Far Away From Those Winter Streets / On a Cloudless Day / Your Memory Blows Away: 6/28 Game Preview and Thread, Phillies at Jays
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Phillies at Toronto Blue Jays, Jun 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
The Jays are hoping that the ugly memory of yesterday's game blows away this afternoon as they try to take the Phillies series. Not much to say about a game like yesterday's -- in one game, Mills demonstrated both why he could be a good major league one day and why he's not quite ready for the majors yet. He's back in AAA now, with Doc ready to make his start tomorrow. Brian Tallet will look to follow up on an incredible 3-days rest start his last time out, while the ancient one pitches for the Quaker City.
At least the Jays are fielding a major-league lineup today, so that's good to see (although Mac produced almost half of the Jays' total offense yesterday). Barajas continues to sit, but Jose Bautista gets the start in left while Lyle Overbay plays first base, Scott Rolen returns to the lineup, and Adam Lind takes DH duties.
Today's title comes from the same song as yesterday's, "Walt Whitman Bridge" by Marah. It's a great song so hopefully it'll bring us more luck today than yesterday. Let's go Jays!
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won't be sorry to see the end of interleague
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
although it means lots of divisional games
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But it was all gonna come down to that anyways. So it will be nice to see what we do in make or break time.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
by JohnnyG on Jun 28, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
especially since we’re getting Doc back
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that could have gone better though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Mills was bad and all yesterday
but we were playing with basically half of a major-league lineup, but that offensive showing yesterday was absymal anyway
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah it was...and Mills did show a lot of good with the bad
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Howard is a strikeout candidate
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and now a strikeout casualty
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a close pitch
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that overhead view.
I wonder if they could go to a straight behind the pitcher view at skydome
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd have to put the camera at the back of the blacked-out block of seats
instead of at the front, but I think it could be done.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayberry Jr
hits it to the track, but Rios hauls it in
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I only have
about another hour before the confederations cup final with Brazil, so hopefully we can score some runs early
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have about that long till I have to take my boy to a soccor tourament
playing 8 on 9 soccer for this, just to cause coach dad to think more
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
possible nickname for Tallet?
Stand Tall Tallet:
-alliteration
-he is 6’7
-reference to his moustache’s resemblance to Burton Cummings’ stache (stand tall was one of burton’s hits)
by norm depalma on Jun 28, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacked!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wooo!
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
by JohnnyG on Jun 28, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there is nothing cold about his play
by norm depalma on Jun 28, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as if it's not bad enough that they're calling attention
to the fact that he comes out to Coldplay
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if all the people wearing the hats are hot-headed
as Tenace seems to think that we are genetically predisposed that way
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I need the backstory to that
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
he made some quote about Wells’ calmness during his slump – said something like he could never stay so calm because of his Italian heritage
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm paraphrasing
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something us non-Italians couldn't say....
I wouldn’t say you are any worse than anyone else, though I don’t like the five minutes of rolling around on the ground if someone comes close in a soccer game.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
that is incredibly annoying. Though Italian national team football is hardly the prettiest thing to watch, even without the flopping
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've long been a proponent of giving out more bookings for diving
to reduce that nonsense
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would be good, is tough with just the one ref though. Often he's too far away to see if it is a dive
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the linemen could potentially help
but yeah. Though diving is hardly confined to the Italian league
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no it sure isn't.
does put me off soccer. Figure if you can’t be men on the field I don’t want to watch
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one reason I like MLS pretty well
they don’t dive too much
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't watched that at all
I guess that’s my other problem, there are so many leagues and players, I can’t keep them straight. So I watch premier league and juventus
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so to continue the soccer conversation...
if you were going to coach 10 year old in a 8 vs 8 game when they played full field all season would you go 2-2-3?
