B-Game Notes, Game Preview and Thread: 3/10, Phillies at Blue Jays
by hugo on Mar 10, 2010 12:43 PM EST
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PrintHi everyone. Some quick notes on this morning's "B" game:
- Brandon Morrow threw 2 pretty effective innings (3 hits, but no walks or runs, and 2 strikeouts). He threw 32 pitches, 20 for strikes.
- Marc Rzepczynski threw a lot of pitches, but made it through three effective innings, yielding only one run. Zep used 49 pitches (34 strikes) to strike out 5 of his nine casualties, but only surrendered two hits and didn't walk anyone.
- Brett Cecil made his spring debut and from what Jordan Bastian says, the cut on his thumb is still holding back his curveball. Cecil wasn't any more efficient than Morrow or Zep, throwing 46 pitches (28 for strikes) over 2 innings and giving up one big 3-run home run to Cody Ransom. He walked one but did strike out 4 in his two innings.
Anyway, on to the A-game. Your Jays' lineup:
Bautista, 3B
Hill, 2B
Lind, DH
Wells, CF
Overbay, 1B
Reed, RF
Buck, C
Gonzalez, SS
Snider, LF
The pitching lineup is interesting. Lance Broadway will start, followed by Kyle Drabek, David Purcey, Jason Frasor, Scott Downs, Kevin Gregg, and Zack Jackson. Frasor, Downs, and Gregg continue to be pitched back-to-back-to-back in the same game.
Anyway, mlb.com will carry an audio feed, though from the point of view of the city of brotherly love. Enjoy, all!
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B-Game Notes?
I’ve never heard of that song. You and your crazy music.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions
it's a radiohead import vinyl-only b-side live available exclusively on itunes japan
so of course you wouldn’t have heard of it. loser
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Since Radiohead hasn't actually made "Music" since OK Computer
You are probably right.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
that Thom Yorke solo record was good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I like to think
that there is exactly one reader out there who gets each song reference and thinks it is awesome. Of course, it is never the same reader.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
right, that was my point. each reference is gotten by one person, never the same person
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
haha nice!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah, they are pretty good
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I was just thinking that...
Considering that McCoy is getting some OF fielding practice in, I think they’re anticipating Bautisa starting at 3B opening day.
true, though
wouldn’t you rather have Bautista in RF and McCoy at third than vice-versa?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
right, I agree
I get the feeling that Cito would like to carry McCoy if he shows he can play a bit of OF
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
a little surprising on Ray, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
aren't there any other former first-round draft picks out there?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I blame poor team chemistry
bring back Millar
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
we should trade Snider for him
he has shown nothing
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
plus he is on the wrong side of 20
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yes
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that's weird
I don’t think mlb audio has any blackouts
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he could strike out every hitter
on three pitches and he will still get sent to the minors
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I thought
Anthopolous’ interview about Dustin McGowan was pretty encouraging.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
well
Litsch won’t be back until around the all-star break, at the soonest, I’d think
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
but my guess is that they will all get a shot at some point during the season
there are always injuries, ineffectiveness, and I don’t see Tallet spending the whole year in the rotation either
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it sounds like a good problem to have. Far cry from the past two years with all really bad injuries.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
At the moment i see....
Marcum, Romero, Morrow, Tallet, Scrabble in the rotation with Dusty on DL and Cecil at AAA … we won´t need the young arms as long as Tallet isn´t traded.
I think Dusty will have a rehab stint at AAA and as soon as he comes back Tallet will be moved to BP….
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
that's the rotation
I used for the SB Nation Jays preview we did for the parent site
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Agreed, the fun thing is trying to project the 2011 rotation. So many options, so many variables. You have some guys who have experience both starting and relieving (Cecil, Stewart & Marcum were all RPs in college and Morrow’s been yo-yo’d in his career), and you could even make an argument for moving someone like McGowan to the bullpen IF we have some solid rotation options, which might help him (finally) stay healthy.
