And We'll Sweep Out the Ashes in the Morning: 6/18 Game Thread, Jays at Phillies
by hugo on Jun 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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PrintToronto Blue Jays at Philadelphia Phillies, Jun 18, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
So, the Jays have a shot at sweeping the World Series Champion Phillies on the road (where they've really struggled) after getting swept by the Florida Marlins at home, where they've been great. So far this series, the Jays have gotten great starting pitching and have gotten back to their longball hitting ways.
Even more exciting, Brad Mills makes his major-league debut today in place of the injured Casey Janssen. After nearly making the Jays' starting rotation out of spring training, the 24-year old lefty has had an up-and-down season thusfar for Las Vegas. He started slow, put together a very nice string of starts, and then has had a bit of trouble more recently. That said, his overall numbers aren't too bad for the hitter-friendly PCL, though Citizens' Bank Ballpark in Philadelphia is a hitters' haven itself. Mills occasionally has some command issues but generally has a good approach to pitching. With so many lefties in Philadelphia's lineup, it's not a bad matchup for him, but those are good hitters and it's a small ballpark so it should be quite a challenge. Mills is a bit of a flyball pitcher who doesn't really have any one dominant pitch but uses the traditional repertoire effectively and has a bit of a deceptive delivery that might be hard for hitters who haven't seen him before to pick up on. He's originally from Arizona, and got his engineering degree at the University of Arizona.
Joe Blanton starts for the Phillies and he has given the Jays fits before, so let's hope our good hitting from yesterday carries over into this afternoon. Read more about Blanton in the typically fabulous jessef opposing pitchers profile. Cito must really want this win as he is starting Rolen (once again in the cleanup spot) in the day game after a night game, even with Bautista on the bench and the lefty on the mound for the Phillies. Overbay gets the start at first and Chavez starts behind the dish.
Today's title comes from the lovely Graham Parsons and the Fallen Angels song. Let's hope the Jays can sweep out the ashes of their Florida series with a sweep of the defending champs!
By the way, the weather today in Philadelphia doesn't look great. My understanding is that the tarp is off the field, which suggests an on-time start, but it could be a long afternoon so we'll have to see how it goes
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hmmm would be bad if the wind lifted Carson and that umbrella away.
scott seems to have trouble with the english language at times.
A footnote to hugo's thread.........
…………I feel the reason why Scott Rolen is playing a day game after a night game lies in his excellent career numbers against the Phillies, which I highlighted in my very humble “preview of the game” thread earlier today.
Let’s hope for the best, enjoy the game…..as I try to do so on my PDA and on the web……
I think you're likely right about that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yes
I have no idea why I thought he was a lefty
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
caught a groin injury from Doc
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
nice bit on Canseco
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
do you really 'count on' a pitcher more when others are injured
I mean…they are going to make their starts, and you want them to do well but no more than you did before the injuries
I think maybe
in the sense that you especially need him to pitch well to save the bullpen in case the stopgap pitchers need bailing out. The Jays relied on Doc to give the bullpen a bit of a rest every 5 days, so if their other starters can go deep into games, that would help a little, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah I guess....
just think it’s strange to count on guys more when they really have the same job they did before the injuries
24 pitches that inning
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
come on Mills!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it really has
I was surprised the Jays didn’t sell that more in the offseason
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I think fans really enjoy
watching young players come up. Baltimore sold out all 3 games of Wieters’ first series
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
leadoff single
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Not a real good use of that 3-0 count
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Not missing Barrett right now
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Mills batting righty?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Made contact
Better than our pitchers have been doing
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Werth really likes playing us
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
still mad that we traded him for Frasor, I guess
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
He has a ring
I don’t think it worked out so bad for him.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
not for us, either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Looks like a bit of a wind tunnel to left
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
makes this a tough assignment
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Mills
seems to be suffering from the same hanging pitch syndrome from which Romero recently suffered
but preferably not both
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it's pouring here
I can’t imagine Philadelphia will be too different for long
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
our irrational Scoot love
has become rational
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Scoot!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'll take that every time
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
plus cupcakes
is at 70 pitches through 3
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Another 20 pitch inning for Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Marge: Did you just stay up all night eating American cheese?
Homer: I think I’m blind.
