I Was Bruised and Battered: 6/16 Game Preview and Thread - Jays at Phillies
by hugo on Jun 16, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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PrintToronto Blue Jays at Philadelphia Phillies, Jun 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
The Jays are certainly bruised and battered after their sweep at the hands of the Florida Marlins and they look to pick themselves back up again tonight on the Streets of Philadelphia (thanks Bruce). Tonight's matchup sees two young lefties go at it: Ricky Romero for the Jays and Cole Hamels for the Phils. For more on Hamels, check out Jesse's usual great job from earlier today. Though I want the Jays to win, of course, a really good buddy of mine who is a huge Phillies fan is going through a tough time right now, so feeling a bit conflicted about it.
Romero is coming off a tough game last time out where he pitched very well but the Jays just couldn't muster any runs for him, so it'd be nice to see him get some support this time out. Romero's season numbers are looking quite good, though he has struggled a bit with the long ball of late.
Roy Halladay played catch today, and is scheduled for a bullpen session tomorrow. Good news. Also, remember Michael Barrett? He just started a rehab assignment, so the end of the month is definitely looking like a possibility for him. Raul Chavez hasn't been too terrible as a fill-in, but I wouldn't mind getting a little more offense on the bench. Also, it's very possible the pitchers like throwing to Chavez, but his constant moving around, talking, etc. seems a bit distracting to me. As you can see from the lineup, Vernon Wells is still hitting 3rd. That's Cito, folks -- love him, or, well, not.
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yee haa
Phils pitching does not look too tough so far
too bad that 2-2 pitch didnt count as two balls
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I thought the bounce hit Scoot
I’m guessing that doesn’t count as a HBP eh?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
it does if it hit him
it doesn’t if you just think it does, haha
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
well
that 3rd strike pitch looks like the kind that can hang and is ripe for tater shots by the Jays … could be some homers tonight for the Jays maybe
One can only hope...
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
well
this isn’t starting well for the Jays
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Great....
I wonder if we’ll get a start into the 5th today….
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
i think Jays get at least 2 taters tonight
1 from Lind
1 from Rios
maybe one from Hill
ouch
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
wish rolen would have held up there
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
that didn't work
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
We can't even ground into a run scoring double play right lately
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
2 in scoring position now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Going to be loaded for Romero
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
though for Romero
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
certainly not
from all the baserunning he’s been doing lately
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
well, that was not exactly the most exciting thing of all time
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
And people like NL rules... why again?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
unfortunately
I can’t stick around for this one. Snap out of it, Jays!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
ricky!
man after giving up a double and then a RBI single… Ricky has been great so far
i hope he can keep this up for 5 more innings
Quite the at-bat for Rolen
before grounding out on ball 4.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Ya, good patience and eye
7? 8 pitches?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
LIND!
Nice HR
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Lind now one back of Hill
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Rios with a nicely hit single
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Calculus Up!
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Cactus Up!
Millar with a nicely stroked double down the left field line. Rios scores from 1st.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
LOL
Good effort Rod. Too bad the ump remembered the count.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
good thing victorino didn't throw to third
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Gotta throw ahead of the runner...
At least that’s what I always get told.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
unless you're trying to pick him off, yeah
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Nice bloop single by Barajas
Millar plays it close thinking about going home but makes it back in time.
Great AB by Barajas – 10 pitches. We might not see Hamels for much longer – already 70+ through 3.1.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Squeeze bunt
a little scary with Millar at third
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Wow. Woulda been there though.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
no swing
he either swings or double play … so just dont swing
There's no guarantee it's a double play
Could be the swinging bunt.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Or could bunt with 2 strikes
not really worse than taking a called strike
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Why bring that up Jamie?
We can read between the lines of what you’re saying about Ibanez… just say it out loud if you want to call out a player. Otherwise, shut up.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Come to think of it....