Hamels seems to have good stuff today
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
pretty good start for Drabek, no?
lots of groundouts, seemed to be throwing more strikes than last time
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I had totally forgotten
that Buck was a major piece of that Beltran trade
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
According to Bastian
Cecil still wasn’t able to throw any curves or sliders today at all. Must be pretty frustrating for him to be set back over something so silly. I don’t know if this is a consolation, but with Cito’s Tallet-love I’m not sure he had a shot at making the rotation, barring injury, anyway
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
maybe
he was already better than Tallet was last season, and he was 22 in his rookie season. It’s fine to start him in the minors, but assuming he has a nice little run there early, Tallet shouldn’t be holding him back very long
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I thought the same thing about that Boston game
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah, I wonder if talent can work his away out of the rotation
he didn’t do well in his first time out there.
that sounded pretty close
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
can we take the Gregg deal back now?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
and so was that...
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it doesn't seem as though
it’d be very fun to have him as the closer
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Tallet long man?
Perfect role for him but what about the great job Shawn camp did last year.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
was about 5.4 last season as a starter, just for reference
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
He has been unsuccessful in the national league, what makes the bluejay brass think he is going to succeed in the Al east.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bautista goes yard against Hamels, again
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I think we need a nickname for Jose Bautista, since he IS going to be playing quite a bit this year. Any ideas?
that's not too bad
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
with Cito
playing the Lando Calrissian role
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
smart on his part
after you hit 36 home runs, pitchers are going to start pitching you more carefully
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Snider
he should be mimicking hill and learn to be patience with the breaking balls.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
wow!
so it has been written it shall be done.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I expect more doubles and walks, less home runs this year
Ruiz could provide some power too, if we can just get him in the lineup
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Did clarence?
say that overbay has an everyday job?
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine he'll start against lefties
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
trouble is I can imagine it....
he did say it but I’m not sure that he really meant overbay would play against lefties
his numbers against lefties the past two seasons are beyond awful
Johnny Mac would be a better choice
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it just doesn't make sense though
he’s also said he’d like to carry Ruiz. How do you carry Ruiz and not use him against lefties instead of Overbay?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I would like to think he'll platoon.
but I don’t think he likes Ruiz playing first, for whatever reason.
you could DH Ruiz against lefties
and put Lind at first, if you prefered that, I suppose. But the Jays don’t seem interested in that option either.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah. That would work too.
I don’t know, I haven’t seen Ruiz play first much but he looked good to me.
I agree
I’m just saying there is no shortage of options better than allowing Lyle to play against lefties this season. Up to and including, yes, J-Mac at first base against them.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah there sure are. Dopirak could be an option too.
I’m expecting cito will pick out someone. Don’t want to criticize him before it’s time
I think he will, too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
he was mostly platooned last year
at least, at the start of the season
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
if he doesn't like it
the Jays should trade him, eat his salary, and use Ruiz or Dopriak (if not Wallace) everyday. He’s unlikely to be a type B FA anyway.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
For all the good AA has been doing for the jays he seems to let Clarence do whatever he wants. That a little troublesome.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I know but this is a stupid parting gift from the front office.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Cito said he "might" pick up at at bats spelling players that he would like to rest once a week.
didn’t sound like a platoon was going to happen. he said he wanted overbay to get a chance to prove his worth b/c he was going to be a FA…
http://www.fan590.com/ondemand/media.jsp?content=20100306_125802_2732
But Cito says a ton of things....
I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one…until he shows otherwise
i think Ruiz should play some DH and OF too, he needs to play 70% of games at least, at least to start, in order to evaluate whether he could be a high impact bat
if he mashes, he needs to play every day for the rest of his career
Randy Ruiz with at least 350 at-bats should at least make cito look like he knows how utilize a proper platoon.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Snider had a busy inning
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Over/ under era 4.40
Rotation
1. Romero
2. Marcum
3. Morrow
4. Zep
5. Mcgowan
Broadway hasn't gotten off to a great start
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'll admit I'm not cheering for him....
trying not to pre judge but that picture of the guy that he might have beaten up was pretty awful
I'm not sure
but the way the guy ended up, it didn’t seem like a proportionate response to me, even if he did start it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Indeed
From the write-up, definitely doesn’t sound like the guy started it – Broadway got upset at the guy standing up for his friend’s girlfriend.
