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Things I Like About Going to the States

I started this post in Seattle but didn't get it finished, then didn't have a moment before heading away last week. Now that I'm back I thought I'd finish it off.

There is a fairly large anti-American bias in Canada with some folks, which I don't really understand. Like any neighbor we aren't going to agree on everything but then I don't agree with everything my government does. I like going south of the border once or twice a year and thought I'd list the reasons why.

  • IHOP, I love IHOP, and there aren't any in Alberta.
  • Biscuits and gravy, I love biscuits and gravy for breakfast. It is a good thing that it is hard to get it in Canada, or I'd be 400 pounds. But if I get to the US twice in a year I have it a couple of mornings and the craving goes away for months. A friend from the states came to visit last year and showed us how to make white gravy but I think it is best for my health not to do it. 
  • People there, for the most part, like to talk. I think we are more reserved at home, but I find in the states people will talk to you, which I like. As with anywhere, there are good and bad people anywhere you go but I like that Americans are quite forward compared to people on this side of the border.
  • Bookstores. I love bookstores but at home we pretty much only have Chapter/Indigo and very few used book stores. In a one block stretch in Seattle there were several great book stores. I bought a book on the Negro Baseball League, with beautiful painted illustrations called We Are The Ship.
  • Baseball of course, most of the time when we go to the states, a baseball game or two (or more) is in the plans.
  • Crowds. Calgary is a city of a million people but we are spread out, you rarely find yourself in a crush of people. Seattle, Pikes Place was very crowded and great fun and Times Square in New York was a wonderful play to people watch. 
  • Hearing different accents is something I enjoy. Doesn't really apply to Seattle, but in the east or south, part of the fun is the differing ways people talk. 
  • Shopping, I don't really buy that much but you can get somethings that are different than you can here. I have a nice pair of purple Converse runners in Houston that I haven't seen in any shops in Calgary.

The bad part about going to the US: American beer. I'm sure there are good micro breweries there, just like there are here, but the major brands are just awful. The only thing worse than the regular brands are the 'light' beers, when the regular beer is basically water, how do you make light beer?

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welcome back!

next time you go to the States, I’ll have to make you a list of good American regional beers to try. In Seattle it is really easy to get Rogue (Portland-based) most everywhere, which makes a lot of good beers and is one of the godfathers of the microbrew movement in the US. I think Jesse also mentioned the Black Butte Porter which is made by Deschutte, also out of Oregon – a great one if you like dark beers. North Coast and Mendocino, which are based in Northern California, make a lot of great beers too. Red Hook is the biggest Seattle micro I can think of and they aren’t bad either. I’m sure this information would’ve been more helpful to you a few weeks ago, though

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 9, 2009 4:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I did have a couple of microbrews in Seattle

but there are so many, it was wild guesses. Add in that I rarely drink more than a couple of beers in a night so a fell back on Guinness when it was available.

As for when I go back, we are going on a cruise over Christmas leaving out of Miami, but likely won’t spend more than a day or two there. I’m already thinking about where to go next year to catch a few Jay’s games. Seattle is closest but there are a number of US cities I haven’t been to yet, the stadium in Cleveland looks beautiful. We will have to discuss where it would be best to go.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IHOP IHOP IHOP!

'But I don't want to go among mad people' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that' said the Cat 'we're all mad here'.

by JohnnyG on Aug 9, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kelowna has an IHOP....

So NYAH! :P

I’ve never eaten there though… Denny’s man myself.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Aug 9, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Denny's is terrible

but can someone who likes IHOP afford to be snooty about it?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 9, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure can....

though I’ll admit I’ve been in some crummy IHOPs too. Really it is that we don’t have them here that is the draw. My wife liked Popeye Chicken because we don’t have them here for years too.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a few friends and i once stumbled into a Denny's at about 4:30 in the morning

There was a 1.99 grandslam breakfast starting around a quarter after five. we sat and drank coffee until then. it wasn’t worth it.

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Aug 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BLASPHEMER

Denny’s is terrific… we live about 2 blocks away from one of the ones in Edmonton… great when we’re up at 4am and realise we haven’t gotten any groceries.

