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Walk Off Wins are Great

Rays 2 Blue Jays 3

We've lost enough games in walk off style, it is much nicer on this side. That 9th inning was interesting. Down by a run, facing J.P. Howell. John McDonald leading off the inning and Cito lets him hit. Truly a stupid move. Mac gets on base worse than almost anyone that plays professional baseball. And, surprise, he didn't get on. Then Cito pinch hits Rod Barajas for Raul Chavez. Chavez has been hitting better than Rod, but Rod is the streakiest hitter we've ever seen and he did hit a homer just Monday and has 4 hits in his last two game. I'm going to give credit for Cito knowing that. And he hit one out to tie the game, against an excellent closer. 

Then Marco Scutaro walked on 4 pitches. Aaron Hill flied out deep, he just missed it. Then Vernon Wells walked on a full count pitch. The ball four pitch looked like a strike to me but then strike two looked like a ball, so it all balanced out, winning run to second. Kevin Millar walked on 5 pitches, good job Kevin. I'm not a fan (no friggin' kidding) but he is smart enough to wait out a pitcher who has shown he has no control. Ruiz got to 2 strikes then Howell bounced a pitch 10 feet in front of the plate, Zaun tried to block it but he really had no chance. 

Now I really want to rag on Cito for not pich hitting for Johnny Mac but we won. But still, how do you not pinch hit in that spot? I'm sure John is a great guy. I was very impressed, watching in Seattle, that he and Scoot stayed out taking ground balls longer than anyone else, each game. You would think a guy that only played occasionally wouldn't be the last one out there every day. But still, he can't hit at all, you gotta pinch hit for him there.

Offensively, we didn't do much at all until that 9th inning. We did load the bases in the 2nd inning but Mac struck out and Chavez ground out and we blew that chance. In the 5th Travis Snider lead off the inning by getting brushed by a pitch. Mac was up after him, I thought I hated the sac bunt more than anyone but I'd have had Mac bunt. Cito didn't and Mac popped out. Raul Chavez doubled but Travis couldn't score. A Scutaro pop out and a Hill strike out and that threat ended. We scored in the 6th off a Millar (!) double followed by a Jose Bautista double.

Pitching? Marc Rzepczynski went 5.2 innings of hitless ball, but by then he had thrown over 100 pitches and a single and Gabe Kapler homer and he left the game after 6 innings down by two. Scrabble was really good, he did walk 5 which is what got his pitch count up so high, but he struck out 7. He looks like a keeper. Lots of young pitchers walk too many but if he can keep the hits down he'll be good.

Our pen was great. Jesse Carlson pitched a perfect 7th. Scott Downs gave up a hit and a walk but started a nice DP on a ball hit back to him. And Brandon League gave up two soft hits but struck out the side around them. The guy can't throw anything straight, every pitch he has moves. He got the win.

It was a strange game. Two plate umpires were hurt by balls hitting them. The first, Jerry Crawford, took a pitch dead off the mask. The masks are great but if a ball hits straight on there is only so much force it can absorb. Then later in the game the new plate umpire, Tom Hallion took a ball in the chest. Again the padding is great but you get hit hard enough and it is going to hurt. So we were on to the third plate umpire. I don't think I've ever seen that before, three plate umpires in one game. Having guys changing into plate umpire padding a couple of times during the game made for a long game. 

Jays of the Day are Barajas (.466 WPA),  Ruiz (.239) and Bautista (.142). Hmmmm let's take that one away from Ruiz, looks like Fangraphs credited Ruiz for the wild pitch. Honorable mention to, oh lots of guys, Scrabble, Downs, Carlson, League, and Millar. Could say Wells too, he took some close pitches to get that walk, but I won't. Suckage Jays are McDonald (-.260 on a 0 for 4, though he made two terrific plays at third in the first inning) and Hill (-.194 for an 0 for 5 game). Snider came close at (-.098) but he did take one for the team to lead off the 5th which could have been a good thing had we scored him. 

Anyway, tomorrow the Jays have an off day then we have 3 in Boston. Hopefully we'll win a couple. In other JP Riccardi said the Jays wouldn't be calling up J.P. Arencibia in September. I don't think any of us were expecting he would be called up. 