Just shut up…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Talking to myself mostly.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
surprised he didn't bring up
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/06/raul-ibanez-great-start-comes-with-steroid-speculation/
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Well, that's what I felt he was implying.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I know
I meant the actual article. It ticked Ibanez off pretty well. I always think that someone being outraged by that does not make them look good. Not really sure why people don’t take the lance berkman approach
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
What's the Puma doing?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
1,2,3 4th for Ricky.
Nicely done! A starter into the 5th, yay!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Ortiz just hit another HR
Finally solved his swing?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
i am hoping that he hasn't actually
but this is going to buy him more at-bats
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Because it means less competition for Nick Johnson?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I wonder if Dunn will be p.o.'d
and play well against Jays
I wonder if JP calls down
And orders a plunking or two? :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
He already played the Jays last year with Cinci
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Thought it was after
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by play well,
do you mean actually run on defence?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Pitch looked inside to me
Anyone watching on gameday to confirm or debunk my suspicion`?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
A little bit
But Rolen was swinging at pitches right in that spot in the at bat, so that probably affected the ump’s call.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
ricky strikes out ruiz and hamels on curves
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
1-2-3 again for Ricky in the 5th
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Who has tenure?
Him, Marcum, or McGowan?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Lind gets on
Skipped past Rollins
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
not much of a play there from the 2007 and 2008 NL Gold Glove SS
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Wow.
Error by Rollins puts Rios on.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
is there some sort of rule that ricky romero has to come up in a critical situation every time?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
The bottom of our lineup is performing
the top isn’t.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
i know
was just saying that it’s incredibly frustrating that this seems to happen every inning.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Every other inning
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
well, it has happened every other inning
but it seems to happen every inning.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
That's because the top of our order make outs so fast
it doesn’t seem like an inning.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I ask again, why NL rules?
Because a league average of pitchers being .150 is SO exciting!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
NL teams don't want to pay the DH salary
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
to be fair
making things exciting doesn’t necessarily make them better. Hockey shootouts are kind of exciting. I still don’t like them.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
come on vespa
2nd chance for redemption here
Damn
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
yep
the atbat that killed us was the barajas popout
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Scoot
Gotta love him…doesn’t swing at the first 5 pitches then hits a sinking liner. Unfortunately within Victorino’s range.
would be incredibly frustrating to watch ricky strike out like that
and then blow the game now.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
OH SON OF A BITCH
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
he'd better not be
he just batted with loaded bases and one out.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
meaning if Jays signed him they would have to give up Overbay, Frasor plus 2 drafts?
hmmm … maybe too much
No, we would have got 2 extra draft pitcks if he'd left
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yankees probably would have signed him, then
so we’d get a fourthrounder
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Shin-Soo Choo
how come he has so few games played .. is he injured alot?
darn it vernon
just couldn’t extend his arms enough.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Or extended them too much
couldn’t dump it in front.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yeah, but would have liked to have seen him deposit one in the seats.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
don't know about that
that pitch was up, if his bat had been just a bit quicker, he could have hit it hard.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Wait, no, your way is the bloop
Mine’s the blast, I guess.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
we should be killing these guys...
damn, top of the 6th killed us.. i hope the jays can put a rally together
yes
this will be (another) disappointing loss if that happens
sknx up 4-3 now.
cano doubled over elijah dukes’s head.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
but was thrown out at third
trying to advance to a triple.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Isn't Lidge hurt?
Who’s closing for them nowadays?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
ok, he's walked six in seven innings.
please plate some guys here.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
now it's seven in seven innings.
good patience alex.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
eight in seven innings.
good patience kevin.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
alex pitches a good pitch to go on
ball was in the dirt
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
2-2 pitch after a called strike
Was probably going to try get Millar to chase offspeed, right?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
thank you alex
now for millar to pop out, barajas to strike out and batista to fly out to center.
Onions Baby Onions
BJ Ryan
If BJ does a good job here, does he move up the bullpen depth chart to become a set up man option?