Funny(ish) story about Denny’s – I think in March this year they had a promotion where you could get a free Grand Slam at any Denny’s between 6am and 2pm on one specific day. My roommates and a friend borrowed a truck and hit every Denny’s in the Edmonton area (including the one in St. Albert). I got woken up around noon from the sounds of them puking at the apartment – 4 Grand Slams each in about 5 hours. Of course, they rallied and went to the 5th and 6th (I joined for the 5th) and got it done. As much as I like Denny’s… shudder

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Aug 9, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just reading that put me off Denny's forever....

I hope it did for them too. I remember a Jay Leon joke when Denny’s was giving a free meal if you came in on your birthday. He said ‘if you are in Denny’s on your birthday, it is a sign that your life isn’t going well’.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, maybe that was the wrong story to convince your Denny's greatness...

Let’s put it this way – for college students who like to eat but don’t like forking out tons of money, Denny’s is a good deal, especially when they’re loaded.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Aug 9, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, being drunk would help.....

I’m sure if we didn’t have them here I’d like them better…..IHOP, it is half the good experiences of being on holiday

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never thought there's a serious anti-U.S. bias in Canada

As a Canadian living in NYC, I think it’s quite funny when Canadians worry about the “anti-American” bias that “many” Canadians supposedly possess. Outside of some minor silliness during the playing of national anthems at certain hockey games and low-level trade disputes, has there really been any serious “anti-Americanism” displayed by Canadians. I don’t recall any serious talk of starting a trade war with Americans or to cutting off military relations. Has anyone ever heard of a significant incident—outside of random drunk 19-year-olds in bars at the border—of anyone being physically attacked or illegally discriminated against because they were American?

What there is:

1) Your normal degree of poking fun/smug superiority vis-a-vis neighbours;

2) Some semi-justified resentment that the average American knows so much less about Canada than the other around. (I say semi-justified, because it’s understandable that a lot of people in a big place won’t know as much about a much smaller neigbouring place….);

3) Irritation when the wider world conflates Canadians with Americans, or dismiss us as “the same thing.” Thoughtful Canadians recognize that this is not really the fault of Americans, outside of their being much bigger than us.

When particularly inspired by a particular crazy American or exhausted of inspiration regarding other more challenging topics, Canadian stand-up comics are capable of coming up with a good deal of humour mocking a stereotype of the dumb American. But I don’t think this counts as anti-Americanism in any serious sense.

P.S.: Actual New Yorkers DESPISE Times Square and its crowds, and avoid it all costs unless they’re attending a Broadway show…I do like the current attempt to redesign its layout, though…

by tameszu on Aug 9, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as a native New Yorker

I can say with certainty that I hate Times Square. I did love Pike’s Place in Seattle, though that might be due to the fact that I’ve never lived there. Of course, then again there’s actually something to do at Pike’s Place.

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Aug 9, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 on hating Times Square

-1 on Actual New Yorkers attending Broadway shows

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 9, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actual NYers...

…who are not mouth-breathing Yankees’ fans will attend Broadway shows that are not (1) produced by Disney Inc.; or (2) based on a movie or compilation of cheesy old rock songs.

(Someone’s gotta help support all of those adorable young actors/actresses waiting tables and tending bar in Manhattan on their non-show days!)

by tameszu on Aug 9, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

those are pretty few and far between these days, I’m afraid, which wasn’t the case in my NYC youth when I actually did used to go a fair bit.

Where in NY do you live?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 9, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed seeing Nixon/Frost on Broadway

kids loved Spamalot and we saw a musical that wasn’t bad. But I like live theater. No not disney things.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frost/Nixon was very good...

…Frank Langella is very impressive…

…I was also a fan of Xanadu—v/ creative making a decent live show out of one of the worst movies of all time…I wasn’t even a fan of musicals (as opposed to straight plays) before I moved to NYC…

by tameszu on Aug 10, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh hai...

…I live on the Upper West Side in the ‘70s (the lower-ish part, I guess). (You’re in D.C., right?)

