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After Many Glasses of Work, I Get Paid: GameThread for Toronto Blue Jays at Washington Nationals, 20 June 2009, 7:05 PM EDT

Toronto Blue Jays at Washington Nationals, Jun 20, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


Well, last night sucked, but let's hope tonight goes a bit better.  Brett Cecil makes his return to the major league club, while the Nats send Ross Detwiler to the mound.  There's nothing you can do about some losses, but hopefully we can bounce back tonight with a win and take the series tomorrow.  Millar starts tonight for Overbay against the lefty and Raul Chavez spells Rod Barajas.





W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Brett Cecil 2-1 4.38 1.38 18 6


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Ross Detwiler 0-3 5.23 1.53 23 14


Tonight's thread title comes courtesy of They Might Be Giants.

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'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm here

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing doing around that Hill walk

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Curse the swinging bunt

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not good.

we need him to go deep in the game

by elpikiman on Jun 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

via Bastian:

“The fans dressed as umps behind home plate yesterday (and for one game earlier this year), got to meet the Jays today at the tean’s request.”

you’ve got to be kidding me. i guess their starvation for attention paid off

by harrison1 on Jun 20, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we havent won a game....

when they dress up as umps….

by Aquamelli on Jun 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stike em out

Throw em out!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another double play

This one of the K+CS variety

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chavez with the leadoff single

allowing Cecil to bunt

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From the RH side of the plate

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he fails

but there’s a WP

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vespa and Hill strand Chavez at second

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Both pitchers batting right-handed this game

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice quick inning for Cecil

3 grounders, 7 pitches

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen with the 1 out single up the middle

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

looked like it might be a hit at first

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't even a strike

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, okay, the strike zone isn't rectangular

so it might have been called a strike.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

freakin awesome, the mockumps got invited onto the field

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god, the fake umps got to call the Presidents race.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caltrops up!

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love the swipe tag at second

with the runner at first

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harris robs us of another hit

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another series of failed bunts by Cecil

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd at bat in MLB, cannot really blame the guy

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play by Hill

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First extra base hit of the game

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he gets to third because Cecil doesn't hold him on

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm expecting Harris to steal home now

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hung a slider up and in

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sac fly less embarrassing.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the mockumps got a beer

 i wonder if that was on the house for going out on the field mid-inning

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cecil looking good so far

one run in 5 innings …. it is up to the Jays to start generating some offense here

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad our advance scouts just watch Sunday Night Baseball

and thus have never seen the Nationals

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The VWHAS is down to Guarded, I think

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's really frustrating when Wells gets to a fly ball and drops it

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jun 20, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he had the wall coming up on him etc … i m not sure it is an error …. we shall see how they score it

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think if it was open field he woud have got it … cannot really blame VW that mucb

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they hold on tonite, that is 4 straight vs. AL east .. although the have 1 loss to Yanks and 3 losses to Rays

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is “unteachable”

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Besides Denbo came in preaching discipline and taking pitches and that didn’t do so well…

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good.. BJ....

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy Crap!

Double switch!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah missed it last night, Didnt know he did it

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

dodged that bullet

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woohoo!

Runner Stranded

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come On Joe!

Do that VooDoo that you Do so well!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm

This is not what our Bullpen needed…

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hokay, I'm here

Time to win it.

I got here just in time to watch Rolen hit the game tying RBI.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BEAUTY! Way to paint the outside corner!

K’s Dunn

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa... Ummm

Ok Ill take it

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

I thought it wasn’t bad at first, but just looking at Gameday shows it fully outside the zone.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would probly have to go with Accardo

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cito said at the beginning of the game that they only had about 3-4 people available.

Accardo has already gone two days in a row. And pitched a bit too

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Mac

Why not?

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, it couldn't hurt.

The man wears a uniform… should be eligible :P

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bodes well

Let’s drive him in.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Lead off Walk Scoot

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, barely tagged second...

Just about missed it… That would have been nice.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh FFS

GIDP! YAY!

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to say

the missed double switch the other night in Philly didnt cost us the game.

MIllar hasn’t cost us the game at first.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that and Im not arguing that.

