Roy Halladay: The Story Changes Every Day
by Tom Dakers on Jul 24, 2009 1:22 PM EDT
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PrintYesterday we were told Doc wouldn't resign with the Jays as a free agent and that he had given the team a list of teams he would accept a trade to, today, not so much. Today in the Globe and Mail, Robert MacLeod and Jeff Blair have a different story. Last night, after being told that JP said Halladay wouldn't resign with the Jays Doc wasn't happy (after the jump):
"I don’t want to address it," Halladay said. "I don’t even know what he [Ricciardi] said. I’ll do it after I pitch."
According to Rogers Sportsnet, Halladay’s initial reaction when approached by one of their reporters was: "This is not good."
And people wonder why I say I never believe anything JP says. When JP heard that Doc might not be happy with his comments, the story changed some.
"Roy Halladay has not demanded a trade," Ricciardi said. "We know what he wants and he knows what he wants. He hasn’t given us a list of teams. We’ve run teams by him to see if he has any interest in going there – yes or no. There is no secret, hidden agenda. We’re not playing divide and conquer … and, again, my gut tells me that I just don’t see anything happening.
Now I really don't think there is anything wrong with JP lying to the media if he feels it gives him some sort of edge in dealing with other teams, I know one GM considers the mainstream media 'background noise' and doesn't have anything to do with them unless he feels he can spin a story.
Ricciardi has never clearly expressed that Halladay’s desire to test free agency was behind the club’s decision to consider trade proposals. Further confusing the Jays’ motives, Blue Jays interim chief executive officer Paul Beeston suggested last week in an interview on a Toronto radio station that he intended to discuss a contract extension with the pitcher this past weekend.
So I still don't know that Doc wouldn't resign with the team if, you know, asked. I would like them to talk about it. I really don't understand why there wouldn't be more communication between the GM and the team's best player. But then I don't know that there hasn't been and that we just don't know. If JP told us he had a long sit down with Doc I wouldn't believe you. For that matter if he told me the sky was blue I'd start questioning my eyes.
Again I don't really care if he is honest with the media or not. I don't see that telling reporters the truth is anywhere in the job description of a Major League GM. But remember this the next time JP says something and I say I don't believe it.
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I trust JP
Why do I say that? He is fighting for his next paycheck. How he handles this situation will dictate if he’s going to be employed by the Jays next year. If he’s fired, I don’t see him getting another GM gig as his track record over the past 7 years hasn’t been dazzling. I truly believe he’ll do the best for the Jays, if for no other reason, its in his best interest.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jul 24, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, I'm not saying I don't like him as a GM
I’m saying that he lies to the media. I really don’t think that’s a bad thing for a GM to do. He doesn’t owe the media anything. His job is to do the best he can for the team, nothing in the job description that says he has to be honest with reporters.
I don't trust you Tom!
Yah thats right…. I said it.
Nyah
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Whatever JP is doing I hoped he discussed it with Halladay before he said anything. If Halladay was considering resigning I wouldn’t want JP to mess that up with some ill-timed comments.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jul 24, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t know what game JP is playing. He has confused the media, the other teams (which is good), the fans and Doc. He knows if he messes this up, he is gone. So, I think the Jays will got the whole farm or Halladay stays.
Halladay stays forever or until Winter meetings?
I hope they figure out a way to get rid of a portion of that Wells salary. If we have that guy for five more years as Tom suggests I fear the worst.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jul 24, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
A double yesterday, a home run the day before, I think Wells is coming back. He is not going to earn that contract or give away money given to him with the blessing of the Jays fans, but I don’t think he will stink up the place, the way he did in the first half.
Opposite field barely fair double
From a guy who doesn’t try to use the whole field makes me think he got lucky, not that he’s coming out of it. It’s been a month since Wells had an RBI that wasn’t himself.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
He has had a terrific July
hitting ..327/.351/.564 (only 3 RBI though) but I’ve given up on the idea of saying that he is coming out of it because every time I do he goes a week without a hit..
6 of his 18 hits this month were infield singles
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
As are a lot of Crawfords hits.
'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.
Crawford always does it
It’s not part of Wells’ usual game.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
It’s the RISP stats that really bother me.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jul 24, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to drive home a runner from second
when you can’t even hit the ball to second.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
And I mean as far as second
although in Vernon’s case he’d have to bat lefty to hit it to second.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Tonight is Halladay’s 300th game in the majors ironically. I was at Skydome for his second game in which he was one out away from a no-hitter. Weird to think it’s been 10 years and 298 games since then. Seems like yesterday.
by BigTimeBlueJayFan on Jul 24, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Wasn't that game in Tiger Stadium where he was one hit away, and that guy hit a homerun?
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jul 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Right.
That was in Detroit right? Man, that was bitter sweet.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jul 24, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
One with that crazy hop over the 2nd baseman.
That sucked.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jul 24, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Steib actually had 3 no hitters broken up in the ninth
before finally getting his no-no vs. Cleveland. Two of those were broken up with 2 outs, 2 strikes in consecutive starts; one of those starts was a potential perfect game
Silly thing to say
Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see any strategic advantage in Ricciardi stating that Doc is going to test free agency. Wouldn’t projecting the possibility that they might be able to re-up Doc give the Jays leverage in trade discussions?
Even if they can't extend Doc beyond 2010
they could keep him for the year and take the draft picks.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Not saying you settle for draft picks
I don’t want to see Roy traded, but that wasn’t my point. Doc’s not going to tell the media he’s told the team he wants to explore free agency, so why would the GM? I can’t see how making that statement helps in any way. Same as the Dunn comments didn’t produce any advantage whatsoever.
Totally agree with you.
Now, I’m actually a pretty strong JP supporter overall. I like the team he has put together and he seems to evaluate talent well enough. But at the same time, I’m getting pretty tired of the things he says to the media. It’s like he’s not thinking sometimes (the Rios of GM’s?). No advantage in saying Dunn doesn’t like baseball, and no advantage in saying there’s a reason Ruiz is still down in AAA. No advantage in saying Robert Ray and Cecil weren’t ready for the bigs. And no advantage in saying Doc wants to explore free agency.
If the Jays don’t make the playoffs in 2010 (and they probably won’t), I say his contract shouldn’t be extended, and it ends there for him, because he had his chance.
well the Dunn thing
he was pissed off, I can understand that one, he just blew up at a caller on the phone in show. If Wilmer was looking out for him he could have defused it before it got that far. It would be hard to be in his spot and listen to phone calls from people that really know little about baseball. But then he should have controlled himself
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