Uhg. Stupid people at bars… and people wonder why I don’t go out to bars ever – every hopped up idiot with a bit of liquor wants to prove themselves against the biggest guy in the house… usually me. :S
"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."
They took it too far and that guy had extensive surgery.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
also
it was apparently two on one, and the guy kept getting seriously beat after he was down, and Broadway might’ve punched a woman out, too. Not prejudging anyone’s guilt or innocence, but if he was guilty it doesn’t sound like there’s any excuse
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Bautista with another big day?
Seriously, he must be hitting around .750
Sit him down till the regular season, Seriously!
Its like when I go golfing and hit a bucket of balls before. If I stripe the first 5-6 balls, I’ll leave the other 100 balls at the range and go hit the course. I don’t want to waste my good swings at the range!
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Bobby Valentine
as a replacement for Cito at the end of year if he isn’t already hired by another team.
Other than Valentine, are there any 'free agent' mangers the Jays could go after?
Or should the just go ahead and promote Butterfield?
But wears out his welcome after a couple of years.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Eric Wedge
If not Butters, than I think Wedge would be the best fit for a developing/building ballclub.
I sort of like the Butterfield idea
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
But will he wear a fake moustache to sneak in the dugout after he's been tossed?
That’s a quality I look for in a manager
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
that's a very good interview question
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
There really is only 2 necessary interview questions
1) Do you know how a double switch works?
2) Would you be willing to wear a fake moustache to sneak back into the dugout?
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
one more
would you PH, late in a close game, for a terrible Kevin Millar, vs a RHP, for Overbay, who crushes righties, and serves as a major defensive upgrade?
or do you hold grudges against those who don’t agree with you?
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
that might be a good interview question
for prospective Bluebird Banter members, too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
That minor league manager for the braves is a legend for the exit he displayed
i wonder if the jays will give him a shot.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
What's the score Tom?
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's fine, I was able to see it
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
is mccoy playing center?
interesting
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'm all for it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Think Darin mastroianni can be a September call-up?
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I like him as a bench player
not sure if he will hit enough
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
afternoon snack time!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
sure
but my idea of an afternoon snack is fresh snow peas and green tea, so YMMV
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
been called a lot of things
that’s a first, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
no
I think he belongs at AAA anyway, he’s never had much success there. Still, he’s more interesting than a lot of our minor-league outfielders, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don’t know think so but it wouldn’t hurt to give him the chance.
by Ahmed Abukar on Mar 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
mccoy over gathright
I have been trying to find out if gathright is even faster than mccoy… he definitely has nothing else on him… except his “veteran” tag, which may actually be the most important to our old manager
what if there is a car
in the basepaths between 3rd and home
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that could be a factor too
but i think gathright looks fat, and has lost more than a step…. mccoy, on the other hand…
didn't Cody Ransom
already home in the B-game this morning?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
To quote ZvonnyG
Playoffs!!!11
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
K
up and down performance for Purcey
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
not that I remember, but it's certainly possible
who did you think was supposed to do it?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
actually I can assume it's me
or we wouldn’t be having this conversation, right?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
no no....don't assume....
I just had some memory of us talking about it…but I know I didn’t do anything about it.
I don't remember, just got a note today and thought that I'd seen it before...
wasn’t he the one that congratulated us on Canada’s hockey win?
that does sound familiar
though the “us” is doing a lot of work in that sentence
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
why thank you
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
just looked at the e-mail
didn’t you already do one for the Red Sox people? is it gauche to send the same thing?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
cool
I sent our SB nation thing in today. I’m planning on getting the O’s preview up on our site this weekend-ish.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Arencibia
almost hit that out
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
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