AL Gold Glove Winners
by Tom Dakers on Nov 9, 2010 3:45 PM EST
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PrintNot a Jay among them:
Catcher: Joe Mauer, Twins
First base: Mark Teixeira, Yankees
Second base: Robinson Cano, Yankees
Third base: Evan Longoria, Rays
Shortstop: Derek Jeter, Yankees
Outfield: Carl Crawford, Rays
Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners
Outfield: Franklin Gutierrez, Mariners
Pitcher: Mark Buehrle, White Sox
How Jeter can win again is beyond me.
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Longoria, Crawford, Gutierrez, and Ichiro are great choices.
Cano, Jeter, Teixiera are poor ones (hmmm)
I like Mauer, but I doubt he’s the best fielding catcher in the league.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Just because a .333 batting average can win the batting title some years doesn’t mean going 1-for-3 there is good.
I guess it’s “surprisingly good” if you were expecting them to get none right. That’s probably a fair sentiment.
Unless Ichiro was allowed to bank outs from previous years he really shouldn’t be anywhere near this list. Doubly so considering his spot somewhat comes at the expense of Peter Bourjos.
are you mad?
Bourjos played 50 games in 2010. Granted, UZR thinks he was spectacular in the field, but are you really surprised that a dude who played less than 1/3 of a season didn’t win?
Ichiro had a 15.6 UZR in right field this season and was equally good according to Dewan’s DRS. He was 3rd in the AL in UZR for outfielders and has been doing it for years now. You can always make a case for other players but Ichiro definitely earned his award.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
also
Ichiro won the Fielding Bible award for 2010 for Right Field (which is given for all of MLB, not just the AL), with this blurb:
Ichiro wins his third award in 2010. He saved 12 runs defensively for the 2010 Mariners. His three-year total of 39 runs saved ties him with Hunter Pence for the highest total in that time period. Ichiro made three home-run-saving catches last year, saving five runs for the Mariners.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Rafael Palmero won it, playing a big 28 games at first base
So there it has happened before but no it would be pretty stupid to give the guy the award for playing just a handful of games
Amazing that Encarnacion was overlooked at 3B. Typical.
A Toronto sports blog, where unabashed homerism is alive and well...
by eyebleaf on Nov 9, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Haha
I just came to make a smart assed comment about E5.
Beat me to it,
Jeter? Really? Seriously?
I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I'm intercontinental when I eat French Toast.
by craig in calgary on Nov 9, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jeter??
I wonder what Jeter’s gold glove was based on. Maybe fielding %?
Hopefully it adds a few million to his contract :)
by JaysSaskatchewan on Nov 9, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions
How Jeter keeps winning
From an MLB.com article on how the voting system needs to change:
One joke goes that Gold Gloves are like Supreme Court appointments: They’re hard to get, but once you have them, they’re for life.
Fangraphs says...
Jeter ranks 7th of the 9 AL SS’s that it lists as qualifying in the AL. Regardless whether there are other candidates or not, it is ABUNDANTLY clear that Jeter is no longer the fielder he was and is wholly undeserving of this award. He rated a -4.7 UZR which only beat out the miserable Yuniesky Betancourt and Bartlett of the Rays. Alexei Ramirez scored a 10.8 UZR while Cliff Pennington scored a 9.9, making them the top 2 contenders. Both Elvis Andrus and ex-Jay Scutaro received higher UZR ratings as well. It’s not even like Jeter’s bat was light-years beyond these guys either, posting an OPS of .710, which is terrible.
I have no idea how these awards are determined, but whoever decided Jeter somehow earned this award was using heavy narcotics.
"the fielder he once was"
yeah, he put up a 6 RAR season in 2009, which is his only season above 2 RAR. He also has 6 seasons with a RAR under -11 (including a -23 campaign!). he has never been a good fielder, period.
Good point
I should have clarified he is not the fielder he was in 2009. He’s one of the most overrated players in the game. I think it just reflects how out-of-touch managers are with sabermetrics when they are the ones picking the Gold Glove winners, right? How can all the Yankees win? It’s just absurd, if the manager have no clue what is actually going on, then find someone who does. And don’t look at the players or MSM sportswriters either.
If it helps
Right now at Pinstripe Alley they’re arguing about how badly the process must be flawed because their guy shouldn’t have won…
I've been looking at the sky
Good for them. (absolutely no sarcasm intended)
Good fans can recognize when something that goes for their team shouldn’t have.
Eternal Hope
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
well in the same breath they are complaining that Gardner didn't win, haha
and saying that Teixiera and Cano deserved to, so let’s not give them too much credit
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
According to Fangraphs
Gardner’s UZR was 3 times that of Gutierrez with a better arm rating. Crawford and Ichiro were 2nd and 3rd in the AL in UZR, so those are good votes, but the Yankee fans have a legitimate beef with the Gardner snub.