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for 8 on 8
I personally like 2-3-2 if you have good defenders. There’s a lot of space in the middle of the field and I feel like having the extra midfielder helps control it. I would have the central midfielder play from a defensive position and the wings push up the field
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but as a centre half myself
I am likely biased, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might work..
don’t have a very talented team, we got all first year at the level players.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the more reason
you probably use a basic strategy of clearing it to the sides and having the wings push it up the field, right? So you can keep the same strategy
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the plan...every thing to the side
put my fastest players on the mid-outsides. My son was mad at me when I put him there but I explained what I wanted, he took to it.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just going to let the boys have fun.
have a little guy that wanted to play keeper all season, but isn’t coordinated….I’m going to let him play today
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to support one local team
and DC United fit the bill nicely. We can easily take the subway there, the matches are a blast to go to and my little girl loves all the singing and drumming and stuff
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh at least they get to go to the world cup
unlike my English team
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a disaster
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so do you think US has chance today vs. Brazil?
by norm depalma on Jun 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they torched us pretty badly already this tournament
but you never know. No one thought we had a chance against Spain either — they were ranked #1 and hadn’t lost an international match since 2006
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
walks Coste
on 4 straight
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
popout to Wells, lineout to Rolen
and the walk is stranded
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
unexpected show of power
from Bautista
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I take back every bad thing I said about Bautista
but I reserve the right to return them
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are there three center field cameras?
Do they show the center field view in the stadium?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta love the Lyle walk
against the lefty to put the baserunner on for the Bautista home run
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tallet is missing his spots here
hope he finds them soon
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So concerned with the runner stealing
he gave him second for free
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this inning
isn’t going well so far
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how did Dustin Pedroia win MVP
and not Chase Utley?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols plays in the NL
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two of Utley's teammates have won though
and he is better than both of them
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utley didn't make it to first? Why not?
by ian1432 on Jun 28, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a runner on first
the runner is out on a dropped strike three. Otherwise you would intentionally drop it and get an easy double play.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting that it applies even if it obviously wasn't intentional
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't run if there's someone on first
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 run scores on the groundout
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his pitches are not staying down
these last two batters
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hill is a beast
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty daring to run on Werth
he’s a very good fielder
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love the aggressiveness on the bases for Rolen
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after the compliment, a complaint
will vw ever NOT swing at the pitch right after a HR
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s a good strategy to sit on the fastball after a HR
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in the first it was a close play
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lind draws the walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he didn't make the last out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on Lyle
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another case for overbay to bat ahead of rios
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you seen Overbay's
numbers against lefties? no way
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or not
Overbay looked just as bad there.
Against RHP there’s no question he should, though
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
I wish he was batting 2, 3, or 4 against righties. But against lefties, the only reason I even want him to play is that Millar stinks too and at least Lyle can draw a walk and play good defense
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how much for an hour with her tho? whoops that didn't come out right.....
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really wish they would stop talking about how much Halladay does for charity
it will make us forget how big of a jerk he is
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/sarcasm
if that wasn’t abundantly obvious
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing
that he would even donate the lessons, seeing how selfish he is with his time
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's so selfish
he decided to only extend his donation to the person with the second-highest bid on the list, freezing out the people who made the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest bids
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
his selfishness is matched only by Rolen’s apathy and the “embarassment” that Rios is to the city of Toronto
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bases drunk with no out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thought they had a shot at two, I imagine
but it just wasn’t hit hard enough
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looked like the runner was pretty close to third by the time Scott fielded the ball
and he was pretty off balance. Would have been tough to beat the runner there and wouldn’t have been able to turn two
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sac fly brings the phillies within 1
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in days of yore, one of our pitchers would have plunked werth by now
same with nick johnson and all the the other guys who have 1800 OPS against us
by norm depalma on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
two-run triple for Utley
man, he smacked that one
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tallet blew up good today
did someone predict that based on his hot-cold trend?
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-1 grounder
to finally end the inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandy, What a Fine Girl
I have to say I am as big a fan of Brandy as Doc. She seems like a very nice lady, does a lot of work for the community and carries herself very well on TV. Very well done, IMHO.
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that'll quash our momentum
moyer’s gonna be 123 in this one
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
let’s just give up now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no just for the next two innings
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh ok
good to know
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard to have momentum on defense in baseball
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
since the defenders are standing still at the start of the play, they have no velocity, so mass x velocity always = 0
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh i was referring to psychological momentum!!