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
i think so
they just mentioned it and i felt the need to throw that one out
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
Is it the generic name for Kraft Singles?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
you can buy
actual american cheese at a deli where they slice it up for you. It’s usually white, not that artificial kraft colour, and isn’t nearly as terrible as the Kraft singles, though I would still never bother to get it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
lookit these Philly fans
slow clap at 0-1 count with a man on first
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yeah, all things considered
Mills did a good job to get out of that inning
got out of it with only one crossing
good job, little more stressful then preferred but good job getting out of it
that could have been a lot worse
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
i hope we get a ton more runs
i feel very un-easy about brad mills… fought out of a tough 1st and 3rd inning so far
at the moment yes
but he seems like an unpolished Romero
he looks like he is following the same development path — i think it would take just about 1/2 dozen games to get him up to complete MLB speed
no such thing
though it would’ve been nice to clear the pitcher, I agree
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
no surprise there
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I assume they use the Monday off day to push him back
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
this is where cito needs to step in
if he wants to have a chance at winning this
If Barajas was excused for whatever reason
then you can’t pull Chavez
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I was going to post "Hands up those who think that we'll see a pinch hitter in the top of the 5th"
But it’s no longer relevant, I think.
based on this performance
i would go with cecil before brad
Well that burns a pitcher, have to pinch hit first AB next inning.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Cito
may send Camp to bat, you never know
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I was thinking the same
dumb move to go to Camp with Utley and Howard due up
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Downs on the DL, BJ threw a bunch of terrible pitches last night
Carlson in the 4th?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
If Mills was pulled with Blanton on first
then it’s still a lead
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
true
but you’ve just pulled your pitcher in the 4th inning with two outs and a very slow runner at first base.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
A slow runner who's a terrible hitter
that your pitcher just inexplicably walked.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Inglett coming in to bat for Camp
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
I don't think so
I liked the move
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
come on Aaron
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that is not the way
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
oh Vernon
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that inning
made me sad
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Doesn't that mean we should be more angry?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
it is doubly bad when you get a nice clutch pinch hit
and set up a great scoring op and than it is so easily wasted
Lind really wants to be the team HR leader
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
now that is more like it!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Couldn't lay off those sliders
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
sigh
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
who pitches this inning?
Carlson?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
or will Accardo make his first appearance?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it's Jesse
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
jamie keeps saying that cito doesn't want to use accardo if he can avoid it
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
why?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
did he just fly in or something?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
i guess it was a long flight from las vegas and he wants to let him rest a bit
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
that makes sense
don’t know if he is going to get out of this game without using him, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
after big days yesterday
Hill and Rolen have left 10 on base today between them.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good start for Carlson
strikes out Rollins
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
great inning
few more like that and we’ll be calling you Cy again
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
lets say it again
NOW would be a great time for Wells to break out of his HR slump
it would have been
unfortunately he struck out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
rolen looked like he was unsure about trying for a double at first
but then turned on the jets
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
all right!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Wooo, finally caught up to the live feed
Started only 45 minutes late…
How’s everyone doing?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
There it is
Beauty!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
There we go
Rollins is not having good days against us is he? Either booting grounders or just being in the wrong spot at the wrong time
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
doing well at the plate, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Ah, that's unfortunate :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
C'mon Rios
Let’s tag something.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
w00t!!!!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Here we go Lyle. Crank dat.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
let's go Lyle
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Did so there
Bases loaded though haven’t been great for us this series though.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
or lose it, possibly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Oh ya, I'd love to see it.
How much is a bases loaded walk worth for value?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
late in a tie game
is worth a ton
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
come on Chavez
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yikes, way too close
Lazy baserunning.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
good call or bad call?
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bad very bad
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
too much writing in bold.
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Here we go Jose.
Work the BB
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
come on Jose
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Good time for the no contact machine
Against a pitcher not forcing contact
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
pretty strange move for them
to stick with Romero, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Guess not.
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he somehow manages to baffle hitters
and umpires.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
umps extends the zopne on the 3-0 count
as always
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
And again on the 3-1
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
mlb.tv commercial
“Do you have what it takes to be an umpire?” . . . if that’s all it takes, then I think we all do
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
LOL
Well ya. I can’t remember who linked to it, but someone was looking at PitchFX data and showed that umps strike zones are intentionally altered to even the count up, regardless of who it is in favor of.
I say that’s unprofessional, but I guess if every ump is doing it….
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
if i was Jose there, i'd be arguing like there was no tomorrow
especially since he’ll be out of the game anyway most likely
Oh ya, definitely
Just blow up and make a fuss.
Have we had any players ejected yet this year?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
yea but, when he is good he is very very good and when he is not he is terrible … (wll just for that day)
The reliever with a curl in the middle of his forehead?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
league throws a nice one
to K howard.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Hawaii K-0 is here tonight.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
to quote Jamie Moyer
“Baseball is weird.”
