Only I Can Hear Me / I'm Stuck Inside a Cloud: 9/25 Game Thread, Mariners at Jays
by hugo on Sep 25, 2009 6:16 PM EDT
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PrintSeattle Mariners at Toronto Blue Jays, Sep 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT
Let's go Jays, let's go Doc!
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it must be cool to be at field level
but I don’t think those seats actually give a great view of the game
I paid $200 a game for seats like those when we played at the Dodgers a few years back
and yeah, the view isn’t great.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I'd love to sit in those for one game
but I think the view is better from higher up. The seats I get are in the 2nd row in the 2nd deck a few seats over from behind home plate, that gives a great view of everything except the outside corner of the plate to RH batters
Had a seat at AT&T for the very next game
extend the 3rd base line through the first base line stands, about 20 rows back. Better view and much cheaper.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Cito said today if the jays don't have a shot at the playoffs in 2010 then maybe
it’s time to trade Doc
I think
after the Rios and Rolen trades, it became time to trade Doc
If we hadn't traded Rolen mid-season we would have had to trade him in the off-season
if he was so unhappy. (And I don’t think the opportunity to get Stewart would have been there.) And both moves freed up salary that could go to Doc.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I guess
I just thought that those trades signalled a concession that the team likely won’t compete in 2010, and thought that trading Halladay became a good idea at that point (BTW, I was very much against trading Doc at the deadline, before the Rios and Rolen trades). Before those deals, I thought the team could be improved this offseason to contending status (factoring in the guys coming off injuries), but I’m somewhat less sure now.
Anyway, I’m sure this has been argued to death while I have been gone. I probably shouldn’t add to it
well, dumping the Rios contract was just a good business move, IMHO it was not admission of anything except that they made a bad decision when they signed the contract
by moving Rolen, yea, I agree that was probably an indication that Jays were not going to make the playoffs although obviously that decision was made mathematically for the Jays long before the trading deadline
If you look at the deal the Red Sox supposedly offered
that everyone else can’t figure out why the Jays wouldn’t have accepted it if it was offered, I would have taken it. The only position player in the deal was a left fielder, and we already proved you need more than the best pitching in the league to win games.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
somebody in another thread
posted a comment about a conspiracy theory for why Ruiz not being played
because Ruiz was making JP “eat his words”
does anyone know what the comment was in reference to?
If you think Ctio doesn't use a player because JP said something about him....
then I have so land for you
I think someone asked JP why Ruiz wasn't up
and he said Ruiz wasn’t a major leaguer.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I love Jamie....
If the Jays scored more runs in the games Doc lost he’d have more wins…….well ummmm yeah, that’s how baseball works
my fave comment from hockey player interviews
“we just have to start putting the puck in the net more often”
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
Az der bubbe vot gehat baytzim vot zie geven mein zayde
translation (from Yiddish): if my grandmother had balls, she’d be my grandfather
what is the deal with catcher barrett
I read an article on bluejays.com about catching situation and there was not even a mention on Barrett … but Jays have an option on him
JP has been pretty vocal in the media the last two days, some interesting quotes, such as
"If we’re going to play in the big man’s division, and we’re not going to spend that money, it’s going to be really hard for us to compete with those teams."
and this one:
"Let me make this clear: It doesn’t matter if J.P. Ricciardi is the GM, or Joe Blow is the GM. Two years from now, five years from now, seven years from now, the reality that we face in Toronto is the division is not going to change. The Red Sox and Yankees are not going away. If the Yankees want to, they can take their payroll to $300 million."
Wasn't the Yankees' payroll $100M when JP was hired
and they were already the free spending bullies of the league?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
And they spend smarter now than they did then too
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Mac looked great
i will not be sad if there is room for him next year
Never heard that one
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
From the Globe and Mail:
“The GM also did not rule out the possibility that all-star second baseman Aaron Hill might have a future at shortstop, dependent of course on Hill agreeing to the switch.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/globe-on-baseball/trouble-on-the-farm/article1300522/
yea, i was going to say “didn’t rule out the possibility” and actually saying Hill might play SS are two very different things
a reporter could ask JP “what are the chances of Hill moving to shortstop” and than JP gets a cell phone call and runs off … and voila, you have “didn’t rule out the possibility”
perhaps this is why some pro sports mgmt warn players not to pay attention to the media
Not quite what he said...not even close.
He was just musing options.
THE THREE FACES OF ADAM HILL
here are some comparative defensive stats for Hill at SS, 2B, 3B
3B – innings=286 – error per inning=.017 – field%=.949
2B – innings=4272 – error per inning=.007 – field%=.988
SS – innings=549 – error per inning=.022 – field%=.953
hmmmm
how big a crowd?
lots of folks at 500 lev
he has an amazing arm but doesn't seem that he gets to balls all the well
course with his bat, he shouldn’t be playing a corner outfield spot
great defender and good OBP at a premium position
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I think, having not really looked at the numbers in a bit...
plays great defense, gets on base and very consistent.
I think you could argue for Scooter over Lind
based on defense and positional scarcity, but Hill plays a premium defensive position as well.
Pitchers never win the MVP
They have their own award
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I know
but we aren’t voting for the real MVP, we are voting for our Blue Jays MVP. And I wanted to know what Doc’s WAR numbers are.
Also, pitchers sometimes win the MVP, though usually not the most deserving ones.
2007 NL MVP Jimmy Rollins
had a WAR of 6.7 according to Fangraphs
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
Time for some baserunners
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
yeah you hit better pension numbers...
but then it is easy to say you will quit when no one offers you money…
LOL
Edwin is really making Overbay earn his pay
sorry for all the quotes tonight, but I though this is worth it, this is from Bastian's
twitter, the source is Bob Nightengale, USA Today baseball writer:
“Hottest rumor among baseball scouts is that Pat Gillick will be returning to Toronto to become president of club, not GM.”
Well there's a little run support
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
roy looking great
77 pitches (56 strikes) through 6 — on track for 115 over 9
Once again, cheers for the pizza
not the K
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
inglett could play 2B
if Hill went to SS if need be
Inglett is a non-prospect though
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
do you think all this talk of Hill at SS
is indicative that the Jays feel they will be unable to sign Scutaro?
no is more like an idle remark.
I’m not sure that the Jays wouldn’t mind the first round draft picks though
Keith Law was talking about a philosophical shift
between when we drafted the guys and the signing deadline. I wonder if we got the equalization payments back and that meant we were beholden to slot.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
But that was 3 times later round slot
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
could be right, I hope they don't stick to slot with all the picks next
year though. Just seems odd when pre-draft beeston said they were going over slot and was considering not even applying for the equilization payments.
There's not all this talk
there’s one offhand comment that’s being parroted
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
learning to cook for himself?
he signed a 7 digit bonus
he can order in
If that was his last start at the Dome as a Jay
He made it count
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
I believe that
I would bet Doc’s focus is such that nothing beyond the game enters his mind
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
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