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but if the Phillies gained significant momentum in the game based on last inning
shouldn’t they be hitting well this inning?
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i look at it as a battle of momentum
if tallet can hold their momentum generated from their previous inning, then we gain a bit of positive momentum.
if they get a runner to third and don’t score, we gain more positive momentum
if the phillies fail to score again for the next little while, it starts to swing back to us
but
if we threaten against moyer but don’t score – momentum goes back to them
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we should try to give them more baserunners
so we can get the momentum back by stranding them?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you increase the odds of them scoring too
so i wouldn’t do that on purpose!
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it sounds like what you call momentum
I would call “playing well”
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of those self fufilling things....
team does well they have momentum, team doesn’t they don’t. me I think if we score 6 here I don’t care about who has momentum.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this stuff is life and death to us because we are fans
but do we really think that these professional athletes are so psychologically impacted by their team giving up or not giving a run the previous inning that it affects their play? I just don’t see it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I figure if psychology was that important to the players
they’d all have degrees in it. Being strong and having good hand eye coordination seems to be what’s important. Losing isn’t a mental failing of some sort.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is interesting
i had no idea that others did not think this way – watching games and keeping the pulse of momentum is the only way i know that works for me.
i can’t imagine that players don’t look at the score – to me it even shows in their body language at the plate.
i must be crazy
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to me – so much of the game is mental – that is what makes it interesting
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh heck, baseball players know nothing about pyscholgy
when they show me Freud’s career numbers then I’ll worry about it
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why you don't walk the backup catcher
moonlighting as a DH. Twice, in fact
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cito please don't send him out again
although i know you will
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else hate when they show how a guy hits when you win and when you lose?
Always figure that’s pretty normal, when guys hit well the team wins, what does it prove?
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya, it stands to reason that when your good players play well, you usually win
if they dont, you usually lose
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely nothing
it is such a pointless stat, and they try to use it to show one player’s importance to the team but I expect the numbers are similar for most players
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's a question I don't know how to answer:
5. Being Canada’s only team, are there a lot more Blue Jays fans nowadays, or did all the Expos fans become apathetic towards the game?
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you could make the argument
that Expos fans were pretty apathetic even when they had a team, so their allegiance won’t really make much impact on the overall numbers of baseball fans in Canada
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the most important factor
is whether the Jays are playing well and the overall popularity of baseball relative to other NA sports rather than whether a few thousand fans in Montreal are cheering for the Jays or other teams
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think probably the latter
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
though I have noticed the Jays have been trying the past few years to make themselves "Canada's Team"
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Expos lost their fans at the strike
same as us, and I don’t think the Raptors coming into existence right after baseball came back helped.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the strike
is a convenient argument, but not really one borne out by evidence. Certainly after the strike, the Expos were abysmal in the attendance department, but from 1988-1993, they finished no higher than 10/12 in the NL in attendance. They were doing pretty badly even before the strike, so they didn’t have much of a fan base to weather the post-strike storm like other teams could
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the strike year they were up in first when the owners locked the doors...
if they had won it would have been good for the team
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you’re right Sucka – I think it’s more that they lost out on a season that could have really helped the team
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Montreal is a fickle sports town
Canada’s two strongest sports cities are (1) Toronto – based largely on size and (2) Edmonton – based on ardency of fans
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto fans
are only ardent about the Leafs. The Raptors have a few die hards, probably a bit more so than the Jays, but teams’ popularity swings wildly based on success.
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, I see what you mean
never mind, forget what I just said.
However, I still don’t consider Toronto a great sports town. People really only care about the Leafs, and pretend to care about other teams when they are doing well
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's funny how a city
can be so die-hard about one team and so apathetic about another team
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's Canada
where nightly Sportscentre broadcasts still feature 10 minutes of hockey news in June before getting to highlights of that night’s Jays game
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC isn't so different
loves that NFL team with a nasty name, doesn’t so much care about the others unless they are in the playoffs
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i find myself following the Sens now more than the Leafs … at least they have a chance at the cup
but Jays gave me the best sports fan experience ever in the years leading into and then 92 and 93 …. so I am pretty much most loyal to them than any other sports franchise
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be nice
if other Toronto fans felt the same way, instead of abandoning the team from 95 through the early 00’s and then claiming that they have always been fans when the team starts doing well again.
