I've Been Hearing You Say Some Things That You Don't Mean: 6/27 Game Preview and Thread, Phillies at Jays
by hugo on Jun 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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The Jays look to continue their excellence when playing the Philadelphia Phillies this afternoon after a big win yesterday behind some nice hitting and great pitching by Ricky Romero.
Jordan Bastian is now reporting that Rod Barajas was not placed on the DL yesterday (meaning, I guess, that Kyle Phillips hasn't been called up). Rod apparently felt better today and is now day-to-day. So that's good news, I guess. I hope the Jays don't do anything that could reaggravate the injury - you know how hammies are.
Unfortunately, it's a good news-bad (though not unexpected) news from Bastian today:
Cito, asked if Downs will be ready when eligible to come off DL: "I hope he is but I really dont know. I have no confidence in that at all."
The Jays have another lefty going today in Brad Mills. Mills really struggled in his first ever mlb start so let's hope that he can settle down and throw strikes this time. The Phillies aren't generally a forgiving offense (though as a lefty Mills certainly has the advantage. The Phills counter with a lefty of their own in J.A. Happ. The Jays put out possibly their worst possible offensive lineup today, featuring Kevin Millar batting cleanup and hitting 4th, Jose Bautista in leftfield, Raul Chavez behind the plate, and Sir John MacDonald at the hot corner.
Today's title is in honour of Rod and comes from the great Ted Leo and the Pharmacists song "La Costa Brava." I'm a huge Ted Leo fan. The little one and I had an enjoyable morning - we went for a nice long hike before it got too hot (wow, is she ever getting heavy) and now I'm sitting back and ready for some baseball. Let's go Jays!
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6 straight high fastballs
2 of them called strikes. Not a great start for Mills.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Doc can't get back soon enough
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
you never know though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
telling him what to do
remember that one time he came out … forgot who the pitcher was … and itwas like night and day …. pitcher started getting everyone out
i was just thinking how a 2-0 top of 1st deficit could be overcome
… premature thinking
I'm not actually sure why he's up
other than to send a message to Purcey
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he can fall back on engineering if need be
still …. he might be upgradeable
he's hardly the first pitcher
to break into the big leagues with two bad starts
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yep … and his pitching style looks much like Romero … so I think he has a reasonable chance of making it …. maybe if whoever said “let me work with Romero” did the same for Mills, the Jays would have another strong arm in the org
Arnsberg?
The difference is Romero had been around long enough that he was approaching bust territory. Mills was drafted in 2007, right?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yea, pretty sure arnsberg
but really, their pitches (style and look) seem very comparable to me … so it should not be too much different to get Mills working IMHO
I don't disagree that they're similar, but Romero has a better fastball
and a better change. Mills has a better slider
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
How does this guy continue getting trotted out there to start games? Terrible in AAA, even worse in the majors. Is there no one better in the minors?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He'll be back in the minors on Monday when Doc is activated
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Hopefully he’ll be sent to A ball….haha
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
True….could be that the Phillies have his number too….but this is a pretty bad start….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yeah...but then the important term is 'a' bad start...
if we dumped everyone that has a few bad innings into A-ball we aren’t going to have many pitchers
that was sarcasm!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I wouldn't say he was terrible in AAA
mediocre, more like. Don’t forget he had barely even pitched at AA before this season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
well his ERA wasn't that bad in Vegas....Lopez has been bad the last month..
and they like him, he did well this spring
Should have beena homer
Why do ours die on the track?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
tha scott tv commercial
it’s hilarious!!!!!!!!
more innings like that please
and we’ll be right back in this thing
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Of course he strikes out the side! That’ll shut me up
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
if you poked mayberry when he was coming for that ball
would u get tossed?
least
we are hitting it hard
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
keep hitting it like that
sooner or later it is gonna get through
not an out ...
but still amazing grab by VW
seriously?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
?????
the switched the first inning pitcher with this one
Ya, I was so glad to be part of that play here
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Alright, time for some runs
Let’s go O!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Not what I meant...
And why, oh why, is Millar hitting 4th?! Whoever said that maybe the Jays just aren’t trying to win today – you’re right.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
JA Happ is one of those pitchers
Who lulls you to a loss.
Similar to Maddux, but not really
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, ya
But running out your “B” squad to support your youngest and most prone to failure pitcher… not the best choice.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Maybe he reminds of Joe Carter?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Without the hitting or defense?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Hmmm, I was trying to be sarcastic...
LOL, I obviously was too young to remember anything other than “Touch ’Em All Joe!”
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Overbay's still really bad against lefties
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
He's been keeping the core players at fixed points in the lineup
That only leaves the subs to move around when guys get days off
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Jason must really hate Toronto to hit the Jays like that
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
the triple which Werth needs
is the hardest hit to achieve in the cycle, IMHO
Good call on a lousy start
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaaaaand... time for the hook.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
wow when cito wants to lose a game
he sure knows how to do it
oh he didn't 'want to lose the game'
is possible to believe different things without it meaning they don’t want to win
This is just what the day game after a night game lineup looks like
when you merge it with the against a lefty lineup.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
AL Managers - take note
This is how you beat the Jays at least once a series. Slot a lefty in when you are playing a day game following a night game. You get a AAAA lineup basically.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Are we talking today as a whole or just in general?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
When John MacDonald is the offensive star, you know you're in trouble
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
if we get beaten really good today, there will be extra motivation for revenge torrow
sounds like its from Sun’s Art of War no?
If you are defeated, get vengeance from beyond the grave
Doesn’t sound like something Sun Tzu would say.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
maybe cito just wanted
bj and carlson to pitch, and johnny mac to get a start
Time to break out the Phillies Voodoo Doll
And start jamming needles in for a June 4, 1989 style miracle.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
Well, so much for that idea.