But it is hard to say whether or not we would have won games with the moves. Too many variables

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i said "i'd bet"...

not “this will happen”

by Andy Mc on Jun 20, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok....

And Im just saying its hard to say for sure.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Job Camp

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Richmond up in the pen

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how about squeezing an inning out of tallet

he did not do a complete game yesterday cuz he had to be pulled for pinch hit

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on a side note

those fake umps are hilarious!!!!

by elpikiman on Jun 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did u see early on

they were invited onto the field to adjudicate the presidential race and than toss one out .. it was hilarious

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

The attention will make them worse

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea but....

gameday doesnt show ya the sick movement that the fastball had… started right down broadway and went up as it got to the plate….i think more majors then not would have swung at that pitch

by Aquamelli on Jun 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok... So double switch will Millar and Overbay with Richmond coming in?

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

?

they are both in the game

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overbay came in for the pitcher batting and Millar was at 1st

So you switch their defensive positions and then sub in Richmond for Millar on the mound.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know its not a full double switch but the same premise

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cant get the Save. He isn't pitching with the lead.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overbay is. Cito did switch em around

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, Richmond

looking great out of the pen

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can someone give me a quick rundown of all the subbed hitters?

Where/how did Rios get removed for Inglett is mainly the thing I’m curious about.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a double switch to take Ryan out of the game in the 7th

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check that sorry.

It was the 8th not 7th

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK...

I have to admit – I don’t really understand what that means. Grew up always watching AL in the DH era, so I have no experience with NL outside of the recent interleague play

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright.

You can have players switch defensive positions in game. So basically it means that Ryan and Rios switched defensive positions. Then Inglett came in for Ryan in Left, and Camp came in for Rios on the mound.

Rios was one of the last to bat the previous half inning so all of sudden it is going to be 8 or 9 batters before the pitcher has to hit again going forward.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doh!, I mean Inglett came in for Ryan in Right...

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooooooh

KK, that makes sense, thanks.

I’ve been trying to piece things together off Gameday and ESPN’s play by play but couldn’t figure it out. Thanks for clarifying.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Worries

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just explained it to my dad too, he says thanks

Though he also says that maybe the DH is easier :P

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easier. And usually more exciting

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I don't know if you saw

But I was being very vocal during the Philly series about how much I hated the pitchers hitting… especially in bases loaded situations.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just takes something out of it

Kills a rally or takes a pitcher out of a game.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh ya, definitely

Exhibit A – Tallet last night.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The crowd is chanting Marco... POLO!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright

DP time

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let him bunt the ball

lots of things can go wrong there

by REMO on Jun 20, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Harris has absolutely killed us this series.

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jun 20, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Goddamnit

Really needed a bullpen today…

Or an offense. FFS. Depressing to watch. I need to go swear elsewhere. Night all.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

this one was on the offense … yesterday too .. you can only lean on pitching so much

by aagoodfella on Jun 20, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man that's frustrating.

We literally beat the crap out of the ball in Philly against the world champs then absolutely forget anything we know about hitting against the worst team in baseball. Seriously, I like rollercoasters as much as the next guy, but this just is maddening to watch.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

un f'ing real

sweep the defending champs… and drop 2 straight to the worst team in the league

ugh

by Aquamelli on Jun 20, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya, I stand corrected from my initial post.

I can’t believe that the Nats (THE FREAKING NATIONALS!) bullpen has held us essentially scoreless for 4.1 innings today and 5.1 yesteday. More than an entire game against the worst bullpen in the league and not a single run. Un-freaking-beleivable.

I feel sick to my stomach watching this crap sometimes.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 20, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first post! How is everyone doing north of the border? Very frustrating that we dropped the first two against the Nats after sweeping the Phills. But don’t panic, tomorrow I will be at the game and the Jays have never lost when I’ve seen them play.

by Jaysallday on Jun 20, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome!

Alright… I’ve calmed down a bit from that debacle, so I feel I can calmly welcome you here.

I certainly hope you’re right about tomorrow – I think I’ve been quoted as saying that if we get swept by the Nationals I will swear off baseball this year. While I’m certain I’d be more productive without the 3 hours a day eaten up by Jays games, I honestly don’t mind since it’s the summer….

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Jun 21, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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