Travis Snider hit a homer in his first game back. Oh yeah we lost.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 19, 2009 1:58 AM EDT in Game Recaps Comment 15 comments

Travis Snider had a great game in his first game back. 2 for 3 with a walk and homer, 2 runs and an RBI. Cito I know you think you are protecting the guy but let's move him out of 9th in the order. Soon. Tomorrow for example. He looked great at the plate. His out was a strikeout.

Beyond that? Who cares. Well, if you want to know, Randy Ruiz hit his 3rd homer and Rod Barajas had one as well. Everyone in the line up had at least one hit and our little power slump is over since we hit 3 homer and 4 doubles. 2 for Aaron Hill and 1 each for Vernon Wells and Adam Lind.

Pitching and defense let us down tonight. Ricky Romero only lasted 3.2 innings, giving up 8 hits, 6 runs, 5 earned, walked 3 and struck out 2. Camp pitched a good 1.2 innings, giving up a homer but that's all. Jesse Carlson got the 2 outs asked of him. Casey Janssen pitched a perfect 7th striking out 2. But coming back out in the 8th he gave up a single, a walk and made an error on an Alex Gonzalez bunt attempt (our 2nd missplayed bunt of the game, guys, when they give you an out, that it). Brian Tallet came in and allowed the two runners Janssen left on score and we were down by 3 runs. Jason Frasor a scoreless 9th.

We did make an attempted come back with a 2 out rally in the 8th that scored 2 runs to bring it back to a 1 run game. We did get the tying run to second in the 9th off a Jonathan Papelbon.

Just to show all is not sunny having Snider back. He did make a bad error in the 4th, missing a very catchable ball in right. I'm not sure how much right field he's played in the minors. But it was great to see the team score some runs and with his and Randy Ruiz' power the last month and a half of the season should be great fun.

Jays of the Day are Snider (.153), Hill (.131) and Barajas (.106). Suckage Jays Romero (-.379), Janssen (-.285), Wells (-.157) and Lind (-.142).

Tomorrow Roy Halladay (13-5, 2.65) goes against Clay Buchholtz (1-3, 4.45) It should be interested as Buchholtz was rumored to be the main piece of a possible Halladay trade to the Sox. And Travis Snider will be playing again.

The game thread was great fun again tonight. Hugo asked an interesting question that I couldn't come up with an answer to: Has JP released or given a guy away in a trade who has hit it big somewhere else? Now we aren't talking about guys that left as free agents or ones traded in normal trades that we expected each team to gain something. Generally any GM that has worked for a few years has that guy that they got rid of thinking he had no value and he turns into something. Anyway I couldn't come up with anyone off the top of my head.Anyone got someone? The closest I could think of was Brandon Lyon and he wasn't terrific. No it doesn't mean that he's a great GM if there isn't, just kind of an interesting question.

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The only player that comes to mind is Jason Worth. JP traded him in 2004 for Fraser. Worth kills the Jays and has had a good run with Philadelphia. Having said that Worth was not mashing with the Jays and Fraser has turned into a good arm – so I can’t really criticize the deal.

by spratt on Aug 19, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions

But trades weren’t the question.

The question was that JP released (ala Thomas, Ryan potentially Rios)

And you hit the nail on the head that Frasor has actually been pretty decent for us

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by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions

And welcome!
So many new faces!

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'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Jayson Werth

Werth was one of the situations where we had a potentially decent player that really didn’t have a spot. When we traded him, we had Wells, Stewart and Hinske in the outfield, and Rios was the up and coming player. Werth didn’t hit particularly great, was not projected to have a lot of power, and was a mediorce defender. We needed quality arms in the bullpen, and he was the most expendable.

I occasionally think that we worry a little too much about what the players ends up being that we lose perspective in what the player was at the time, and the circumstances of the team then. It’s like the old conversation about Jeff Kent for David Cone. Kent turned into one of the best all around players of the next fifteen years, but Cone locked up our World Series win. How do you judge that as a good or bad deal?

by dexfarkin on Aug 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Very well explained

And welcome to the site!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah that one wasn't quite the give away

we got value back. Looking for more we traded someone for nothing and they turned into a player.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 19, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, the Jays seem to have largely been on the other end of that scenario, like with Accardo for Hillibrand.

by dexfarkin on Aug 19, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks. I’ve been around for years, but just never got around to registering before now.

by dexfarkin on Aug 19, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for joining in.

more folks, more fun around here.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 19, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Was Werth ever good for the Dodgers?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Aug 19, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't think so,

It wasn’t until he hit the Phils.

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'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually got a little angry watching Ruiz and Snider having big games yesterday

Both stuck in the minors all year while we had Dellucci having Oh-fers every day and Millar hitting cleanup.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Aug 19, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions

Actually I was just happy to see them and it seems that Snider slimmed down too. After he hit that grand slam it showed him in the tunnel talking with Chavez and he had the biggest grin. It was great.

It sucks we missed out most of the year, but Snider was slumping bad and I think needed a bit of a shot in the arm (he had never really struggled going through the minors and as such never had to deal with being sat down or skipped over). From what they said on the broadcast he sulked about it at first too, and then with the injury it made things worse, But it seems to have put it behind him and started working hard again.

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'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Hitting 9th

Do you guys think this helps or hurts him? I know they are trying to protect him, but I feel that having him hit 9th it might actually put more pressure on the kid just because he might feel that he has to do more with each at bat because he will be getting fewer ABs.

I don’t know… it probably doesn’t make a difference either way.

by T.Haynes on Aug 19, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

Hmmm Hard to say.

I can see both sides of the argument… personally I have no problem keeping him down there for a few more games. But if he keeps hitting you have to move him up to the 5th or 6th spot.

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'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 19, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions