Marlins 6, Jays 5
by hugo on Jun 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT
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PrintWell, this game hurt.
Casey Janssen gave up 2-run home runs in two successive innings and that put the Jays in a big hole. Janssen wasn't sharp, he was throwing strikes but had trouble putting away hitters, didn't have command of his breaking pitches, and his location was off.
The Jays fought back pretty well, with home runs by Alex Rios and Lyle Overbay, but fell just short. Vernon Wells had another bad day, including ending the game with a swinging strikeout with the tying run on second base. Adam Lind has also not taken well to the cleanup spot yet, and Kevin Millar is a poor choice for number 5 hitter the way he's currently hitting. On the plus side, Rios was 4-4, so that was great to see. Shawn Camp was good in relief and B.J. Ryan threw another scoreless inning, which could be huge if he is rounding into form.
In some good news, it doesn't sound like Roy Halladay's injury is too serious. The Jays aren't sure whether he'll be able to make his start on Saturday, but it looks like he'll avoid the disabled list.
Better luck tomorrow, I guess, but the Jays will have to beat a very good starter in Josh Johnson to avoid the sweep. Have I mentioned that I hate interleague play?
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Great response by Rios..
after being moved down.
"I was playing in the streets one time and my friend broke off a leg to a chair and threw it at another guy through his heart and he died." - Ron Artest, QB's finest
more moves
Time to bring Cecil or Ray back up and put Janssen in the pen. And flip-flop Rios and Wells in the batting order.
the thing is
you can’t just move people around or send people down whenever someone has a bad start or a good/bad game. And Ray isn’t even healthy
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yeah I agree with Hugo,
I mean Gibbons shuffled the lineup almost everyday and we didn’t do any better.
You drop people after one bad start things start to get iffy. People start gripping their bats a little tighter because they are afraid.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Wells hasn't had one bad start...
Nobody suggested shuffling the line up. Just move Wells to 9th and let him grip the bat as hard as he wants.
OBTW, things are iffy right now.
by Chesapeake Ron on Jun 13, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wells has been struggling for a month
that is about a quarter of the season
enough is enough
it is time for drastic matters
put him on a plane and set him up for a few days with a sports psychologist and batting coach .. we are out of time … we can no longer wait for Wells to emerge from slump … he is not at all helpful to the team right now (although once back on track I am sure he can be) … but right now, it is the Jay’s biggest problem and it has been going on too long, way too long .. heck, two weeks was long enough … this is too much — fix the problem
by aagoodfella on Jun 13, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
premature
Janssen hasn’t had one bad start. Look at the stats. 4 starts.. His ERA is 5.24. He has given up 32 hits in 22 innings. That is pretty much awful. Bring up Cecil.. put Janssen in the pen.
5.24
is “awful?”
i’d be the first to tell you i expected him to be better… but that’s not all that bad…
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Can someone explain why Rios gets demoted and Wells doesnt?
Vernon should be batting behind Overbay.
Onions Baby Onions
Wells needs to be dropped to the 9 spot. He is not getting the job done as a cleanup hitter whatsoever. I like him and all but he has been brutal this year, especially with RISP. And who knows, maybe the change will do some good like its done with Rios so far. Something needs to be done though, the Jays will go nowhere without better production from their 3 and 4 spots.
"better production from 3 and 4"
it doesn’t matter who is hitting 3 and 4. you can’t hide poor hitters, and wells (and rios, though certainly not during today’s game) has been just that. either you rest him (which Cito won’t do) or you wait. unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do to hide Wells… just hope he snaps out
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Doc getting hurt hurts.
Blowing a 5 run lead hurts. Overcominga 5 run deficit and then losing hurts. This one didn’t hurt that bad.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Oh, and the Yankees failed to overcome a 5 run lead
I guess they lack mental toughness, or some other unfalsifiable claim.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Cito is lucky Barajas did not have to score from 2nd
We all know Cito is not much of an in game manager, but why the hell did he not pinch run for Barajas, especially after the sacrifice bunt. I envisoned a single and Barajas being thrown out at home. This is like the 3rd time in the last couple weeks we had a slow runner as potential tying or winning run on base and he did not pinch run. And why cant the announcers even discuss an obvious mis management gaffe like this. Campbell and Tabler etc are just so bad, to think we once had Shulman and Buck
However, Cito is not the main issue, injuries and lack of production from our best player are. The Jays have hung in despite losing more then winning lately, however, i just get the feeling, their fingers are slipping from the edge and we will be way out of it shortly.
Janssen has been a disapointment, but then again, in his first year, he was only ok as a starter. Since he was great as a reliever, maybe that is his true calling as a pitcher, I am just not impressed with him as a starter.
Oh well, at least I have Wells attack on the Mendoza line to keep me entertained this year
by willie stargell on Jun 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
I think the real question in that situation is
why didn’t he use Inglett or McDonald as a pinch-hitter for Chavez? That way, if the game went to extras he still would have had Barajas and the pinch hitter could have gone out into the field.
And it wasn’t Campbell today… it was Rod Black.
Hopefully Doc doesn’t hit the DL, and that is great news.
I am ok with him missing one start. Especially since his next start is in an NL park and he could possibly have to run the bases and bat.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
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