And the Sens hardly have a chance at the Cup now, they were terrible last year and Heatley is as good as gone
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do not think Heatley is going anywhere
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
i remember I was at the tables in Vegas once with a guy from St. Louis (he was wearing a cards cap). We were talking about Eckstein and Rolen. He was chastising me about T.O.’s relatively weak fan support versus St. Louis Cards.
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
most cities' baseball fans can't hold a candle to St. Louis fans
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well edmonton there is a history of winning....
calgary does well when the teams are good too
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but they support teams even when they are struggling and they even attend track and field etc … My opinion on Edmonton is throw any ball onto a field and you will attract a large crowd. LOL LOL
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calgary has won a Stanley Cup virtually as recently as the Oilers did
89 v 90 for the last EDM cup. And IIRC the Flames made the Cup finals the year before the lockout while the Oilers made it the year after. Not much difference in the recent-ness of their success
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flames sell out every night.
oilers don’t anymore
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so wouldn't that
buttress the argument that Calgary fans are better than Edmonton fans?
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as the NHL is concerned .. yes
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what else is there to go on?
I don’t know how the Eskies v Stamps attendance goes, but I imagine its fairly similar.
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the latest data i can find
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/107692
will keep looking
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go
Esks attendance much higher than Stamps
http://www.geocities.com/cfl_historical/CFL-Attendance.htm
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would point out
The stadium sizes. Since Commonwealth holds 25, 000 more fans than McMahon, it would skew the numbers. I mean, if McMahon sells out every game, they still can only average just over 35.5k. Commonwealth has averaged more than that for the last 8 years, but that still leaves a very empty stadium…
Make of it what you will I guess.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
size does not matter
lol
stamps could still boost capacity by 20-25% to reach capacity
no matter how you slice it … the Esks are the strongest CFL franchise (as measured in attendance) by a healthy margin
i always wondered why their AAA team left (they did have one yes?) since I figured Edmonton was such a sports town
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both edmonton and calgary had AAA team but poor attendance and having games cancelled because of weather too much cost them both.
Stamps were pretty much sold out most of last season. This season all the season tickets are sold.
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big O
i remember seeing a game at the big O. I dropped my keys on the concrete floor beneath my seat. It made an echo. I remember thinking “echo? hmmm, that is not a good sign” LOL
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a "Hall-of-Fame" afternoon
is about as big a baseball oxymoron as you’re going to find
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
goal US!!!!!
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dempsey rocks
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok this is our inning boys
tallet please hold’em one last time
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh well I gotta run, enjoy the rest of the game.
And score some eh?
by Tom Dakers on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i m getting worried about Jays here
their offense is slowing down a bit
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still 4 more innings to go
and the Phillies bullpen isn’t great, though the Jays have been stymied by bad pens before
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really starting to dislike this Werth guy
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ricciardi I think
though he’d be gone by now anyway, unless we had signed him to a long term deal
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Werth was not looking so great when Jays dumped him
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he wasn't
though he wasn’t playing much either, and he was a former first-round pick. It took a bunch of injuries for Werth to get his shot, and good for him for taking advantage of it
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Werth was quite green when th Jays dumped him
but I am happy with getting Frasor
by PFHLai on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we did get Jason Frasor for him
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa!
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
nice catch from Vernon on a deep fly from Howard
gets the Jays out of the inning. Tallet won’t be back for the 7th
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with the pitch count at 110
the bullpen had better take over.
Who’s warming up?
by PFHLai on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm used to seeing that one deflect off Wells' glove
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
normally I think something like
well, it took a pretty good play just to get his glove on it
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Lando makes it 2-nil US!