Do you really want to bunt
when you have No Contact Bautista up next?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Could use Overbay instead, I guess
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Wasn't really thinking of that
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
These Barajas popups with men in scoring position are getting tedious
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
just something funny about that phrase
“Romero’s come in and just thrown nothing but balls”
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Our pinch hitters hit as well as pitchers.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
darn
now looks like the bunt would have been good.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Wild pitch wouldn't necessarily have happened if the bunt had been on
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
high strandrate in 7 innings pitched.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Oh for the love of god Rios!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
I think this is justified
What the FUCK
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
fn horrible running
isnt that the second time Rios has done this recently
terrible
Ya, you don't lose anything by tagging up on a deep fly like that....
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
scoot hit a liner to leftcentre
rios didn’t tag
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Fly ball to the gap
Rios didn’t tag up
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Rios didn't tag on a 1-out line drive into deep center
So he didn’t score on a SAC fly basically.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
with that kind of baserunning alex, you're lucky anyone wants your autograph
you’re a bum…a bum!
sweet
i think they just want to lose, but are trying to act like theyre trying to win
Onions Baby Onions
so frustrating
bases loaded no outs in the 6th… didnt get even 1 god damn run
we have bases loaded 1 out in the 8th…. and yet again, we dont get 1 god damn run
i mean you HAVE to be kidding me with this BS
not that hard to pass a team
that’s running backwards.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
game isn't over yet
but it sure as heck feels like it is.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
OK, normally I try my best to support the players
But FFS, that was one of the dumbest plays I’ve seen in a long time. That does deserve a benching for a game – I see other teams benching younger players for base-running gaffs and not running out grounders, so why not bench Rios for probably costing your team a tie and chance at coming back to win.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
That was Leyva pointing Rios home
absolutely inexplicably.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
even still
if leyva told him to jump off a bridge
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Leyva was not waving his arm to go back
he was windmilling toward home
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
How can windmilling toward home and yelling "GO GO"
be telling him to get back to the bag.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Then he was telling him to go when he surely would have been out at the plate.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
in spite of Raul Ibanez's Johnny Damon-esque arm
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
No comment :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
he checked it cause he was stunned that bj threw the same thing three times in a row… haha :P
i’m just joshin.
by Matt In Canada on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a cheap basehit on a check swing.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Scooter the leaper!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
time to bring the Vespa ito the shop for routine maintenance
Vespa now 0-10 … he can now take his day off
he drilled that lineout.
if the ball is a few feet towards centre, it’s a potential game-winning hit
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Downs
For obvious reasons we hardly ever see Downs pitch lately. I havent’ analyzed it or anything, but I sometimes wonder whether moving him to the closer spot hasn’t cost the Jays some games. Normally, he was used here and there in high leverage situations to get to the 9th with a lead. With other people filling those roles, such as Carlson, we have seen more leads blown in the last 6+ weeks that we’ve been accustomed to. Removing Downs from the set up position, has likely increased pressure on the Carlsons, Frasors and Leagues, thus hurting their performance. I hope BJ can return to the closer role at some point.
i agree with you, though
and if bj can even get back to being a setup man, that would be great.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
nice work by frasor to get the grounder.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
You win!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
was going to say
“though not necessarily because he deserves to”
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
i don't think rolen has ever bunted in his life.
look at him
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Aw damn,
Nice try Rolen
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Atta Boy Rolen!
And way to go Wells! Great Baserunning!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
SWEET!
vernon really does take it upon himself to do what he can when he’s slumping
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I hope they pinch hit for Millar with Overbay
heck with the confidence. Winning brings confidence
Already pinch ran for Millar
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
didn't they pinch run for millar last inning?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
What do you think Levya is saying to Wells.
So Ball in air, tag up ok?
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Wells (my observation)
I am no hitting expert surely … but when I see Wells swinging it seems like he is not swinging though with his front arm
that is, he swings his front arm until it gets perpendicular to his torso and then it sort of stops and the rest of the bat momentun is than carried by wrist rotation and than elbow rotation
basically, his front arm is not swinging through …
no expert … but maybe its an issue
...............
