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When the Mets released Bonilla in January of 2000, instead of picking up the $5.9 million owed to him for that year, they agreed to pay him nearly $1.2 million over the course of 25 years. That’s almost $30 million.

Granted given the power of interest, if they had set aside that amount way back when it all comes out in the wash, but still.

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Wow is that stupid.....

what did he have on the team to get that?

by Tom Dakers on Aug 21, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

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Had it actually worked as planned, it would have been a great move by the Mets. That said, any investment fund manager who would guarantee a 12% annual return should have been viewed with a lot of suspicion:

It is actually correct, and a horrible deal…for Bonilla. Ahh the power of compounded interest. The way it works, the Mets set aside $6 million in 2000 @ a rate of 12% per year. They are not allowed to withdraw any funds until year 11, in which they can withdraw $1,200,000 per year for 25 years. After the 25 years, and after paying off Bonilla, the Mets will have…drum roll please….$138 million. So they took the $6 million he was supposed to receive and invested it themselves and made $132 million for themselves on it. They also have a similar deal with Bret Saberhagen. Now here comes the problem with this deal and others. Madoff is the one that was guaranteeing them the 12%. So the Mets are now going to be paying the players out of their pockets, with new 2011 dollars, not 2000 compounded dollars, and on top of that, never receiving the $138 million lump sum. Much of the speculated $700 million the Mets lost was not what they lost out of pocket, but what was supposed to be there after this great compounded rate.

Read more: http://theropolitans.com/2009/08/bobby-bonillas-back-on-payroll-in-2011.html#ixzz0Op9esdOQ

by voodoomusic on Aug 21, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

and as a comparison point

If Bonilla had taken the $6M payout in 2000 and invested it himself at a much more realistic rate of 5%, compounding annually with no withdrawals, at the end of that 36-year term he would have a shade under $35M. Technically more than what the Mets are paying, but realistically less given what he can potentially do with investing the annual $1.2M payouts and the time value of money. Still, it’s not nearly as ridiculous a deal as it seems.

It really only makes sense to take a deal like this if you feel you don’t have any self-discipline and would squander the $6M payout, but given what happened to many players in Bonilla’s day (Clark, Gwynn etc. filing for bankruptcy) I’m sure he considered this possibility.

I know the Jays used to defer money in some players’ contracts, but I don’t know if this is still happening. The players and their agents have probably caught on to the fact that they’re actually not benefitting from this in the long run. It would actually be nice to set up something like this with, for example, B.J. (or offer Wells a similar long-term annuity to go away).

by voodoomusic on Aug 21, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed that in the comments and its true if they Mets did invest it.. although you are 100% right a rate of 12% is kinda unrealistic if it was promised.

Then again with the way the market tanked last October most investments lost 30-40% of their value so it still would have worked out poorly…

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Aug 21, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at it this way …. in 2000, Bonilla takes $5.9M and invests in an annuity that pays $1.2 per year for 25 years starting in 2011. What is the internal rate of return on that transaction? It is 20%. Pretty good deal for Bonilla.

It is not horrible if the Mets can earn over 20% on their money.

by aagoodfella on Aug 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

But again 20% on their money? The way the economy tanked? Unlikely.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Aug 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

who knows how much money the Mets could make on their money back then? It was the peak of the dot-com era, the stock mkt was rocking, everyone “had” lots of money. For all we know, in that environment, the Mets could have ploughed an extra $6M into advertising and drove $12M in incremental revenue. If so, they can still afford to pay Bonilla 20% and make out like bandits.

As for Bonilla, not sure if he was that smart or what. But there is no asset class in US that consistently delivers 20% returns and certainly not on a risk-free basis as the Mets were offering. Perhaps the Mets offered him 20% to attract his money away from the lure of “easy” tech rally money. Not sure. But in any case, with hindsight and assuming the Mets do not go under before Bonilla gets paid off, it was a very smart deal for Bonilla.

by aagoodfella on Aug 27, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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