up and paired up again if need be.
Go Jays Go!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
that wasn't the best possible start
oh well. is it bad that i’m not worried at all?
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On a side note,
I get my HD PVR tomorrow
Squeeeeeeee!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Rogers is giving it to me free for a year and discounting my bill, didn’t even threaten to move just call and talked about lowering my bill and getting rid of the movie networks…
They in turn, upgraded my home phone, my HD box to a HDPVR and let me keep the movie networks all for about 50 bucks less a month without locking me in
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
dayum.
i don’t even have digital cable.
woe is me, or something
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no, i know
i just doubt i’d be getting pvr before hd, and i doubt i’m getting hd anytime soon (at home in Toronto, at least)
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Halladay only 5th in quality starts?
That surprises me…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
He gave up 5 runs a couple of times
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Well yeah, every pitcher has a couple. Just considering his numbers in the rest of the stats they showed I thought he would be top 3 at least
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
i wonder who has more?
santana maybe… Sabathia…? who else?
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Yeah that is the question…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Halladay seems a bit tired
or is that just my perspective?
Can’t be jet lag, they sent him home early to avoid that
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Only threw 97 pitches last start
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
18 pitches on 3 batters
they’re liking the swinging thing
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not really
lucky double and a groundout… they’re just making contact
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Come on TSN show a replay….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
if you're gameday-ing
look at the third pitch in that last at-bat
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Let’s hope we get a repeat performance of Lind batting 4th.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
edit
Let’s hope we get a repeat performance of Lind batting.
/improved
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Ooo that looked like strike 3
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Another close one but that one looked more outside.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Yeah, what the hell was that?
I want Scoot to get on, but wow!
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow that has to piss off the Pitcher…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Really?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
the first one was JUST grazing the outside of the zone, the second one was well outside
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but yeah
he definitely could have thought he was out of it
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Gonna be a short game for me. Out with a female friend tonight.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
She doesn't
But she’s open minded (whatever the hell that means.)
I’ll be watching (probably the rest of) the game at her place while she puts on her make up clothes.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Great play by Scoot.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
Come on ump. Get your zone straightened out!
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
crappy swing
but that should have been strike 2… this ump is no good
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wells got screwed
the 3rd pitch was not a strike per gameday
so he had to defend the outside and thus had to swing at that outside pitch
more bad umping than bad wells, IMHO
ya
strike 2 wasn’t even close, Rod said “Wells doesn’t like that call”… he knew what he was talking about
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Shit
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
oh great swing Adam
what a great #4 hitter.
see? people not named Vernon fail sometimes too.
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that would be unfortunate
Jerry once asked Alan what he thought about how much stock people put in lineups, he said that the reason people think “oh, _ can’t handle that spot” is because people remember when someone does poorly in a given spot and rarely when they do well. he also said that no professional baseball player would ever say “oh damn, i’m hitting 7th. i’m bad in this spot. i’m probably going to ground out.”
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What is with these cheap ass hits?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
double play!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
And a nice one, too.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that was fast
Jeopardy isn’t even at the first commercial.
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i've been watching baseball for 35 years
and i have never wavered in my belief in the importance of lineups
people have watched for 90
and never wavered in their belief in the importance of RBI and fielding percentage, but it doesn’t make them right
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
thing about fielding percentage...
is back in the early days of baseball there were lots of errors so fielding percentage mattered. But not when a good fielding shortstop is 97% and a bad one is 93%…it really isn’t a big deal.
it's actually misleading
it suggests that the player with the better fielding percentage is better, and my guess is that that’s only as likely as a coin flip to pick the better fielder
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
It overrates good hands
and underrates good range.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
it wasn't at the start of the century because errors happened far more often
but now, if we get a couple of errors in a game it’s a lot. Means so much less.
but it's been repeatedly and undeniably proven
that they make almost no difference in run scoring.
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Shoulda woulda coulda pulled it
Dang.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
i have also rarely seen such a lousy home plate umpire
if he keeps calling the far outside strike, some batter is gonna get killed by an inside pitch
it's anecdotal
but I feel like the home plate umpiring is worse this season
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It's a swinging strike
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Rios
swung at a high pitch out of the zone so could not get the bat around
wins rbis and fielding percentage stats are all important
though they obviously don’t tell close to a full story
there are far more telling statistics
and lineups basically make no difference, though they’re stressed so often by the media
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You know you can reply to individual comments right? there is a little reply button at the bottom of each post?