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
by the way
jayson werth is a good player, but what a series he’s having
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
that hasn't worked out very well for anyone
this season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he's the closer now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I know
but he’s to pitch an inning still, right?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
definitely
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it woudl make sense
considering that the pitcher doesn’t bat until next inning probably
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
likely could depend on what the jays do this inning.
pitcher’s slot doesn’t come up for a while at least
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
next inning is the bottom of the phillies order
so you could try to coax another inning from League
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Which starter's bullpen day is today?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Cecil pitched monday
didn’t he?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good point there
didn’t think of that.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I can imagine they would have sent him ahead to Washington
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
not like it's a long trip from Philly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yeah, but if you're putting a guy on a redeye
are you gonna make him come to the ballpark and then take another flight?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
no, I wouldn't think so
assuming they’re flying. It’s like a 2 hour drive
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
If it's their own plane
then I assume they have to keep it with the team
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yeah, could be
I have no clue
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
if cito didnt want to go to accardo
i cant imagine he’d want to go to cecl
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
good job marco
looks like that ball was hit harder than it looked or rollins was playing out of position/got a bad jump
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I keep on thinking that Scutaro has already gotten on base 3 times...
He wouldn’t do it again…but then he does
same old Scoot
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
come on Vernon
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not quite crushed
but i’ll take it!
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
wells scalded that!
at least thats what i’m telling myself
yes!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
why do philly fans boo rolen?
wasn’t he traded mid-season?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
nice that I'm not the only one that uses interesting spelling...but yeah philly fans are nuts...
they still boo Drew
the booing is one thing
what about when they were throwing D-cell batteries at him?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I was at a spring game and my son was playing with a little boy from Philly and all was well
then JD Drew came to bat…..
at least JD Drew
is annoying. Who boos Frank Catalanotto???!!!!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
did a little reading
looks like rolen turned down a 7 yr 90 million dollar offer from the phillies
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
he had some negative things to say about the organization
after he was traded. also, they’re philly fans. I mean, Jays fans booed Frank Catalanotto of all people though, so it’s not like we can talk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
they booed Delgado
though not everyone
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
who was it who complained about toronto fans earlier this season
calling us “hockey fans”?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Yup
Just as long as we don’t see an infield pop-up.
Sick of bases loaded and nothing to show from it.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
depending on the score
i wouldn’t mind going to beej
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
it's not ideal
the longer the wait gets, the less it matters though, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it would have been Lyle's job to
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
made one just before
to almost get scoot, too. jays should have been paying attention there.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
ruiz is one catcher
i think guys should actually ram. the way he blocks the plate really puts him into a position where he is vulnerable.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
you would not want to get hit
by Vernon Wells coming down the line. mass x acceleration, and Wells is a big dude who moves fast
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that's just my point
and if you look at how he blocked the plate, he had a really high centre of gravity
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
can we get the overbay classic please
ez double
Ya, that'd be ideal.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Granted I am watching Gameday and not the actual game...
…but what was Cito thinking by having Camp and Dirk only combine for 1.1 innings, especially with Mills going less than 4?
had to pinch hit for each of them
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
arguably he could have tried to get Mills to finish the inning and saved a pitcher
but things weren’t going well in that regard
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Thanks for clearing that up.
I personally hate the DH, it’s bad for the game. But to have teams who build their rosters around an extra hitter play into the rules of a non-DH league is stupid. Just another reason why interleague is another terrible idea by Mr. Selig.
From a statistical standpoint,
there is very little to suggest that that is tied (or not tied) to the different rules. Plus, the talent level in the AL has been a lot better than its counterpart for awhile.
yeah but hard to argue the AL is being screwed when they is winning the battle
NL teams don’t paid someone millions to DH
I doubt it's the rules that make most of the difference in record
but it does favor the AL
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I feel like it favors large-market AL teams
but not so much small-market or mid-market ones who can’t necessarily afford to pay millions for a DH (and if they are, then they are not using that money to fill a different position).
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I am suggesting that both leagues are being screwed.
Interleague is a bad idea. The two leagues have a completely different brand of baseball, and forcing EITHER league to conform until the World Series is absolutely ridiculous. Sorry that I neglected to make that point earlier.
We're winning
Can’t be a goat at this point.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
hate to fault a guy for walking
but I feel like we’re not getting the most out of Lyle’s plate discipline by batting him where we are
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
certainly nothing against Chavez, he's fine
but Lyle has walked twice with RISP this game and then Raul has gotten out. I would just rather hit Lyle higher in the order
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
HOLY BEARD BATMAN!
Look at Accardo’s mountain man look!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
weird look for Las Vegas, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Oh ya, geez, gotta be a bit warmish, lol
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
If only Chavez wasn't as slow as molasses....