Crap. I seem to be jinxing the hitters.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose can swing?
Those were some pretty strong hacks by Jose.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
Yay BJ.
Serving up them homers
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
We needed Frasor?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Got Jason Frasor in return
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I made a cake that says "BJ GOT A 1-2-3 Inning"
Still waiting to eat it.
Probably won’t cause it’s all moldy and stuff.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
Lefty starter on the mound
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnny Mac!
Again!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
we could platoon him with rios
when he’s on one of his ‘streaks’
Anyone else surprised Rance knows what "deluge" is?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Even still - surprised, yes.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
We have 4 hits and 2 double plays
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
It's a nice, clean 2:1. It makes me all tingly-wingly inside.
/sarcasm
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
look on the bright side
we could’ve gotten no hit today by Happ!
An extra base hit for Hill
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
shutout isn't that bad
means we didn’t show up – or the guy was too tough – better than 12-10 anyday
I disagree heartily
Shutouts are embarrasing and just suck to watch. At least in a 12-10 game your own team is giving you a chance to cheer once in a while, rather than GIDP or popping up to the infield.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Ya, that's what I was trying to say
I’d rather see action.
If I am going to see a shutout, I’d rather see a 1-0 shutout loss than a 12-0 loss. At least the 1-0 loss is one where the game is in question with every at bat.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
yeah I'd much rather watch that loss to the Reds where the game was fun
don’t expect to win each game
This game just sucks
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
its a perfect opportunity
for the ‘pressure-poor’ hitters to showcase their talents
and playing badly can be entertaining too
as long as you’re not expecting anything
Hmmm. Wells is out, Adams is in.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Yup, might as well.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
And the Phillies hits keep on coming...
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
for example
this would be a great time
to see how many home runs in a game we can allow
Don't forget that you can reply to individual comment to keep them all nested into the same conversation
I’m assuming you’re responding to either my or Tom’s response to your 12-0 v 12-10 comment.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
yeah - i think i'm pissing everyone off right now
i’ll go do something else – have a good day all
LOL, I'm not saying you're pissing us off
Just that it’s easier to have a discussion if your responses to our arguments are in the same spot. At least that way we know who/what you’re responding to.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
should've let bj continue
we might need league tomorrow
Attaboy Johnny Mac
Holds the runner – that 1 run counts :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Johnny Mac is pretty much the only Jay who hasn't sucked
Not missing anything with the glove
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
he did, I was going to say make an error, but I see it wasn't ruled an error....
but made a bad throw
Really, not an error? Man, I thought that was going to be one for sure.
Weird. Scorekeeper is obviously a J-Mac fan.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Heh, reminded me of myself there
My downfall on defense is frequently not charging the ball… course I have the arm to still make the play, but….
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Hmmm, that sounded cocky
Did not mean it as such.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Ya, I just don't trust the infield dirt to not break my face
Damn you vanity!
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Missed that play when I was sobbing in agony over the Phils 1st and 4th.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhg, I don't want to see this Game in a Flash
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
It would be easier than watching it in real time
So far I’ve cleaned the kitchen and loaded the dishwasher.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
What was that?!
The ball was in the catcher’s glove by the time Millar thought to swing.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Is it wrong to miss Mench?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Throw him a damn strike
What’s the worst thing is he going to do???? Oh right…
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
Walking him gave the Phillies Fans something to boo about in this game.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
My dad and I are going to be sorting out reservations/bookings this week.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Hmmm, we'll have to check that out.
I think my mom is going to come down too – lots of quilting stores out there – so we might have to get the hotel approved by her :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Reaaaaally... intriguing.
Definitely will be looking into it then.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
looks like could get a 4 star place for like $75 a night...but that was for 2 I think...
I don’t want to stay in a dive but don’t want to pay $250 a night
Ya, that's our dilema as well
That would be a sweet deal, though I’m wondering how likely it will be to get a last-minute hotel room during a Jays game. Don’t they normally sell out?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
looks like it can be done....seattle's a big city.
my worry is I don’t want to be fair from safeco cause I’m not renting a car.
No, Kelowna for the summer
I go to school in Edmonton though.
Worst of both worlds: +45 degree summers and -45 degree winters….
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
That would be the ideal solution
But more of a perk than a requirement for us.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Heh, ya, I figured
I remember going to watch games at BC Place and then we saw the price for parking. Parked about 6 or 7 blocks away for about 2$ instead.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Don't they have a monorail?
I’ve been there a few times but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
That's what some of the hotels mentioned
So I hope so :P
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
LOL, sounds pointless then
Maybe I’m spoiled with the LRT in Edmonton stopping at the major spots – University, Arena, Stadium
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Ya, the distance isn't as much a concern for us
Since we will be driving there (~5 hour drive for us + border crossing) and we’re all big on walking if necessary. Worse comes to worse, we take public transit (shudder :P)
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
It is when you're years from arbitration
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
LOL, Hayhurst knows that ERA gets him paid.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Not for a couple more years
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
He's a forward thinker
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Attaboy Dirk!
Started reading some of his blog writings last night – he’s got some good stuff on there.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Yay (non sarcastic variety.) Nice play by Hill
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
First 1-2-3 inning?
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Felt like it.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 27, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhg
There’s the CG… brutal
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Agreed
Guaranteed sub .500 record for inter-league. Good work Jays.
Who would have bet that the Jays would finish at least 4-2 against the World Champs and STILL not be .500 inter-league?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
This game rates up there as one of the suckiest sucks that ever sucked.
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