It makes it a lot easier to keep track of a conversation instead of jumping all over the place
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
there you go
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
This Coglan guy is a pain in the ass
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
great try by Lyle
but if he hadn’t given up on the ball, he might’ve gotten him
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Damn, he was safe.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
this is getting ridiculous
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
nice work Doc
that felt like 6 outs that inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Aside from Coghlan's hit to start this inning
All have been of the cheapo variety. Damn these Marlins are fast.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
even that one
he seemed to get jammed a bit, though it was a decent bit of hitting
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Nice sinker, Doc.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
The ump not going to call that high one a strike?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
that was quite a well-hit single
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Nice hit Rod
For a moment, I thought he turned into Benji Molina. Nice play by the LF
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Half a stride on the replay
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
c'mon Vespa
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I like what Cito did with the lineup
Don’t like that outside strike call.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
Oh Come on Ump
A little consistency please… you can call the outside ones strikes but do it all the time!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Mike WInters
Is no stranger to controversy
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
Need the link. He got into a argument about with Matt Kemp about, surprise, the strike zone.
http://deadspin.com/5283015/does-mike-winters-look-like-hes-kidding
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i saw that
he’s not very good at this whole umpiring thing
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that labelling that Jamie was talking about
applies in many professions
rod and pat
oops sorry
it was pat who said that
just confused me a little
what did he say anyway? i missed it
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i just didn't hear
thought you might be watching a different channel
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Que?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that's an interesting point
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You know I don't get how Scutaro
Can swing with that grip.. that finger on the bottom of the bat would just throw me off…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
nice at-bat
though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Damn. I want 2009 Nolasco. Not 2008 Nolasco
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
His fastball looks like it has some bite tonight..
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
What was wrong with the 1-2 pitch?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
though according to jesse's preview
Nolasco hasn’t been as bad this season as the numbers make it seem
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Hugo,
You’re right. He’s Shaun Marcum with more hop to his fastball.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
I can't take credit
that was Jesse’s observation
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
this is quickly turning into a frustrating game
some of the worst umping I can remember
Time to go. Go Jays.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 12, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
so if the catcher 'sets up' on first base
and the pitcher thrpws it there…is it a strike?
i mean, hitters are all being forced to swing on outside crap—hence some ridiculous outs
normally this wouldn't bother me
but after yesterday’s game I can’t say I’m enjoying how this one is going
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Ummmmm....
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
no....
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
so how much of this can be blamed on his 130 pitch outing?
and how much on him adjusting to ump’s strike zone?
or neither
So what was it?
Pulled something? It wasn’t his arm so thats good news at least.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
lower back would be by far the best case scenario, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
barajas set up outside
and maybe halliday had to adjust delivery in small way to compensate for ump’s insane strike zone
arnsberg just pointed to his inner thigh talking to tallet
or so I thought I saw
weird
I didn’t notice him limping off the field
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I by no means hold myself out as an injury expert
but that one didn’t look too bad to me
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
See... I blame Tom
He said earlier he kept thinking Halladay wouldn’t go 7 in one of these starts….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
id guess groin
which is im guessing a month
speaking of which, what are chances sid crosby announces injury?
after finals over
if halliday is out for more than month, season over
and rios and wells def on the trading block
With their no trade clauses and their unimpressive seasons and their pricey contracts
not a chance.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
And then what do you do next year?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
next year? well if they were traded
we’d obviously play with a right fielder and a center fielder
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
you're right
if they were traded we’d play without two thirds of the outfield
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to know what your 1 year plan is
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
i disagree
i would say at least 5-6 gm’s are stupid
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
why would we even want to trade Rios?
if someone would take Wells’ contract, which would never happen (and he would have to waive his no-trade), you’d want to put Rios in centre where he’d be well worth the money
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
im not saying to trade them for less than their fair market value
just that they would be on the trading block…since we’d have no chance this year and since both of them have somewhat been wearing out their welcome…
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They have Beltran
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
23 pitches to get 2.1 outs
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
he doesn't need to be that efficient today though
just effective
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
took advantage of that outside strike
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norm wins
groin injury
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
will likely miss a couple of weeks
unless it is a really minor tweak
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got lucky
did it to myself a few months ago
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
on the soccer field
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
mine waas soccer too
wearing wrong shoes
plus i suck
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Have all of our strikeouts been foul tips?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
this is why Litsch should work out his legs and torso while
his arm recovers from TJ surgery … that way he can avoid these peripheral injuries later in his career
Because Halladay's problem was lack of conditioning?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
if groin i'd say very good chance reason was ump
and halliday making a tiny adjustment to his delivery
If Doc's groin is only "tweaked" not pulled
he might not have to miss more than a start or two, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Man…. Barajas what was that……
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
sure bailed out Rod there
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
man i hate the red wings
can’t… they…. just…die??!!!!
I didn't notice the so-called
Rios lack of hustle there
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Lyle
looked clueless on that slider
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come on Rod
prove boo the hater wrong!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
errrr...