Wow that was a close pitch for ball 1…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Love that guy standing behind home plate yelling.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
....
sweet, now all we need is a doulbe play!
is there a record for least runs scored with the bases loaded 3 times with under 2 outs in a game?
Onions Baby Onions
I’m guessing it’s zero
:)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yep, baseball's been around 125 years
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
has to throw a fastball here, right?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
HAHAHHA!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
good job to tie it up boys
now let’s take the lead!
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
With the force at the plate?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
tough to bunt with loaded bases
there is a force at home
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
lol
that was just sarcasm cuz of the foolish (IMHO) attempt to have rod bunt earlier in the game
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
when you think about it this whole inning stems from wells taking third there.
they load the bases because of it,
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
thats why i keep bringing up idea of having him lead off
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Which would be fine
Except we already have a great leadoff hitter at the moment.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
He just got an off day
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
he keeps swining at non-strike inside garbage
that was not even close to the zoen
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow..
Sitting on the bench tomorrow Rod… 3 infield pop ups. ouch.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Uh, John McDonald is pinch-hitting?
this has got to be the first time.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
pinch hitting mac
this may show the lack of depth of this team
Only other guy on the bench is Chavez
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
only position player in mlb who can't hit a fast ball (sigh)
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
this will be an embarassing game to lose
but par for the course for last month
and of course cito has blown through the bullpen
so even if we get through this inning, we’re screwed for extra inning game
Manage for 9
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 16, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sucks that doc is hurt
otherwise richmond could go forever.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
no matter who wins this
it will be an ugly win
Well
we really haven’t taken advantage of this as we should have . . . BUT at least we tied it up.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
tieing up a game only against phillies
is as good as a loss
their hitters are amazing and very clutch
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They lost an extra innings game this weekend.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Thanks Norm!
Keep thinking Positive! What would we do without you!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
sorry norman vincent peale
didnt know this was blog for positive thinking
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t always have to be positive, but you don’t have to say the Jays have lost the game when it is tied and they are still friggin playing the damned game!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
i didnt say that---i said tieing it up is as good as a loss
slight difference
but point being that we in da shit
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not quite sure how a tie game is as good as a game you've already lost.
but I guess I will take your word for it.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
brining in inglett to run for millar was a mistkae
there is a runner on bases a head of you so speed really does not matter that much
and it is not like Millar is Big Hurt slow
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He is pretty slow, but I thought it was strange to pinch run for him especially with someone on base ahead of him
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
and especially when he wasn't the potential game-tying run
but i think cito wanted to replace him with Lyle anyway.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
depsite tieing the game up
that was pitiful…. no different then the top of the 8th… runner on 3rd… chance to sac fly him in… nothing
good comeback you guys!
beat those phillies into the ground.
ps: you look like us with the bases loaded
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
i want this win
mainly for ricky… the kid pitches great for the second game in a row… he deserves a W
You mean a moral W right?
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
still, i think you bring up a good point.
At least he can go to bed tonight knowing that he helped the team win, even if he doesn’t technically GET the win.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Here is a question
how much worse of a batter is Frasor than Johnny Mac? Could it have been worth it to leave Frasor in so he could pitch the ninth and we could have Downs for the 10th?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I'm not saying I'd have done that
I’m just wondering what everyone thinks about it. Mac is basically an automatic out, anyway
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
that is a bit of an exaggeration
he just hits low 200s
i have seen the guy hit doubles and even a tater once
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
mcdonald career vs. righties
.227 / .261 / .297
Frasor has never batted.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
so mcdonald won't make an out 1/4 of the time
let’s say frasor is an automatic out.
i guess it’s worth it to pinch hit
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
If we take the lead here I see Downs getting run back out for the 10th
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
so win or lose, does rios get benched next game?
what you guys think?