And yep, I'm tired of seeing Millar in the cleanup spot and even more tired of watching him in the field. He did have a good game today, walking twice and hitting a double. But still, enough is enough. Let's go the last 37 games games without seeing that. 

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look at the first picture on bluejays.com

(titled Jays beat Rays in ninth…) what is going on with Chavez’s mouth?

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by boo15749 on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

looks funny doesn't it,

but that is his chin he is making a face and stretching out his chin

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by JohnnyG on Aug 27, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the reason he didn't pinch-hit for Mac

was that he wanted a guy who can actually play 3rd out there in case of extra innings (he’s not Rolen, but i’d take Mac’s glove over Bautista’s there any day). Also, what if he took Mac out, and the game went into extras and Scoot or Hill got hurt? That’s not a pleasing scenario to anyone.

On the other hand, you want to win it before extras so you try to get a big pinch-hitter out there and he had Lind and Overbay on the bench. Maybe he was thinking righty vs. lefty, which can be flawed logic anyways, but it doesn’t really matter now seeing as to how we won. Personally I would’ve called for a bunt and had him try to leg it out.

by crackerz_86 on Aug 27, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that is the thing...

You can’t play for extra innings since you aren’t even there yet. I just think (and AAgoodfella said this in the game thread as well) that Cito was in love with the rightie/leftie leftie/rightie matchup to make the switch.

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by JohnnyG on Aug 27, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was fun

the win, I mean, not letting Mac hit for himself. There are few, if any major-league players who would be a worse choice for that plate appearance than J-Mac.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 27, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Well that was a pleasant surprise...

Getting home and seeing that the Jays actually pulled off a win, and a walk off one at that. Haven’t seen too many of those this year. And I’m glad my prediction of a Rays sweep was wrong too.

by Icedragon on Aug 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Also...

Hopefully the Jays can return the favor to Boston and sweep the Sox. Not optimistic on that but it would sure be nice!

by Icedragon on Aug 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Here is a question for you:

OMG, why did the Rays not pull Howell? I mean that guy was bouncing balls 15ft ahead of the plate, and whizzing them overhead all night. Of his 36 pitches only 15 were strikes – an atrocious 42%. He walked three guys and gave up a home run. I mean, what the heck kind of sign do you need that the guy does not have it that night?

So here is the question. If Cito had acted the way the Rays mgr did last not in not pulling Howell, despite the ridiculously horrible metrics noted above, how much screaming, ranting and calls for Cito’s head would there be (here on BBB) today? I mean, how bad of personnel mgmt did we witness by the Rays last night?

I am not complaining cuz the Rays gave the Jays a win … but wow, bad, really really bad.

by aagoodfella on Aug 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at Brad Lidge...

He’s been absolutely atrocious for Philly this year, but they keep on putting him in anyway. And it’s not like the same thing hasn’t happened with Jays closers this year, Downs on a couple of occasions for instance. I guess its just the manager trying to show faith in their closer and let them (try to) do their jobs.

by Icedragon on Aug 27, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kerry Wood anyone?

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by JohnnyG on Aug 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a good strategy

if you have a good closer. Not so much if you don’t but the manager has an attitude that he’s “the guy”

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody in the pen warming up

he got an out, then gave up a homer, then walked scoot and got hill out. then a couple 2 out walks. At what point do you get someone up in the pen? odds are the game will be won or lost by the time anybody is ready.

by ucantcoachthat on Aug 27, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

also on J-Mac

unless its your only catcher, you cant think about defense in extras, you just cant. I dont care if scoot and hill run into each other in the 10th and your forced to throw 2 pitchers from the bullpen to play middle infield… like JohnnyG says worry about extras when you GET to extras.

by ucantcoachthat on Aug 27, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Though, happily enough

We have a few pitchers who were infielders (SS mostly) in college…. we’d be fiiiiiine :P

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Aug 28, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it'd be fun

to watch Marcum play a little infield. But I doubt that’s in his rehab plan

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Janssen a SS too?

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by JohnnyG on Aug 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

played some first base and outfield, I think.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought third base

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by jessef on Aug 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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