Monday Morning Bantering
by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2010 10:59 AM EDT
in Toronto Blue Jays News
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PrintThe Jays have two games today, an A and B game. The B game will have started at 10:00 eastern and has a number of our A batters:
Bautista 3B Hill 2B Lind DH Wells CF Overbay 1B Buck C Lubanski RF Gonzalez SS Gathright LF
B game stats aren't counted in the player's spring training stats, which in this case is too bad.
The A game is at 1:00 eastern and will be on MLB.tv (there was just a twit from the Jays saying Sportsnet East will show today's game), the lineup for that one:
Hoffpauir 3B Emaus 2B Reed RF Ruiz 1B Dopirak DH Snider LF Aguila CF Molina C Pastornicky SS.
I'm looking forward to geting a chance to see Pastornicky play. I don't know who Aguila is, there was a Chris Aguila that played outfield for the Marlins from 2004 to 2006 and who was with the Mets in 2008. I guess that could be him. He'd be 31 now and clearly not a prospect of any sort.
Pitching in the A game will be Marc Rzepczynski, Brett Cecil, Casey Janssen and Jeremy Accardo.
The Jays made a couple of roster moves, sending Ray (formerly Reidier) Gonzalez to Vegas and Jesus Merchan to the minor league camp. Jordan Bautista twits that Jesse Carlson has a sore knee and will test it on Wednesday, throwing off a mound.
There is nothing new on the Adeinis (or Adeiny) Hechevarria signing. The Jays won't announce his signing (or say anything about him) until he passes a physical.
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Oh yes
But they have their first round picks, the Leafs traded away theirs for two years, which is just much more repeatable fodder for them.
Ball.
Yeah
I think the Leafs should fire everyone that was anywhere close when they decided to trade away their draft picks.
Pretty bad when you give up all that for Phill Kessel.
If anything Tom. Pat Quinn has been very funny with his post game interviews this year. I had alot of LOL moments listening to him talking about his players performances after a bad loss.
Speaking of crazy management
Had to get this in, but I just gotta say the Flames are bloody nuts. Trying to make themselves into the Leafs 2.0
Ball.
Yeah....I don't understand what they are doing at all
I think if they miss the playoffs, they have to fire the GM
Clubhouse leadership role for Tallet?
Interesting column by Richard Griffin in the Star interviewing Brian Tallet, where he talks about how he might be able to provide some leadership to the younger players. Always nice to see a player want to step up in this regard and he makes a very good point about the importance of having experienced failure and bounced back from it, as this one of the toughest challenges facing young players. I know Tallet starting isn’t a popular idea around her, and presumably he can still provide this clubhouse role out of the bullpen, but maybe there’s something to be said for having his veteran presence in the rotation. In the end though it really comes down to who pitches the best really.
I don’t think Tallet starting is unpopular as much as it doesn’t necessarily make a lot of sense right now. Eveland especially has done well enough in the spring to deserve a spot in the rotation, you’ve got young guys like Cecil, Mills, and Ray who are close enough that you need to test them at the MLB level, you’ve got guys like Purcey and Janssen who either need to finally produce or get shuffled off, and you’ve got guys like Eveland who if you don’t play are gone. We know Tallet is an excellent lefty long relief man who can start if you need him to, but right now, with all those pitchers, you don’t need him in that role.
I dont see why they would sign a guy like Eveland if they dident plan on using him. I mean why get a average lefty for only 2-3 ST games when we have a bevey of average/above average southpaws in waiting.
I would like to think that Eveland is in the rotation and Tallet is in the pen.
Could end up the other way around
Eveland relief and Tallet rotation.
I’d hate them to lose Eveland on waivers, mostly because I think he’s worth something. Not likely to be a long term member of the rotation but if he pitches a few games and looks good we might be able to trade him and get something in return.
Eveland
I think there might be something to him. He’s got nice movement and control with his fastball, and is still developing as a pitcher. I could see him possibly clicking this year and turning into a solid lefty in the rotation.
As for Tallet, he’s either an excellent reliever or a mediocre to poor starter. I’d rather have him in the role he’s best at.