No he can’t score on the fly Rod….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
"now he can score on a long fly ball"
well, I guess if it drops in
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
wow amazing first period
but still scoreless game 7
does anyone know the record for most consecutive scoreless innings
I can’t find it for the life of me
We're not even remotely close
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
i was sure of that...
but my frustration made me curious
yay Inglett
Church would have struck out there
Inglett!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
how long until
people want Inglett in the cleanup spot?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
cool
well. at least we know Halladay won’t get a cheap loss.
i figured out umps strike zone
if catcher ‘sets up’ anywhere and pitch lands right in his mitt and doesnt require catcher to move, then it’s a strike
pretty good throw Inglett beat there
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
btw no matter how bad jays announcers could be considered to be
they cant compare to the crapitude that is nbc hockey telecasts
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Inglett seemed to rattle Nolasco
that pitch was way off
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Mets leading the yanks by 3 now
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Also Joba out after 4 for some reason
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Hill!!!!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you could just smell that coming
that pitcher is done
Hill was all over that fastball
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
nalasco def rattled
and/or tiring
knock em out vern
2 manufactured runs for the Jays
are they the first all year?
Wells wanted to chase that one
“Hey ump, last time u called that a strike”
surprise
not vernons fault though
the ump is insane
oh Vernon
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poor vern
struck at 3rd ball and held up on 3rd strike
still struggling
So it was a hanger?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
it had break
so not really a hanger, I’m not sure it got over though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
ughh
He must’ve been sitting fastball or something, because that curveball was up, and very hittable.
I'm not sure it was over though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
at some point cito or someone else has to get on the ump
you are allowed to get ejected, cito
hasn't he announced
he plans to go the whole season without getting booted
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
did he really?
then some assistant/coach/bat boy should kick some dirt on the ump already…this is ridiculous
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I remember an interview where he said that
but maybe I dreamt it, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
we scored runs
and that was awesome
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
wonder if Wells
will avoid the Rios incident after this game, haha. He doesn’t seem like the type at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
is this his 2nd inning
typically when it strikes
this is really his third inning though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
personally
i say skill first and nationality second
I'm not even sure
it should be second, but yeah
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
definitely
it’s a good tie-breaker, all other things being equal. I just think you need to make sure all other things are equal. Let’s face it, comparing these kids is ridiculously difficult, especially after the first round or two
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yes you are right
this just happens to be magnified since its a canadian player drafted by a canadian team
yep
being CDN is a bonus … winning is what counts
good point
but is a kid from BC really a “local boy” for the Jays?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
all right second period starting
keep me informed please
max talbot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1-0 pens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the "lets go pens" chant is pretty damn loud!
here’s whats funny though… detroit/pittsburgh are playing against eachother in hockey and baseball tonight :-p
refs blew call in hockey goal too
all ref/ umps suck
im talking pro refs etc
they are so often swayed by home field fans etc (though not in pens game case)
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it's funny you say that
I’ve often wondered whether that’s not the case, and whether it doesn’t account for some of the disparity in home team records
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you sound like Eckersley
that’s what he says
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
my brother
used to yell at the umps listening to games on the radio. I loved that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
no offence to baseball
but you gotta watch hockey now!
Whoopsies! Someone was slow on the mute button.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
and are you kidding me on strike 3
it was the exact same pitch as 1 and 2
ridiculous
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
wine and my dinner go well
but wine and baseball, not so much. oh well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
what wine?
or whine?
we are winning yet we can still note the obvious
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Barbera d'Asti
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
funny thing about the hockey game
today in the US, we are doing the analog to digital switch over…. NBC is delaying it to 11:59PM… so basically if this game goes into overtime and you dont have a digital TV or a convertor, you’ll have a static signal at 11:59 looool
Yup.
Just a wee little bit.
Just got home, been tracking the score on my cell though. Been reading the complaints about the pitching and I just saw an example of it.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
so does Richmond come back out?
I think so
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not sure how long of a leash he'll have
I think Cito wants this game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
How much time did he get to warm up?
My phone only updated that Richmond was in for Halladay.
Not really relevant, just curious how quickly he can get into a groove.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
he seemed to get ready pretty quickly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Adrenaline much?
I imagine the entire team was just going “oh f***, oh f***, OH f***…. OH F***!!!!”
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
we sure were
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I saw that, lol
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
high pop to Inglett
one down
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Very high - I bet Rios could have come over and gotten that.
Hell, Barajas could have.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
League and Carlson are warming
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Probably.
I think Cito wants this inning over so he can go League > Downs to close
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I think Carlson will come in for Gload, then League will get the next two
assuming Richmond gets this guy
Carlson
to face Gload
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Joba managed to throw 100 pitches in 4 innings
looks like that’s why they took him out, not any injury
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
joba was throwing 98 mph
as reliever
much slower as starter
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Carlson gives up a single
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Damn. Cheap shot.
Time for League
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
and League to face Hanley
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't know
his mechanics look off to me; I don’t think his release points are consistent
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
If it was that easy
they’ve had plenty of time.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
heck remember League
he started off horrible … could not buy a strike
then he got good again (except for tonight so far … lol)
league has figured out carlson
but have they figured out league?!
cmon brandon!