I’ve become a huge fan of live theatre, due to the amazing drama school where I went to grad/law school—so I’ve got very fond memories of Avenue Q, Spring Awakening, Journey’s End, and the 2d-last perf of Vanessa Redgrave in The Year of Magical thinking…

by tameszu on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, in DC now

Grew up in NYC though

Used to go to the theatre a lot growing up, but was more a fan of the smaller ones around the village, brooklyn, the colleges than the big Broadway stuff, though there was some solid stuff there too (if you could avoid the tourist hordes going to see Cats, haha)

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Aug 10, 2009 8:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Marin Brewing Company (just north of golden gate bridge) makes an AWESOME blueberry beer

by aagoodfella on Aug 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

US diet secrets beyond biscuits and gravy

Many years ago, as a school age youth, I was living in Florida (panhandle ie: deep south). My parents had to go away, so had some co-workers stay over for the week to watch over me and my siblings.

First night at dinner time, our watchdogs ask “where is your grease?”.
We are like “huh?”

Anyhow, we had none, but first thing they did was fill the frying pan 2 inches deep with oil, heat it up and drop in the meat for dinner. Then they poured the oil out into a jar after cooking and re-used every night (ie: the grease), using the same deep frying process. OMG, I am surprised everyone in the South does not die at 50, between the deep frying and Dakers’ biscuits and gravy (not to mention the fire hazzard of a 1/2 gallon of piping hot oil in your kitchen each night).

Another fave recipe: fill a pot with 5 cups of sugar, fill with water til it covers the sugar by an inch or two, throw in 5 tea bags and bring to a boil. This is your concentrate for sweet tea. Add water, refrigerate and consume when cold. Goes great with your deep fried vittles. LOL

Between the grease cooking, sweet tea and biscuits and gravy …. man, that is some not so healthy eating.

by aagoodfella on Aug 9, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh heck...

my family is english, though we didn’t do it, fry grease is a big deal to some of countrymen. but I have heard of families coming to blows over who gets a dead relative’s fry grease. Sweet tea is a pleasure I have missed.

 But a figure the 4 or 5 times I year I have biscuits and gravy likely won’t be the thing that kills me.

by Tom Dakers on Aug 9, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhg... The iced tea down in the States is brutal.

I remember the first time I tried American “iced tea” and realised that it literally is just cold tea. My football coach (from Oregon) was laughing his butt off at the face I made when all the linemen were over from a pre-game meal at his house.

Root beer it was all visit.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by wroth91 on Aug 9, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tea irony

LOL, the funny thing about tea is that if you drink tea the cold way, Americans (relative to CDNs) tend to be more purists. That is, they brew their iced tea whereas CDNs tend to go for the instant stuff.

In contrast, CDNs tend to be more purist in terms of hot tea, by consuming it more regularly, having well respected brands like Red Rose and Morris whilst American hot tea drinkers are a much rarer breed and in many places they actually sell instant hot tea (puuuaaah!)

i always found this contrast kind of amusing

by aagoodfella on Aug 9, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

language issues in the US

In undergrad, me and a couple friends took a road trip to Boston (great place to visit, especially for big Ben Franklin fans like myself). We got lost and saw a parked police cruiser with two cops inside so walked up to driver side door, explained we were lost tourists and needed some directions.

The driver cop started reciting out directions in a thick thick Boston and we were affirming “ya”, “ok” etc … Meanwhile, the passenger cop started singing “Oh Canada” as back up music and made it all the way through! When he got done, he leaned over and asked “en francais?”. I was thinking, this guy has to be a Bruins fan and picked up the lyrics and French watching Habs – Bruins wars in the playoffs.

Anyhow, we thanked them for the directions (and song) and walked off. However, due to the thick Boston accent we were still disoriented. One of us said “I did not understand a damn thing that guy said, did you guys catch any of that?” “Hell no!” and we all burst out laughing.

Bottom line, due to the accents, traveling in US can offer some language challenges. ;-) That said, I may not care for BoSox too much, but Boston cops are alright.

by aagoodfella on Aug 10, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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