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chan Ho Park in
time for Lyle to start hitting like the can
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a smart move by the Philly manager
to take moyer out
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, 6 pitch inning
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good inning from League
with a bit of help from Stairs/Bautista
Runs now, please
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great play by Utley there
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we need some freakn runs
this has been so frustrating to watch…..this game should be ours
by Aquamelli on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice inning for Accardo too
let’s tie this thing up!
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
strikes out Utley though
to end the inning
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
start us off, Vernon
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hit it hard
but right at Utley
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen single up the middle
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eww
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn it Rios
swing on that first pitch already
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on Alexis
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
up to Lyle now
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a little surprised they are leaving Madson in
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Russ Adams pinch hitting for Bautista
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have accepted a based loaded walk from Bautista
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming they threw four balls to him
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i m not sure the Jays have walk off batting coming off
assuming bp can hold the Phillies scoreless
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lidge has been awful this year
Assuming they even go to him
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man looks like we're heading to 4th place
this will be a disappointing loss if the current situation doesn’t improve
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
playing just well enough to lose again
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game is not over yet
don’t give up too early
by PFHLai on Jun 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez pulls the old Fasano
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Mac pinch running
and presumably catching if it goes to extras
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by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Bunt single from Chavez! Amazing play!
by SuckaMD on Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean Johnny Mac is now catching?
by ian1432 on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it comes to that, yes
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LI 5.4
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leverage Index
How important the plate appearance is relative to average
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vespa walks!
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LI up to 6.04 after the walk
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets go Hilly!
smack another homer. or at least a double
by jlahey on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
does hill sacrifice or play to win
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bull crap
that was no strike
anybody see it on gaemday?
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday said it was right at the bottom of the zone
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets earn some money v-dub
and win us the game
by jlahey on Jun 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd settle for a tie to start with
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch... that pickoff really sucks
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow.... I can't watch right now...
But, did J-Mac just get picked off 2nd?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He broke for 3rd on Lidge's first move, but Lidge turned back rather than going home
by ian1432 on Jun 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhg.... Damnit
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a new one
is there a bigger baserunning don’t?
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe he just had two bad games
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely he had 8 good games in between being terrible the rest of the season.
His good games were still not as good as Lind & Rolen’s entire season.
by ian1432 on Jun 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's about to be overtaken by big papi
and may never catch up again
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a crap way to lose
had great chances in the 8th and 9th innings
by Aquamelli on Jun 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vernon and rios back to the struggle
vernon and rios back to
by purplebutz on Jun 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a bit of a tough ending there
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
... We play Tampa for 3 this week.
I think we should do fine.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we usually suck against tampa
why do you think we’ll do fine?
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This season has been filled with unexpected turns and results. For example – taking 4 of 6 versus the World Champs and losing 2 of 3 from the worst team in the last 10 years.
I think that with Halladay going tomorrow we have a reasonable shot to split the other two and take a series win.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good to know
saves us the trouble of watching the rest of the season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells
Another great game Vernon. 0-5. It was there for the win and you blew it again.
by frodisman on Jun 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
totally
he was the only player not to hit with runners on today. Also, it was his fault Mac was picked off second as the tying run in the 9th
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by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he gave up 4 runs in the 4th
Just bad decision-making all around by our CF.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, Wells was the only player on the team holding a bat.
He’s got skills.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by wroth91 on Jun 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
message to management
don’t put all of your salary into one basket for more than one season
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are u directing that to the Senators? LOL
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
today we were beaten by a hit that outhit and outpitched us
and was hungrier for the win
(i would say mentally tough but many don’t believe in that)
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think hungrier for the win is just as bad
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sloppy mistakes cost
passed ball cost a run
base running error cost a bottom of the ninth out
obviously there are a variety of factors that lead to win or loss, but why allow errors to torpedo your game … need to tighten up, the AL East is competitive
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have no problem with 4th place
its where we were expected to be
it must be more relaxing
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AL East is still very much up for grabs
it will be a horse race to the end IMHO
by aagoodfella on Jun 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"relaxing"?
huh?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 28, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kudos to the Phil manager for pulling moyer when he did
it worked out well
by epoxypatch on Jun 28, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox lost
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by Torgen on Jun 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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