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
sigh...can't complain
except, thats three innings where nothing happened after the bases got loaded
wish we had gotten one more
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Yes, it's always better to be up 7-5 than down 5-7
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Hey, Rios got his deep fly ball
Not his fault Mayberry made an amazing throw.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
could say the same about scoot two days ago
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Was there a mistake this time?
Mayberry had to throw hard AND accurate to get him.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Not disagreeing with you
Just saying that Scoot did his job two days ago.
And, to be fair, Mayberry’s throw to try and nab scoot on Wells’s RBI single was just as good as the throw to get wells.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
We didn't complain about what Scoot did two days ago
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
so it's League or Ryan
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Uhoh, League's 2nd inning
Let’s see how this goes.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Alright, there's another K
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
so far so good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that stat is crazy
Phillies have now struck out 67 times in 6 games
Hey fellas, good game?
I see we are winning but doesn’t look like Mills did much?
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 18, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
pretty unimpressive
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I wasn't expecting that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
now I have to root against Stairs
even though I love Stairs…ugh
How Carlson gets burned out
here is some data on Carlson I have been messing with .. on average Carlson gives up 0.55 ER per outing
however, Carlson needs to get rested
if Carlson comes out 4 times in 4 days, his ER jumps to 2.00, if he comes out 4 times in 5 days his ER is 1.71, if he comes out 4 times in 6 days his ER is 0.80, if he comes out 4 times in 7 days his ER falls to 0.60 and if Carlson comes out 4 times in 8 days his ER is 0.55
bottom line, Carlson seems most effective as an every other day reliever and the more you use him, the more his effectiveness falls off
How did Carlson do on limited rest last year?
If he had trouble pitching on consecutive days last year, then you might have a point.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
umm yea, are you seriously telling me that frequency of play (a measure of tiredness) and performance are not related … if so, I would say you need your R-squared gauge checked ;-)
No, I'm not saying that
but Carlson has had a few really bad outings this year. You’re implying that they’re solely due to overpitching. I’m just saying, look at what he did last year. If he had the same problems last year, then you have a point. If he didn’t, I’d say that you could be looking at coincidences.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
makes sense
just a little less on that slurve he throws and it could get rocked
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that's funny
that was Frasor’s strength last year
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Don't you mean League?
Frasor isn’t in yet…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Well ya, now.
But not at the comment time.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Oh lord... heart attack
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
So is Barajas taking the 9th spot and Frasor taking the 8th?
Is that was they mean by the double switch?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Apparently not...
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Gotcha
I didn’t know what it means.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Kind of funny
NL fans are so used to double-switching they can do it in their sleep. Really confuses AL fans though, at least that is the one good thing about interleague play
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
we cannot do extras...I would prefer a loss right here than extras
it will kill our pitching staff
Oh FFS
Brutal. We’re trying to give another game away. Let’s see how it goes.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
this game has been poorly managed
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yup
Where is Ron or Norm to remind us of that fact? I couldn’t argue with them over that today.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
we might as well have lost now
since the phils are so clutch
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
If only they Jays had the mental toughness to win
but they watch too much Hulu.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Brains turning to Mush?
I love the latest one with Dennis Leary
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Gotta think that he is gonna stay over Barrett at this point right?
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
i wouldn't love to see him injure his toe if he hits a grounder, though.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Chavez, thank goodness for you
Couple runners gunned out and that HR…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Crap, even more so now.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
PS - are there no other coaches in the dugout? Can no one else speak up and get Barajas ready or at least remind Cito of the opportunity?
Why have 4 or 5 coaches in the dugout if no one will point out mistakes…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Can you imagine him being a fulltime NL manager?
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
He'd have more than 9 games a year of experience
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I'd take him
over Willie Randolph
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
who also never seemed to master
the double switch
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Or his replacement
Jerry Manuel . . . basically just Willie Randolph, but he talks cooler.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
HAHAH
Cito is making you look like a fool!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
having had to squat might have distracted him
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
yeah all the parelle universe things come in...
Rod calls a better pitch and Frasor doesn’t give up the tying single
agreed
or a worse pitch and victorino parks it. anything’s possible, of course
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Can we got to a parelle universe where this conversation ends?
My head is starting to hurt……
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
OH MY GOD
Did that just happen? BARAJAS!!! Deepest part of the park too…. Holy crap.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Cito=genius!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Let's not forget though that BJ Ryan is going to be in to close...
Or Accardo, I guess, but who knows
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
scoot didnt
which is why he worked for that walk
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Oh god....
Im laughing in my cubicle at work and I just got the evil eye from one of my co-workers…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
What a shot!!!!!
the catchers are doing so good today
Haha
I am at the office and have no TV, following with this thread is hilarious!