All fair points. I just wonder if there might be something to having an older guy in the rotation. My impression is you have these little tribes within a baseball team, with the starters being one tight group, the relievers another, etc. So within that environment maybe an older guy would be beneficial to the other starters. Not saying it should be a primary factor or anything, just something possibly to consider. But of course if Tallet really doesn’t get the job done, then another starter should take his place.
I only think a leader is of any value if he leads the right way.....
If you make your 5th starter the leader you are asking for troubles. The coaches can give them the older voice they need.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that, because the role of the ballplayer on the team is not necessarily directly in relation to their role in the clubhouse. However, I also think people over-emphasis the whole ‘leader’ thing, because it is a useful label to stick on a ballplayer to define them as one thing or the other.
Bottom line for me is that Eveland has been showing some upside, and he’s got the tools there to be an effective starter if he can put them all together. I’d rather have my ‘crafty veteran’ in the bullpen as a long reliever, especially since a young rotation is going to blow up every so often.
Back on topic
Oh.
Right. We talk about baseball here.
So about Carlson, as much as we love him for what he did in NY, is it bad that I think it would be better if he goes out with his knee and thus gives a spot to Eveland and we don’t lose him?
Ball.
Well Jordan said a 'sore knee'
We’ll see if it gets worse, I doubt sore knee is enough for a DL trip. But if it turns out to be more, sure. Carlson has an option year left, so he could be sent down, but Cito likes him, I do too really. Hate to send down a guy that you know is useful and can pitch two days in a row.
bastian posted on his twitter yesterday who the pitchers in the b game are:
“Pitchers to work in 10 am B game vs. Phillies at Dunedin Stadium on Monday: Broadway, Register, Lewis, Purcey, Collazo, Jackson”
Jays on TV
Being in Phoenix, I get very little news about my beloved Jays. What a treat to get to see them on TV today and get a first hand look at some of the prospects in particular. As I’ve previously posted on Blue Jay Junction and other Jays blogs, the most interesting battle to me is the 1B/DH backup between Ruiz and Dopirak. As I’ve said before, I believe that Dopirak is one of those guys who just needs a chance for it to finally click at the major league level like it finally did for Adam Lind last year. Whether that will be with the Jays or not it debatable as Ruiz is making a bigtime play with his performance. Dopirak has the bigger upside if he fulfills his potential however. For the backup OF, Mike McCoy so far is very deserving based on his speed and flexibility being able to play mutiple IF and OF positions.
I still say the Jays have too many guys without options and who are on the cusp that AA will make one or more deals to clear the field a little. If Frasor overcomes his blip in performance yesterday and has a strong spring the remainder of the way he is the most likely to be traded having already garnered significant interest from other teams. However, Carlson, Janssen, Accardo, Camp, Tallet, etc. etc. are not all going to make the team and we will lose one or more of them for nothing if we try to waive them. It’s time for AA to package one or more with perhaps one of our SP prospects to net some minor league talent at 3B or OF for the future.
Enjoy the game, I look forward to reading later posts.
Yeah we got too many without options so I'd expect a trade or two.
I think this might be Dopirak’s last real chance to make the Jays and he’s not doing much this spring. Wallace will pass him soon and Cooper might pass him as well. Dopirak’s 26 this year so the clock is ticking.
Something has got to give
Overbay, Ruiz, Wallace, Dopirak, and Cooper create a huge logjam. We also don’t have that DH spot available for them.
I thought Overbay would be gone, but he is having a good spring and is on a contract year. AA seems to like cashing in on those type A and B free agents, so it seems Overbay will be around for the year. Somehow I see the same happening with Tallet, Downs, Frasor and Gregg. AA seems to be using this year to get another shot of draft picks for the 2011 draft.
With all that said, Dopirak is probably an injury replacer while Wallace gets his full season in AAA.
lets trade them all for Adrian Gonzalez
throw in all our pitchers too?
The good part about having lots of options is some won't pan out.
Having too many is much better than not having any. But then I don’t see Dopirak as a being a great player in the majors. Randy Ruiz…he’s fun and all but I don’t see him as a long term guy.
Don't Forget JP Arencibia
Doesn’t he have mid to low defensive skills? What if we kept 3 catchers, he being one with intent to get time at 1b, DH RUiz, more playing time for Lind in Left, Snider starts at AA? or we just TRADE strike 3 looking Overbay so that I can sleep at night knowing we tried?
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