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Que pasa Ny?...Que pasa NY? Game Thread Jays at Yankees

Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yankees, Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM EDT


So another day, another starter on the DL. This is getting beyond where it is a joke. Has every starter on the team been on the DL at some point this year? So Brett Cecil starts today. Should be an interesting game again, hopefully with a better ending than the last two.

Richard Griffin has a piece about Aaron Hill's bunt last night. Apparently he did it on his own. I'm not a big fan of that.If the manager has you bunt, that's one thing. If he doesn't, maybe there is a reason for it. Maybe he doesn't want to take the bat out of Adam Lind's hands.

"(Manager Cito Gaston) comes to me every day and says, `Look, swing it. We don't want you to do that.' Obviously in certain situations ... I look back on the (Phillies game) and I should have done it myself. Those are situations – I know they're not going to come up very often – in a big game like that to move the runner.

It guess a little mutiny is a good thing but I really think players should leave managing to the manager.



 

We get treated to David Dellucci and Raul Chavez at the bottom of the order again. 

The title's from John Lennon's song New York City, not one of his better efforts but they can't all be Imagine. 

Join us in the thread. 

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Looking forward...

to more fly balls home runs.

God damn Yankees.

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by eyebleaf on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Block voting probably denies Hill a deserved all-star appearance.

Pedroia got in.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Red Sox Nation and such.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it make more sense as "bloc"?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so anyone think that it is something cito is doing that is causing all the injuries?

his rep last time round was someone that overworked pitchers but I think he’s been fine with them this time

by Tom Dakers on Jul 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i do not think Richmond, Janssen, Litsch were due to overuse

i think the Halladay tweak was due to overuse

i do think that ball players generally, need to work on their physical fitness more

there is a video on the Jays site that shows Lind and (Accardo, I think) in the weight room … they are talking about the best giveaways … anyhow .. they do not look that super fit to me … i see plenty of folks at the gym, who are not pro athletes, that look more developed

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice tag Chavez

tagging with the glove while holding the ball in his other hand.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

This was getting too painfull

thank goodness its over.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

And a good morning to you too sir.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad cold, kids have a friend over

had to cook breakfast, and the Jays are on a skid…overall I was hoping this game would improve my mood…

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that was a stellar move...

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

well, the Jays have not been tearing it up at the plate lately, so they probably need to create runs anyway possible … sometimes you get caught

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's the second inning

and you’ve got Rios up… and… and… yergh. Just frustrating.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the pitcher even started his wind up

when wells took off…

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Pedroia was the 2nd base all-star

is he 2nd tier or something

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

There’s 33 players on each team.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could not find

the complete list on MLB.com? Is the whole roster named?

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they can't put the whole list up until after TBS's selection show finishes.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, how broken is the all-star selection system

where only one of Lind, Peña, and Kinsler is going to make it?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe the bases are loaded again

This is going to be a long day

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

have you heard the expression?

“good experience” is what people rationalize when they do not get what they really want?

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like winning the game would be a better experience

than getting knocked around for 2 innings.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Good Experience" is kinda like

says suck it up cupcake

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

PLEASE CITO

Get someone warming up and get Cecil the heck out of there. For the lord of all things.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

52 pitches

25 balls… control all over the place. This is madness.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would really love to have

a mic on the cater during these mound meetings

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

that should be catcher

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he has to cover his mouth so the other team can't read his lips

I think broadcasting his words would be right out.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time delay

almost anything they are talking about is outdated after 2 minutes anyway

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

they could show it later.....

I always wonder about that glove over the month. Do a lot of MLB team employ lip readers?

by Tom Dakers on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any point risking it?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet they would be using directional mic's

lip reading is low tech,

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the other manager

doesn’t have a pretty darn good idea what the conversation is about anyway, he shouldn’t be on the bench. Its not like pulling a sneek play in football, the funny stuff is hand signals anyway.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would like to have a mic on Scutaro

he is always chirping it up out there with the infielders when he is running or the baserunners when he is at short stop

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Chavez might not be fast...

but he sure as hell gives it his all. ‘cept that one time he turned around at first base. but i’ll ignore that

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i am glad he held on to the bag, i thought his momentum was going to pull him right off

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Bomb!

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that was stadium aided

but live by the sword, die by the sword.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, prayer does work !!!!

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Carm is sacrificing something on the BBQ

I’ll ask her for help

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carm likes hockey puck well done

It drives me nuts. Of course our current BBQ makes it pretty hard to cook anything properly.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

no helping some people....

my mother in law is like that…we got nice steak…cooked them great. had to put her’s back on….we were all finished before her’s was burnt enough. then she puts ketchup on it.

by Tom Dakers on Jul 5, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

its sad.

my son likes his medium, with BBQ sauce and then he has a whole bottle of ketchup on the side

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

An intervention may be necessary

I at least got the kids liking medium to medium-rare. It used to drive Carm nuts.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a little much.