for as much as i wanna choke him
no, no bench
he has been hitting well and seems to have gotten comfortable in the 6 spot
ya no bench
just put him in a closed room with the heckler
by REMO on Jun 16, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you would think his good running last inning would lift his spirits up etc
but his hitting is not being affected by anything now
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
less time than it takes wells to catch up to ortiz in weight
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Vespa now 0 for his last 14
officially in slumpville
dont worry about Hill
Mr. GIDP is at the plate
/sarcasm
wee ... i deserved to get dissed
nice clutch hit Mr. Wells
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Single back up the middle for Wells
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
When it rains it pours?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
thats it vernon
good approach at the plate
He has hit the ball hard in a couple at bats over the past 2 games, just nothing to show for it until the blooper tonight….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
and a terrific baserunner
notwithstanding a slight gaffe tonight
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
not exactly a burner, but generally a good baserunner, yeah
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
don't think cito wants to put him at cleanup
because he would have to change the lineup too much when rolen has offdays (joking)
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Joking aside, that does make sense.
I think Cito’s the type who doesn’t want to play with the “marquee” spots in the batting order too much – 1st and 4th.
Though he has mixed it up a few times, it’s still not as often as he would if Rolen were there.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
if effort were speed, Rolen would be the Usain Bolt of base running
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya
I love watching Rolen – he goes balls out for every out of the game, both offensively and defensively.
Definitely the type of player I’d want my kids to style themselves after. Especially when I think my kids will likely be big boys like him.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
has a shot at the hall of fame.
we’ll see how much and for how long he can continue to produce (and stay healthy)
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Really?
Are his numbers that good? I hadn’t realised that.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Offensively he is very good
Defensively he has had a few absolutely incredible seasons. Brooks Robinson wasn’t that good of a hitter, either.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Cool, that'd be awesome
I’d be rooting for him in 6-9 years from now. I’m guessing he has maybe 3 or 4 years left, but injuries might cut it short.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
He has a lot of gold gloves
It is the element of defense that hall of fame voters like.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
He also has a WS ring too right?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
yeah with the 2006 cardinals
that year cemented it for me. He couldn’t get along with their manager TLR, i hate that friggin guy
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
OK, ya, I see your point now
I hope he can play with us for a few years and hopefully be around for our next WS or two… Then maybe he goes in as a Jay?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
it is possible
the jays would need to sign him to a two- or three-year deal and he would have to be excellent. wouldn’t hurt if he had a big world series with them, either.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
To date in the ballgame Rolen has made opposing pitchers throw 37 pitches. Which is roughly 18.5% of the total pitches they have thrown to date
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
That's unreal
Way to work for the team – let’s everyone get extra looks at an unfamiliar pitcher and burns them out a bit too.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
has had a pretty good day to show for it, as well
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Yep Great day for Rolen
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
was one of my favorites even before he became a jay
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
If we hadn't traded him for Frasor
We could have had him pitch
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
werth is a good player
not a superstar, but really solid in every way
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
okay boys
game isn’t over yet, but good, good, good!
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
except for the liner scoot hit that was right at ibanez
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
wow, that looked like you said douche at first glance
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Ack..
That is quite the due up for Philly…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Ya, a little bit scary
Need a single here to plate 2.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I will not make the same promise.
But only cause I think it is funny as hell.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
assuming the runner does not get caught halfway between 3rd and home
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
if that happens again ...
… LET THE EXPLETIVES FLY … lol
(i believe that is a line from Seinfeld)
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go Rios, just touch the ball.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
jamie moyer and joe blanton for philly
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Woohoo!
Great eye Alex
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
OMG
Again? Philly fans, I am so sorry about your luck.
Philly pitchers – HAHA.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Should only be 2...