I don't think a hitter can solve League
the question is more, has League figured out League?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
what a garbage run
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Didn't we score both of ours the same basic way?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
ours were even cheaper, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
though Hill hit the ball well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
DAMNIT!
Another cheap hit!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
i love how league always swears very loudly after he gives up a run
and how the cast always catches it
BJ or Carlson at this point as #1 situational lefty
They’re similar pitchers when you think about it
well can't blame League for that
Hanley shouldn’t have even swung at that pitch, let alone hit it. And comes back with the big K
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
btw anyone going to jays at philies or at nats next week?
im considering it
I'm going to the Nats games
I didn’t know you were in the area
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
im considering travelling
can i scalp at games and get good deal or should i buy online before?
by norm depalma on Jun 12, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
for the Phillies, not sure
for the Nats, I usually scalp tix for below face value, and that’s not even including the fees
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
if anyone goes
feel free to shoot me an e-mail, we can meet up. I don’t anticipate there will be many Jays’ fans, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I may actually be down in DC sat or sun
where would you recommend sitting in the stadium?
I like the outfield personally
from the first base side you can see the Capitol, that’s very nice too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Interesting Joba / Richmond comparison
Statistically, Richmond is outpitching Joba is most categories this year so far.
of course they go to a lefty against Lyle
Knowing Cito won’t pinch hit
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Millar has sucked
and their lineup puts pressure on the defense.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
definitely wasn't thinking Millar, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Bautista?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yep
but I agree it doesn’t make much of a difference.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
just because he's been good at getting on base, and leading off the inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
So Vespa can bat with 2 out and a man on first?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
45% of the time
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
he's our offensive star tonight
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
How many times has a fly ball gone of Wells' glove this year?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
only because wells still has great range
and almost makes plays many others wouldn’t have even come close
haha
this is why lawyers say eyewitness testimony is inherently unreliable
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that would have been an incredible catch
so close
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
was that the first time ump has called that low strike?
not that I’m complaining
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
League hasn't been remotely close this inning
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
this has unraveled quickly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yanks took the lead again
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Phils tied it up
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Come on League - K and GIDP
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
just like that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Not a real good 0-2 pitch there
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
on a freaking 0-2 pitch
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I officially hate this game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Except that we scored 9 two games ago
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Except for all those times we've overcome them just fine
that I dug up in a previous game thread.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Also, their closer sucks.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Mets have tying run on third, no outs
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
"One bad pitch"
You mean the one that hit the catcher wasn’t bad? Those three straight balls to walk Uggla weren’t bad? The one that the first double was hit on wasn’t bad?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Doesn't mean it was a good pitch
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
1-2
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
the way we play tight games, I don’t think we’d survive the playoffs even if we made it there. This team needs some oomph from somewhere…
But Joe Morgan tells me power doesn't work in the playoffs
and you have to manufacture runs!
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
the worrying thing
is that the Jays have two consecutive games of weak hitting
During the 9 game losing streak we had a bunch of games where we had 10+ hits
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
oh well
let’s hope we can pull out the next two (hey, we beat up Greinke)… but damn this was a disheartening loss.
everyone’s homework: pray for Doc
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
maybe this is (god forbid) the start of another losing streak – this lack of mental toughness is contagious it seems
and maybe it's not
only time will tell… but that’s kind of a strange thing to say
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
A two game losing streak means a lack of mental toughness?
I guess the Yankees must have pudding in their heads.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
But with 2 out
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Asking them to review a possible walk-off homer
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
(Over the top of the foul pole)
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
They didn't have an angle down the line
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Red Sox down 1-2-3 in th 12th
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Leadoff bunt single for the Phils
then a failed sac bunt
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Inning ending double play
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
it's true
you like the Blue Jays, don’t you? oh wait, we boo our OWN players.
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
76er fans would boo Allen Iverson and his team if they were down 2 points at the end of the first quarter - gotta love em
I did enjoy hearing the applause Doc got when he left the field though
yeah
(though i would have rather seen him not leave at all…)
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
Mets = unclutch
winning on an error doesn’t make you clutch.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
If grounding out with 2 outs and 2 on makes you clutch
then Vernon Wells is the clutchest Jay of all.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
5-6 walk off wins this year for them?
seriously now… and thats not counting games where they came back to win it on the road
Nobody gives Mookie credit for the ball that went through Buckner's legs
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Just getting home from the dome...sigh
What a sad night to watch the game…
My highlight of the night:
Ninth inning, Barajas up to bat, crowd is mostly all gone, 4 year old girl starts chanting “Let’s go Blue Jays” clap clap All the leftover fans/drunks support her as loud as possible, it was cute and about the only good thing to take from the game.
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