As Good as Yesterday's Game Was.....Today's Was Bad
by Tom Dakers on Jun 19, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
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PrintBlue Jays 1 Nationals 2 (11 innings)
Well if you can only score 1 run in 11 innings against the worst team in baseball, you don't deserve a win. We pitched well, but only 7 hits in 11 innings against a bunch of bad pitchers isn't good.
Is kind of funny that the big moment of the game was a move by Cito. 2 outs, 2 on and Rod Barajas up before the pitchers spot and us down by a run. Rod singles driving home the tying run. I really figured if Rod walked then Cito would pinch hit for Brian Tallet. When it was tied, I figured he wouldn't because we used everyone in the bullpen yesterday. But Cito took him out and Joe Inglett flied out to left. He hit the ball decent but found a glove. With the extras the bullpen had to throw 6 innings. I mean it really doesn't matter, since we didn't score again we weren't going to win. But after burning the whole pen yesterday I was sure Cito would have wanted 7 or so innings from Tallet. Then he takes him out of the game after 5. And we used everyone in our pen, except for BJ. Thank you Cito for that one small mercy, after 4 hours of that, I don't think I could have handled Ryan tonight.
Anyway Jays of the Day are Jeremy Accardo (.243 WPA, he was amazing for 2 innings, why wasn't he up before now?), Shawn Camp (.235), Brandon League (.143), Tallet (.132) and Alex Rios (.120). Honorable mention to Jesse Carlson. Suckage Jays....yeah there were a few of those too Jason Frasor (-.357, he was terrible), Adam Lind (-.220, 0 for 5), Aaron Hill (-.206), Dirk Hayhurst (-.146, sorry Hugo, he looked terrible too), Kevin Millar (-.143, a terrible pinch hit attempt, can we release him now? please?) and Marco Scutaro (-.104).
The only guy with more than 1 hit was Vernon Wells, he would have had 3 expect for an amazing catch by Nationals center fielder, Willie Harris. Look for the highlight of that one. Vernon made great catch too, earlier in the game.
Tomorrow night Brett Cecil goes for the Jays while Ross Detwiler (0-3, 5.23) starts for the Nats. For more on Detwiler look read Jessef's post here.
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So glad you mentioned the decision of taking out Tallet...
it was beyond goofy, but that is what we have come to expect. If it was up to me, I think I would have let Tallet stay in even if they did walk Barajas, because he was pitching so well. At the time you would have thought we would score on their terrible relief pitchers, but we didn’t. The only thing I would somewhat disagree is that it could matter that Cito used all the pitchers. We might need them tomorrow and Sunday.
Anyway, the mystery of this team continues. And they win despite less than stellar managing.
by Chesapeake Ron on Jun 20, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
yuck!!
Jays’ looked lifeless against Florida but sweep the Phillies. Even though they tried to give the Phillies two of the games. Now lifeless again in Washington. I think Scutaro is the definitely the key to the Jay offense. If he isn’t getting on 3 or 4 times a game, they don’t score. That’s why Overbay should be batting second or third, he walks a lot. Actually, for a run producer he walks too much. Very hard to drive in runs looking for the walk. But since he is getting on, move him up in the order….. Cito!
he does walk a lot
but when he hits, he hits for power, so i’d actually like to see him moved up just based on OBP, but whaddaya gonna do… just nice to see excellent production.
and yes. Millar has been brutal.
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Cito has no idea how to manage a baseball game.
He’s a great players manager, but today is a clear sign he has no clue how to actually manage. Exhibit “A”. You just played a game in which all seven of your relievers had to pitch, and need a good effort from your starter to eat innings and go deep. So he pinch hits for Tallet after 5 innings and ~75 or so pitches. For what? He clearly wasnt trying to score a run, he sent up Joe Inglett for god sake (this isnt last year, he is hitting ~.150 for god’s sake). Low and behold, your down to tired relievers in an extra inning game.
His critism of the NL game (go ahead, tell the pitchers never to swing, im sure the opponents will love the 3-4 guaranteed outs that will get them a game, after all, running is hard), as well as his lack of a clue makes me wonder how the hell he won two world series.
has no idea?
just because he makes different choices than I would doesn’t mean he has no idea. Baseball isn’t science…there is no ‘right’ answer. I wouldn’t have pinch hit. He did…wasn’t a bad move. Inglett is not a bad hitter….batting .150 for a handful of at bats means nothing. the term small size was built for that. Inglett singled as a pinch hitter just yesterday. He hit the ball hard today, it found a glove. If it didn’t find a glove the Jays win and Cito is a genus.
inglett didn't hit the ball that hard
and i hate it when he pinch hits and flies out on the first pitch . . . i know he knows a lot more about hitting than i do and if that ball had found a hole I would have been satisfied, but wouldn’t you want to at least take one for your timing?
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
ugh, i really can't stand o'bay hitting 7th
especially with no DH. he gets on base ahead of barajas, and the pitchers spot. he skills are totally wasted. i don’t think cito really likes his game. i don’t think he likes guys that take a ton of pitches like lyle. a lineup of scutaro, overbay, rolen, lind…. would be great, but unfortunately will never happen.
i don't know about him not liking his game
cito’s the one who said scoot should lead off when no one agreed. he’s moved rolen up to fourth in the lineup. he clearly loves adam lind. i think you can make a case that he just doesn’t like overbay, but i don’t think he minds his skillset. heck, it’s the same kind of batting style the guy he chose as batting coach used.
"The NY Mets are my favorite squadron" -- Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
it's only one game
the series is still very winnable
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Which hitter-pitcher matchup would players like to watch?
Not sure if this has been posted, but go to http://espn.go.com/mlb/ and in the “in case you missed it” section, it asks MLB players what match up they would love to see and it is Halladay against Pujols.
Clearly Cito is a players manager and terrible in game manager, but it would be nice if he had some hitting pieces off the bench, that is JP’s job or promote one of the Triple A guys hitting and give them a shot, even if they are carrer Minor Leaguers, cant be worse then Inglett and Bautista.
by willie stargell on Jun 20, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
This game was pathetic. Hate to say it, but if the Jays don’t start finding some consistency and beating teams like this, they aren’t going to be going far. All that promise they showed in the series against Phillies seems to have disappeared for this game. Pitching was fine, but what the heck happened to their offense…again. Hopefully they can play better and win the next two.
I know this team was not supposed to play well this year
but you have to beat a team like the Nationals. If we win the next two games, then that’s a different story and that’s what I hoped for. Though, I hate to say it, but right now it seems like the term “momentum” does not exist in the Jays’ vocabulary. They win a series against the Red Sox, Phillies, etc. You would be thinking, “Oh, maybe they’ll kick it up a notch against this next team! After all, they’ve played like crap all year.” Next we know, the Jays get swept by that very team.
I hope for the best for these Jays, and hope they can win this series.
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