I’m a medium guy, but I can handle a little more done. Charcoal though? No thanks.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

And the Yankees commentators were just talking about those idiot Jays fans who dressed up like umpires and made idiots of themselves. LOL

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone know basketball here?

how does the pickup up Turkoglu impact the Raptors’ competitiveness?

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

little more competitive i suppose

but overall still not good enough to do very well

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now would be a good time for Dellucci to get a hit

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

there we go

tied up via Chavez double

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

in the yankees office

when they decide whether or not to play A-rod do they say:

“Should we play A-rod”

“No, let’s hold him for Ransom”

LOL

boooooooooooo - ssssssssssssssssssssssssss

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Way to go Scooter!!!

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Awsome hit HILL!!

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Dear God.

I don’t trust a four run lead with him, not the way he’s been pitching so far.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his pitch count is likely to get him pulled

no matter how well he pitches from here on out

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wooo!

what a great time to get back into DC and turn on the TV

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

well

I deserve it, since I’ve watched the last two games in NYC pubs

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jul 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good timing

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

RBI double please

than we can leave Cecil in with more comfort

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

unfortunately, have to run again

must restock the kitchen for the week ahead. let’s go Jays!

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jul 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

must be a single man

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have take out in DC???

2 XL Pizzas can be kept for up to a week

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhh. Carm might be reading...

Actually, when its just me and the kids we usually cook most nights. Of course every dinner is cooked on the BBQ.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I typically make things that Carm would hate

but the kids and I love.
Meals tend to be a bit protein heavy, but tasty.
Thank God for Costco, everything is twice as large as any human needs…and just the right size for growing kids

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent at bat

this game could be a real confidence builder for the Jays

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Joba

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by eyebleaf on Jul 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably the first reliever

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although I think there's official scorer's judgment.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx

Seems funny that the middle reliever who maybe pitches the 5th and 6th gets the win, even if Cecil leaves the game after 4 with the win.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate this stupid stadium

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jul 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh @#!!%^&*^&%$#

This is not good.

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

heh, I have to laugh at that otherwise I would cry

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Jul 5, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

After four innings

We have 8 runs and 10 hits.

And we are leading by just one run.

What a nutty game.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Dellucci, get a hit.

You remember how to hit, don’t you? You just put your lips together and blow.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Did we trade for him

or just picked up after being released by his previous team?

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The latter

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that is a reason we should have left him alone

getting something for free is not always worth anything

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i noticed

tthat Yanks stadium stole the London bells sound from (they play when they hit a tater) from the Ottawa Senators (not that the Sens have that copyrighted)

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

As a closer Ryan didn't get called for balks for not stopping because he hardly ever threw over

As a middle reliever he’s throwing over… are they going to start calling it?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

can we maybe leave Ryan in New York?

i really don’t wanna see him at all the rest of the year

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Like tomorrow...

Cito seems to have too much faith in some people

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ looks like he doesn't have confidence in himself

its hard for the manager to have some when you don’t project an aura

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ was ok one inning today

but that is all he is good for … so really it was a mistake leaving him in longer

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he was behind in the count when that happened.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ stats from Bastian

B.J. Ryan’s last 6 outings for the Jays have included 8 walks, 3 runs and 2 homers over 4.1 IP.

hes really earning that money

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

hey,

were those yanks fan yelling “Blue Jays suck”

by aagoodfella on Jul 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the Yankee fans screaming that sucks?

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They're yelling "Hip hip Jorge"

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

so almost at 3 hours and...

bottom of the 5th. losing 10-8…. this is horrible in so many ways

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If I'm a Yankees fan

I’m pissed at Posada. There is no need for him to try for home there. A rookie pitcher, a team that is struggling, a wacky game of errors and tons of scoring… why rush home?

At any rate, the top of our order is up. Time to capitalize.

by Temujin on Jul 5, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

"How many times have we said this?"

You’re the ones with the stats guy.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

After the inning he just had

I don’t want another from him.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We only have to worry about the 9th if we take the lead

so we’d better keep it close.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well last chance coming up

and if i had to pick 3 guys to hit, it’d be the 3 coming up so. maybe. crazy day, maybe we’ll pull it out

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Especially if they aren't going to Rivera

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

and its over

almost 4 hours. and a loss. lets switch it up tomorrow, ~2 hours and a win.

by jlahey on Jul 5, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Well it was fun guys

I have to get on with my day. Have a great rest of the day.
Cheers

"Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." ~ Toby Harrah

by No Bunting on Jul 5, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it have to be a song lyric?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuz I came up with one

“I can’t seem to find my way out of your hunting ground”
From “I Can’t See New York” by Tori Amos off the album Scarlet’s Walk.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Jul 5, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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