But the first was the tying run and this second one was insurance.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Let's work them for another BB :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
wow they bring in matt stairs nephew from bullpen
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
or at least someone with same body type
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
1980s NL East
remember when the NL East was the powerhouse division in baseball … Phillies, Pirates, Cardinals and Expos … quite a contest every year
this would be HUGE win
and with nats series coming up, maybe we can make up some ground
then again, yanks are playing nats now…
it is like a game nobody wants to win
the Jays hand over 15 stranded base runners
phillies, no we insist, allow us to walk home your winning runs
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Good SAC by Lyle
Nice.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
With this long inning, is Downs still coming out?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
feel like it isn't really necessary with the four-run lead now.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
welp, i guess he is coming back out.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
is anyone even warming up in pen?
and downs is hitting now
so i guess not
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Barajas! Finally!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
okay if we win two games here
im going to dc for weekend series
I guess if he's hitting
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
agreed .. could be a good time for Hayhurst
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Awww
Downsy at the plate!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Is he even gonna swing the bat?
I wonder if Cito just said go stand there
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
there goes season
downs just cramps up on run now
Cramps imply a quad, calf or hammy
He was definitely looking and grabbing the toe of his shoe.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Oh don't do that.....
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Oh for god's sake.
That had better just be a rock in there or a spike that’s hanging funny…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
it looked like it was to me
the way he looked at his shoe.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
It was the toe
A recurrence of his gout?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
not sure if that was a joke
but it was funny. mainly just because i had forgotten about the gout.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
philies broadcasters have been talkign whole game
how cito is worried about pitcher’s hitting and getting injured in these interleague games
Aw shite
Carlson in with a 5 run lead.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Nope Carlson
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Elf ears tell me it's Carlson,
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
he runs in from the bull pen at full blast every night
anyhow , i m saying lots of these baseball players are soft and mushy or generally out of shape etc .. which makes them more prone to injury
they should really work out (cardio and lifting) so that they are more durable and less subject to these minor injuries … this would apply to Downs and Doc situations IMHO
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
and started with the expos, didn't he?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
And I honestly wonder if the announcers are "special"
That’s not an ankle injury. That’s a toe/bottom of the foot. He might have just strained something down there.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I wonder if all the people who left would have stayed if they knew they were going to face Carlson this inning
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
i got confidence in Carlson .. he is on the uptrend i think
by aagoodfella on Jun 16, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
cito has a lot of positives as manager
but he has a ton of negatives too…
mismanaging a nl league game has to be one of them
Hasn't he been managing exclusively in the AL?
That certainly factors into it. Hell, there are NL managers who can’t manage an NL game.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
he did play in the nl for the padres
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Ah, didn't know where he played
But, even still, some players aren’t made to manage certain styles.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
who would you say is better fielder, scoot or rollins?
by norm depalma on Jun 16, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on tonight? Scoot.
Haven’t seen Rollins enough to say otherwise.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
from what i've seen, scoot
not sure what the stats say, but i know they do like rollins, though i don’t think they like him as much as scoot.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
gotta give it to scotty
the man is consistent.. has been a 9 time gold glover… has proven it year in year out
scoot has played that shortstop position great this year
think he was talking about jimmy rollins, phillies SS
not scott rolen, former phillies 3B
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
if downs cant pitch rest of series
does bj get another chance to close v philies
with all their lefty sluggers in lineup
I think it goes to Frasor
He’s been good against lefties since he learned that changeup, hasn’t he?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I think either could be an option
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Magic Number: 103
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
id go frasor too but does cito like him?
and it looked to me like an ankle sprain—-7 days off
alright that was a sweet sweet win
lets get on a streak
tying it up is better than a loss, no?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by jessef on Jun 16, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Scutaro for Suckage (-.411) and I’d say Barajas too – 3 infield fly rules with bases loaded. Brutal.
Rolen (.568) and Lind (.338) for JoD. 7th spot also (Overbay/Millar combined .492).
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Crazy game, it seems.......
I can read that nobody did their best to win it but luckily Philly did its very best to lose it with those bases-loaded walks. This is a big win, hopefully the Jays can build some good thing upon it. And I’m not going forward all the way to the Nationals’ series. I am talking about this series, which is much tougher and important. Let’s hope for the best…..
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