Teixiera was 5th among qualifying 1Bs, so he shouldn’t have won. Daric Barton was far and away #1 according to UZR, with our Lyle coming in 2nd.
I agree Gardner wouldn't have been a bad choice, not at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Come on
Gardner is compared to LF, while Gutierrez is compared to CF. Add about 15 runs to Gutierrez because he plays centre as opposed to left and look at a bigger sample of fielding than one season. Complaining about Gutierrez winning is laughable. The past three seasons he’s been worth more than two wins per season.
If you want to call Gardner a snub because he beat Crawford out in the Fielding Bible awards, I still think you’re misinterpreting the word snub, but there’s certainly a case. Gardner may have been deserving, but he certainly was not snubbed — and especially not by Gutierrez. I think the point was that, given the players that won gold gloves, complaining about who won in the OF is garbage.
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
that was my point
Gardner had a solid case, but there’s a difference between that and the GG selections which were clearly wrong.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
interestingly,
this is the first time in 10 years that at least two of the al outfield winners weren’t center fielders. 2000 (Bernie Williams, Darrin Erstad, Jermaine Dye) was the last time, though winner Erstad did play 30 games in center that year. In the NL it’s been even longer (1998).
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
espn article
Of course, it’s not just us. Nobody who really follows baseball believes that Jeter is an outstanding defensive player. The Yankees, who see him every day, don’t believe that. The writers who cover the Yankees every day don’t believe that. Frankly, I’m not sure the managers and the coaches who actually voted for Jeter believe that.
http://espn.go.com/blog/SweetSpot/post/_/id/6238/gold-glove-results-mixed-as-usual
by JaysSaskatchewan on Nov 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions
When ESPN is calling for a foul
you know something went horrifically wrong.
Jeters Contract Negotiation
so much for a much regressed shortshop on the defensive side eh? haha. maybe this will cost the yankees several more million
How did they manage to overlook Posada?
by JaysSaskatchewan on Nov 9, 2010 6:51 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
nicely done
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I do feel very sorry for both Daric Barton and Alexei Ramirez.
Future scouting reports for good fielders should say “future Gold Glover, if on the Yankees”.
Cliff Pennington had a great season at short too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Does anyone know how the voting actually works?
I know that the coaches and managers vote on the gold gloves. Do they only select one person or is there multiple selection with ranking? I’m pretty sure there is no run-off vote.
The reason I ask is because of the Jeter selection. I think there were a lot of potential candidates and he could have won with < 20% of the vote depending upon the voting process.
by JaysSaskatchewan on Nov 10, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions
it's a bit of a black box, I think
the only rule I know is that they can’t vote for their own players.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
The flaw might not be in who votes, but in the process? For example if he won 15% of the vote but none of the other 85% would have voted for him in a run-off. Or at least he wouldn’t have received greater than 50% of the run-off vote. It would be very interesting to see what % of the vote he received.
by JaysSaskatchewan on Nov 10, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
yep, I definitely see what you're saying
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Romero won the Sports Mogul Gold Glove
http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?204799-2010-Sports-Mogul-MLB-Awards-Full-Voting-Results&p=1531645#post1531645
Overbay also finished second behind Daric Barton, while Aaron Hill and John Buck also received votes for the Jays at their respective positions.
On a side note, Buck also picked up a single vote for the Silver Slugger over at SM.
Haha
Here is another award Jeter won:
Derek Jeter Wins American League Cy Young Award
Derek Jeter’s trophy case got a little more crowded today.
After winning his fifth Gold Glove yesterday, baseball writers awarded the Yankees shortstop his first Cy Young award today by unanimous vote.
"I play this game for team rewards, but it is always a great honor to receive individual recognition, as well," Jeter said in a statement. "I am humbled to win the Cy Young Award, yet at the same time I feel it is as deserved as my Gold Gloves."
Jeter, who last pitched in relief in Little League, received 32 of 32 first-place votesfrom members of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America. In the press release announcing the results, the BBWAA noted Jeter’s 0.00 ERA, 0.00 WHIP and undefeated record.
But it wasn’t just statistics, said voter Mel Antonen of USA Today.
"Derek Jeter boasts the gaudy ERA and — for all we know, a 105 mph fastball — but he makes the other members of the Yankees staff better, too, with his leadership and awe-inspiring defense behind them," he said. "While the Jeter was more than deserving of the Cy Young this year and the obvious choice, it’s a travesty he hasn’t won the Cy Young before."
Tomorrow baseball announces the Rookie of the Year winners, and the Yankee captain is expected to take that award for the 16th time
I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I'm intercontinental when I eat French Toast.
by craig in calgary on Nov 10, 2010 1:22 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Here is one from Hardball Talk's twitter feed
Derek Jeter denied a National League Gold Glove award.
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