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Make your predictions: Alex Gonzalez and John McDonald

So we have two good glove/no hit type shortstops going into this season

Sea Bass was a free agent signing back in November he's making $2.75 million this year and has a team option for 2011 for $2.5 million. Last year he started the year with the Reds and traded to the Red Sox in the middle of August. For the Reds he was pretty terrible with the bat:


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2009 - Alex Gonzalez 68 243 16 51 12 0 3 26 15 36 0 1 .210 .258 .296

Then he turned into a reasonable hitter with the Red Sox:


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2009 - Alex Gonzalez 44 148 26 42 10 0 5 15 5 29 2 0 .284 .316 .453

Which one will we get? 

Bill James has him hitting .248/.305/.387 in 244 PA, 6 HR and 28 RBI. 

CHONE .234/.278/.362 in 413 PA, 10 HR and 43 RBI.

John McDonald, well you all know all about him, fan favorite, great glove, really likable guy, works very hard. He didn't get to play much last year, spending most of the year as a pinch runner. 


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2009 - John McDonald 73 151 18 39 7 0 4 13 1 18 0 2 .258 .271 .384

The 4 home runs was a career high. As I've mentioned (too often) when we watched him in batting practice in Seattle he was pulling everything down the line. 

Bill James has him hitting .234/.270/.317 in 150 PA, 2 homers and 12 RBI.

CHONE .233/.270/.322 in 248 PA, 3 homers and 22 RBI. 

So let us know how you think the Gonzalez and McDonald will share time and how they will hit. McDonald will likely be backup at second and third too. Same drill as always, give us PA, slash line, home runs, RBI and what ever else you feel like sharing. 

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Gonzo visited Beantown...

I’m praying to a plethora of IFSMers (Invisible Flying Spaghetti Monsters) that Alex can do his Boston numbers for a full season. Call me a dreamer. Mind you even those numbers are yuck. His Reds numbers – which might be more realistic – are enough to drive me to drink – SO – at least some good might come of it.

Defensively – both these guys will be excellent for our young pitchers – ’specially when combined with Hill at second.

by Mylegacy on Feb 9, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

I think Gonzalez is going to start more games than MacD.
He’ll hit .260/.300/.400
I see a team wanting him as a depth SS for a playoff push.

by FenixL on Feb 9, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

I think we'll see more than two SS this season...

AGonz:

350 PA
.255/.310/.420/.730, 10 HR, +8 defence

JMac:

150 PA
.240/.280/.350/.630, 2 HR, +2 defence

McCoy
150 PA
.275/.350/.400/.750, 4 HR, 12 SB, -2 defence

I really think we could use McCoy as the 25th man… he can play all over the field, has speed, and knows how to take a walk.

AGonz will be great at the start of the season, but I think he will get hurt or traded later.

JMac will fill in until McCoy is given a shot.

by Andy Mc on Feb 9, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

I have to say, I was quite skeptical about your McCoy comments, so I looked up his stats. Boo yea … he is looking pretty good in batter friendly PCL-AAA.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mccoy-001mic

Can he really be effective at SS?

by aagoodfella on Feb 9, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right about McCoy....

I wouldn’t mind seeing him play short if the Jays trade off Gonzalez. He’d could be a good leadoff hitter.

by Tom Dakers on Feb 9, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he also raked in winter ball, with nick leyva as his skipper. played for the tomateros de culiacan

PCL 2009:

.307/.405.400, 27 2B, 40 SB, 462 AB

2009 MEX winter:

.304/.413/.374, 85 TB, 26 SB, 227 AB

by Andy Mc on Feb 10, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe now....

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by Andy Mc on Feb 10, 2010 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

This is why I was upset with the JMac signing...

He would be a fine backup, with upside. I’ll try to find his TZ numbers, but if I recall correctly, he is considered an above average defender as well.

He could still fit as a 25th man. I’d much rather have him than Gathright.

by Andy Mc on Feb 10, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I am ok with JMac. It is nice to have a guy on the bench who can fill anywhere in the field with no worries.

The question is, what decision are the Jays now facing:
(1) Agon OR Mcoy + Jmac
(2) Agon OR Jmac + Mccoy
(3) Jmac OR Mcoy + Agon

I might be in the option (1) camp.

by aagoodfella on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

it would be hard for McCoy and JMac

to both make the 25 unless JBau is fulltime RF.

Bench: Chavez, JMac, Ruiz, McCoy = no platoon for JBau.

or if Lind is OF and Ruiz is DH:

Bench: Chavez, Jmac, JBau, McCoy

either way, no lefty bat on the bench…McCoy and JBau seem like the same player. So I think a lefty – gathright, reed – have the advantage over McCoy. Of course if JMac was on a one year deal, you’d just cut him.

by ayjackson on Feb 10, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

that's interesting that Leyva was his skipper over there

I’m sure he’ll be keeping an eye out for him and talking to Cito.

by REMO on Feb 10, 2010 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

where was Agon in 2008?

I just sort of realized that 2010 will be kind of a reunion for Edwin and Agon.

by aagoodfella on Feb 9, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

I will stick with Andy Mc’s AB numbers

AGON – .260/.300/.400 9HR and 35 RBI

JMAC – .255/.295/.335 2HR and 15 RBI

MCOY – .275/.320/.385 1HR and 14 RBI

by aagoodfella on Feb 9, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

I think Sea Bass’s line will be:

.bad/.mediocre/.awful 6HR, 37RBI

Being a fan is as wonderful as it is irrational. Or vice-versa.

by Kenjamin on Feb 9, 2010 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

Gonzalez
.250/.300/.400 over 375 AB, with 7 HR
McDonald
.230/.250/.275 over 150 AB, with 0 HR
McCoy
.280/.350/.350 over 125 AB, with 1 HR

by REMO on Feb 10, 2010 7:03 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think

McCoy’s defense makes him an everyday option at shortstop – I think he’s a bit like a righty Inglett in that regard. I also wouldn’t put too much stock in his AAA or winter ball numbers – a 28-year old is supposed to put up good numbers at those levels.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Feb 11, 2010 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

heck

if he can do that, he should probably be the starter.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Feb 12, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

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