Bits On a Tuesday Afternoon
by Tom Dakers on Jun 30, 2009 2:37 PM EDT
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I was going to talk on a couple of things but I noticed other folks had beat me to them so figured we'd have a small link fest this afternoon.
I agree with everything Tao of Stieb says in this little post about Alex Rios and John McDonald's base running troubles, including:
So...The Gazelle doesn't care if the Jays win, and Johnny Mac cares too much. Glad that we cleared that up.
The Drunks have a good take on this silly piece by Jeff Blair. They reaction is here.
While I would continue to question the merits of giving up on Rios, as he's simply not as bad as everyone makes him out to be, I'm certain that there wouldn't be a single tear shed for the departure of Wells from Toronto, just as certain as I am that there wouldn't be a team willing to take him and the $12.5 million, $23 million, $21 million, $21 million and $21 million due to him over the next five years. This isn't a new thing. This has been the fact since almost right after the contract was signed. Jon Paul Morosi at Fox Sports is yet another one that is drooling over Doc. SI.com has an interest article on the age players start to decline by Joe Posnanski and Bill James. Apparently it is 33, he says, suddenly feeling very old. Bucs Dugout has more on the Eric Hinske trade to the Yankees here. And in case you are interested, DRayBay had a few questions about the Blue Jays for me. Have a good afternoon and see you in the thread tonight.
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Dear Mr. Blair
Who is trading for Vernon Wells? He’s going nowhere. Last year when he was having a decent year, he was put on waivers and noone wanted him, why would someone trade prospects or “A bag of balls” for him? The contract stinks, lets work with Vernon to turn the ship around.
Signed,
Captain obvious.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Mets or Yankees might take on the contract in a year or two
except that the Mets have Beltran. Wells would be a good fit on the Red Sox, but they’d never be willing to pay what he is owed.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 30, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for whatever reason the contract is so back-loaded
In a year or 2 is when he really makes the big money. I think this year he is only making $6MM. To me thats what makes it a tough contract to unload on someone.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
though the Jays could “unload” it in the deal – it would cost some money but they could maybe get a useful player back
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 30, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But again to my original post
Who would trade for him when they wouldn’t even pick him up on waivers for free? Then again, its entirely possible I don’t understand the waiver process.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they'd be getting a discount
whereas waivers would require them to pay the whole salary. Depending on how much of a discount, we might (though might not) get a player back. Though I’m not sure anyone would want to take on that salary even if we did “unload” the contract. Certainly not the way he’s playing now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW Hugo
Thanks for having my back over at MLB Daily dish…I don’t speak “statese” so its nice to have someone backup my argument with legit stats.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a great fanpost
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Jun 30, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, was he ever on outright waivers?
If he was on revocable trade waivers it means nothing—Halladay was probably put on waivers too. Teams put lots of guys on the waiver wire to camouflage the guys they actually want to trade, and just pull back the guys they never meant to part with.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 30, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know enough about waivers to answer this
But I remember last August Vernon and Johnny Mac both “Cleared waivers”
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Sportsnet.ca
With the MLB trade deadline in the rearview mirror, teams are now looking at the trade waiver wire to stock their roster for an October run. And some of the names being dangled may surprise you.
The Toronto Star is reporting that the Jays Jays asked trade waivers on both Vernon Wells and John McDonald on Tuesday, and it’s unsure either would clear.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's from early August
then they’re revocable trade waivers.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
by Torgen on Jun 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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