The More You Ignore Me, the Closer I Get: 9/26 Game Thread, Mariners at Jays
by hugo on Sep 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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Yesterday's game was unbelievable.
Today -- Purcey v. Ian Snell. I'll be flipping back and forth between this game and the 2nd half of Fulham and Arsenal. What can I stay, London derby. Who knows, maybe the lineups will even be working by the time the game starts.
No Millar!
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of course
no Ruiz either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it's a Morrissey song
was watching Fulham-Arsenal and it put me in the mood
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that's on a channel I don't get here....
and my wife is complaining enough about how much the cable costs…
it's on Fox Soccer Channel in the states
which used to cost extra but our cable company added it to our basic package, much to my delight
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
wish I could watch Newcastle though
they scored 3 goals within 4 minutes
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
maybe, if they get lucky on injuries
they have hardly any players though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I can't really complain...there is lots of english league games on the channels I get...
and I get a channel that has a lot of italian league stuff. But there is a full time soccer/rugby channel that I wouldn’t mind
Setanta?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
talking about soccer reminds me
I’m taking the little girl to the DC United match tomorrow – can you do the game thread?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeha I think I can...I negotiated with my wife that I could play racquet ball today
and would take the boy to hockey tomorrow
an Irish channel - I think they went bankrupt
for some reason I don’t understand they are still on in North America, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the first half was definitely worth watching
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I loved getting the free preview of that for a few weeks last year...
Watched a ton of rugby, aussie rules and gaelic football. Meh to soccer…
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
how goes it?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
am watching the end of the first half of the London derby
so I haven’t put the Jays on yet
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Randy Ruiz
I just don’t understand it. Is Bautista even in the team’s plans next year? And how hard would
it be for Ruiz to learn playing at 1B? He’s done it before. I guarantee at least 20 HR/80 RBI
next season if he plays every day at 1B. I would have kicked Overbay to the curb a long time
ago. Cito is just a stubborn old man, and it’s incredibly frustrating to see how the season is
ending. I am this*close to going postal over Ruiz not playing.
I'd like to see more Ruiz too
but it’s hardly worth going crazy over. And Ruiz is cheaper, but it’s extremely unlikely he’d be a better all-around player than Overbay over a full season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Wasted opportunity
What’s driving me crazy is that we may never find out what Ruiz can do. This would
have been the ideal time to find out if he can play every day. We know what Bautista
can do, but what about Ruiz? I better take some deep breaths because I am close to
popping a vein …
yes, I think so
though I can’t imagine he wouldn’t hit better than Overbay against lefties
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'm pretty he's equally good on both sides, at least in AAA he was
He’d have a minor role, but we won’t know if he’ll be able to take on that role, cause he’s not being tried at 1B.
He won’t be a full time DH (or we’re in trouble) and Overbay shouldn’t see lefties, so there’s a need over there… And he’s not a prospect anymore, so it’s not as if he needs lots of AB’s (i.e. in the minors) to help him “progress”.
Ruiz/Overbay platoon next season
If the JP/Cito circus act is around, they will probably release Ruiz in the
off-season, and re-sign Millar with a pay raise. Personally, I would try to
trade Overbay and Millar ideally should retire.
Overbay might not be back, it's true
I don’t think he’s been happy about platooning, but he has been absolutely brutal against lefties for 2 seasons now
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Overbay unhappy?
I hope this is a joke because I just turned a darker red. What did we
get for our $24 million? And he’s unhappy?!? I better take a walk
outside …
I am a die hard fan
And I take losing personally … more than JP and Cito
apparently.
if you take losing more personally than the guys involved...might be time to pull back a bit.....
Ruiz isn’t good enough to worry all that much about. Overbay is a better player than he is.
though if you are optimistic enough about Ruiz
you could argue the Jays should try to trade Overbay (assuming they can find a buyer), insert Ruiz, and free up money elsewhere — even if Overbay is better than Ruiz, you might be able to improve the team with the extra money (and whatever you get in return) enough to outweigh it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
since the Jays traded for Overbay
they have paid him $18.7 million and gotten $25.5 million in value from him
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Overbay value
Hugo, can you please direct me to the formula? I have seen
references in other posts but never seen the actual crunching.
Thanks.
sure
The value is based on WAR, wins above a replacement player. Actually, it may underestimate Overbay’s value since he is very good at digging out bad throws and that’s not taken into account in the defensive formula (UZR) that’s used.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
although
I hear he pees in the shower, which WAR also neglects.
Good point
those things probably cancel one another out
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
awful
34 walks and 27 Ks in 52 innings, though somehow he’s 5-2
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
did you hear that Kyle Phillips and his brother Jason had a foot race at rogers
yesterday, while the whole team watched, and laughed I’m sure
he does
against lefties
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
.858 OPS against them this season
.824 over his career
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
right
but the team could definitely afford to carry him if they didn’t overextend him
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
more than he's worth
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I thought we wouldn't offer arbitration last year
and then we did
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I guess the moral is don't try to out guess them.
I still don’t understand why we don’t have another guy that can play SS on the roster
I like his focus on defense
and getting rid of Betancourt for anything useful was pretty stunning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
a few good moves, lots of poor ones
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
great play
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
without Rolen
and especially if we lose Scoot and/or Lyle, we will need pitchers who don’t rely too much on contact and grounders
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah I'd like to see purcey make the team
I’m really curious if Pat Gullick is the one they want for President. I
all sorts of rumours are flying, so hard to gauge for me, Steve Phillips said yesterday
that Ricciardi will be back yesterday, then there are 10 other reporters who say he’s gone.
after his recent quotes
about how the Jays can’t compete with the Sox and Yankees unless they spend more money, no matter who the GM is, I can’t imagine he’ll be back. Not that the quote is a firing offense, just not the words of someone who is coming back
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that was ridiculous
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
his articles are actually not bad
if he just e-mailed them to me, I would link to them all the time, instead of just attempting to use our site as his personal advert
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah...got that one from the New Hampshire Cats guy and it was easy to link to..
and got one yesterday from a guy that wrote about a possible wells trade that I’ll link to later
yeah the wrote a something about trading milton and Soriano for Wells...
figuring the money was similar.
when a team is struggling
everyone has their own reasons why or way to fix it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah
it should be a pretty interesting spring training
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Doc, Marcum, Romero, Zep, Cecil, Richmond, Tallet, Ray, Mills, maybe McGowan and
maybe Litsch at some point, am I missing anyone?
Purcey isn't pitching too badly
but he used a lot of pitches that inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
good start for us
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Well, that's one way to end a game
Lind with a HR in extras. Booya.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
MVP - Lind
If we had been in the wild card chase (which we should have been this season), both
Lind and Hill would have been mentioned as MVP candidates.
Anyways, I will take the W. Let’s get ’em tomorrow.
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