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 18, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
There are TVs in my office,
But they are always on BNN and another market channel….. I get in trouble when I change em. Although when the world Juniors are on for hockey they have no problem… prejudiced against baseball…
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Beej or Accardo
2006 closer turned 2007 TJ casualty, or 2007 closer turned almost 2008 TJ casualty?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Accardo does pretty well against lefties
Ryan was pretty shaky yesterday
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
what part of you doesn't want to see that?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
so that part enjoys seeing BJ pitch badly?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Yes do tell and we shall proceed to beat that spot into submission
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
another at bat
another base…when will the doubters accept that Scutaro doesn’t appear to be faltering
this is why I don't get worked up about managerial tactics
unless they get players hurt
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Oh god
This is going to be stressful. Please Beej. Please. I want to love you again.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Deeeeep Breaths....
1….2….3….. breathe…..
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
here goes nothing....
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
if he gets Howard, he stays in
you heard it here first
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
anyway, Utley's up first isn't he?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Ibanez is on the DL now isnt he?
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
only needed it for those cold vegas nights, i guess.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Please BJ, no walks today.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
aarghhh I can't take it
dont walk Utley please please
Ugh
….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
I can't watch...
I think BJ might leave something elevated…. and game over.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
i think utley might try and run here
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
come on, bj, reach back and give him the gas!
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
got him with the slider.
so good call on your part . . . and barajas’s.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
There was no double switch
Chavez still behind the plate/
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Didn't he double switch barajas in to catch
when he brought ryan in to pitch? No?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Gameday didn't mention anything
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Woooo
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 18, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
Hoooooboy
Good work BJ. C’mon Jeremy, 1 grounder to end it. Do it fast.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
the mighty Beej!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Probably a stupid question
Why was Frasor pulled? Was he pinch hit for?
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 18, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, because they didn't do the double switch
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
he probably knows what it is
just not how to do it properly
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by the way, aa
last season, almost every time carlson gave up runs, he had at least one day of rest on the preceeding day.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
yep
i looked up Carlson’s numbers from last year and there is not much statistical difference between days of rest and ER given up … although looking at least year’s numbers, Carlson was just amazing and certainly better than his numbers this year (which are still quite good)
interesting
to nitpick – jessef, you can only have one day of rest per day (“he had at least one day of rest on the preceeding day” – poorly written sentence :) )
but Carlson has been quite good – maybe it’s just that he’s had a few bad games (which is definitely true) but they’ve been in close games so we remember them more. but i certainly would love to see him get back to 2008 Cy
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
Wow, he was a little steamed...
Wasn’t looking on Gameday, was there a case?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Attaboy Wells!
Great grab!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Vernon! Vernon!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
COME ON JEREMY!!!!!!!!
I beleive!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
that's the kind of play
that gets the pitcher’s WPA added to yours for JotD purposes!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Aw crap.
Ok, next guy. It was a grounder, but not to anyone.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
....meekly jays win
boy that was exhausting…but man was it satisfying
what a game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
what a nerve wrecking game!!!1
omg i was so nervous the whole game
Dunn is going to hit a Home Run
And then hold up a sign that says I don’t care!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
he and Rolen
you’ve heard of the Bash Brothers? meet the Apathy Brothers
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 18, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rolen ran pretty hard for that double
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
If he cared
It would have been a triple
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
like they say
better lucky than good but better good than gritty
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
Damn Damn Damn
At work so can’t see the highlites.. want to see that Wells Catch
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Im cryin on the inside now.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
No, Pissed I missed the game and the catch...
Happy they won, but I should of buggered off work for the afternoon.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Yeah but you only watch the highlights in gameday if you subscribe to it
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
not to belabour the point
but it was a pretty good day at the office for the much-maligned Wells
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Don't forget the DP
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Magic Number: 101
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Sweeeeep
been a while
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
hey guys
for all our craziness, ain’t nothin’ wrong with 6 over .500
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
JoD Accardo, baragjas, scoot, lind.overbay, and I'd say wells
chavez, rolin and inglett honorable mention?
I'd go honourable
on Carlson too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
League doesn't come close with the HR and putting the tying run on base?
I know Frasor let him get in but still….
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
I got to watch the Millar at bat when the Jays loaded up the inning in the tv downstairs in the lunchroom. He did not look good at all.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
I didn't like Bautista's
some of the calls maybe were questionable, but he seemed averse to swinging to me
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it was unfortunate
that it worked out the way it did, he looked great in the first inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't so much mind
those boring 7-1 wins behind lights-out pitching either, but yeah
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
well, it's after 5 here so I'd better go get some work done!
cheers, fellas. Great game, great thread today
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
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