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Quick Recap: Spring Game 11, Jays and Tigers

Blue Jays 7 Tigers 10

The A squad stayed home for the B game and won. The B squad bused to the A game and lost. But it was fun to watch the game.

Pitching:

  • Marc Rzepczynski: 4 innings, 6 hits, 1 walk, 2 homers, 4 strikeouts, 3 earned. He had a tough first inning but settled down after that. One bad inning, 3 good.
  • Casey Janssen pitched a good inning, walking one and getting ground balls. Looked good on the mound.
  • Brett Cecil: 2.1, 6 hits, 1 walk, 1 homer, 3 strikeouts, 4 runs, 3 earned. He wasn't helped by poor defense and the runners he left on base scored. Looked like he was tired after 2 innings. Seemed to be throwing all his pitches though.
  • Bubbie Buzachero: how can you not like a guy named Bubbie? Got the final 2 outs, but gave up 2 hits, 2 walks  and 3 earned runs. He also took a ball hard off the shin, which I'm sure didn't help. The double he allowed went off Hoffpauir's glove at third base. It was hit hard but if the play was made it would have helped. Not a prospect.

Batting:

  • Jarrett Hoffpauir: 1 for 4, a double and a walk. I thought he made an error but I guess it was called an infield single on the play he threw past the first baseman. I guess it would have been a close play. .227 at the moment, I don't think he's impressed enough to have a shot at the team.
  • Brad Emaus: 1 for 5, 2 RBI. Looked good at 2B. Batting .333. Won't make the team but having a good spring.
  • Jeremy Reed: 1 for 5. Quietly having a nice spring: .391.
  • Randy Ruiz: 2 for 4 and a walk. Had a double and a walk. Showed how you can look good and bad in the same game. Struck out and ground out on the first pitch in the bottom of the 8th, that looked off the plate. But another good game for Randy. Hitting .500. Played first, could have helped out fielders by making a couple of tough catches on throws (he was given an error for a 'missed catch') but doesn't look bad at the position at all.
  • Brian Dopirak: 1 for 5 with 3 strikeouts, but the 1 was an opposite field homer. Watched strike 3 to end the game. .261. 
  • Travis Snider: 1 for 3 with a walk. 3 of 4 plate appearances were good, the other he swung at the first pitch and missed it. Over threw 3rd trying to get a runner there, the play was backed up well so it didn't cost anything, but it was a poor throw. Took a couple of close pitches to get the walk. Hitting .200 for the spring now.
  •  Someone named Chris Aguila played CF: 1 for 4 with a triple. Only mentioning him because I didn't know he was on the team. Played for the Marlins 2004-2006 and with the Mets in 2008. 
  • Jose Molina: 0 for 3 with a strikeout. He makes Raul Chavez look like a hitter. Well no, but he's not good. .083.
  • JP Arencibia: 1 for 1. .308.
  • Tyler Pastronicky: 1 for 4 and a run. I thought he showed good range. Did make a throwing error.

Bastian twitters that Cito "raved about Purcey", who threw in the B game and says Cito would 'like to have a 3rd lefty' in the pen. Also:

Cito, on Purcey: "You would've been amazed with what you would've seen this morning."

Which is great and all but Eveland has looked pretty good too. I'm not sure I'd overlook Purcey's history of wildness for a couple of good spring innings. He didn't pitch that great in his other spring appearances.

Eveland has pitched 8 innings, with 5 hits, no earned runs, 2 walks and 6 strikeouts.

Purcey (not counting today's B game) 4 innings, 9 hits, 4 earned, 2 homers, 1 walk and 3 strikeouts.

I like Purcey too, I like guys that miss bats and I think he'd learn to find the plate, but if we wanted another lefty for the pen, which would you take? 

Well we have 2 weeks of spring training left to sort it all out. 

No Jays spring game tomorrow so Shawn Marcum will start the Triple A spring game to keep him on schedule to pitch opening day.

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Don't forget

Eveland is substantially younger than Purcey and has had more success in the majors.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 15, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

that's true too....it all doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

Of course we haven’t heard from AA on any of this. He may see things the way we do.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 15, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn’t the problem with Purcey that he looks like an Ace one outing and batting practice the next

by aagoodfella on Mar 15, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know hugo … Eveland is 1 year younger, so if you want to call that substantially I’ll have to disagree on that. Also, major league career lines:
Eveland: 5.54era, 1.70whip, 6.4k/9, 4.6/bb9
Purcey: 5.81era, 1.59whip, 7.7k/9, 4.7/bb9

What Eveland brings to the table is the ability to keep the ball in the park, while Purcey brings the ability to miss more bats. Both have control issues.

For me, if it’s a rotation or long role I’d probably say take Eveland, if it’s a LH specialist role I’d take Purcey. Purcey both in the majors and in the minors has an extreme split RH/LH wise … Eveland does not. Plus, I think Purcey’s ceiling is a bit higher.

by jayjay on Mar 16, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah

he’s a full year-and-a-half younger, so you’re wrong about that.

in 2008, Eveland had a full-time starting job for Oakland and made 29 starts. He was 24 and went 9-9 with a 4.34 ERA. His peripheral numbers weren’t great, though he was good at getting groundballs, but all-in-all, that’s not a dissimilar season to the one that Ricky Romero had last year in his age 24 season (albeit with weaker K/BB numbers, in a pitchers’ park, and in an easier division). But it’s unequivocally far and above anything Purcey has done in the majors.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

but anyway

you can keep both in the organization if Eveland makes the team, because Purcey has options, whereas if you keep Purcey at the expense of Eveland, you lose him. I wouldn’t want the Jays to throw away Purcey (I actually like him okay for a bullpen role) and I don’t want them to throw away Eveland either. I think that was Tom’s main point and I agree with it.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense if it comes down to that. Though I’m not 100% certain Eveland would get grabbed, maybe if his spring stays hot. Heck, I defended signing the guy around here when people were saying AA was wasting his time … so it’s not like I hate the guy. I’m just saying, if you say he’s younger and more successful than Purcey … not REALLY.

by jayjay on Mar 16, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again, if you call 1.5 yrs substantial … I disagree.

And why are we looking only at a sample of Eveland’s work vs. his entire body of work. Yeah, he had a good era … but like you said, bad peripherals. And on top of that, he’s been shelled every other time he’s been in the majors. To further the comparison:
Purcey’s career opponents line: .276-.365-.446 (808ops)
Eveland’s: .300-.386-.424 (809ops)

6 of one …

by jayjay on Mar 16, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again, if you call 1.5 yrs substantial … I disagree.

That makes little sense to me. Eighteen months for pitchers in their 20s is a big difference and anyone who knows anything will tell you that. Moreover, if you’re arguing that two players are essentially the same in terms of what they’ve achieved, doing it and being a year and a half younger is a big deal. It’s one of the biggest things evaluators look at. Though it’s true that pitchers develop differently, the younger you are the more chance you still have to take a turn for the better.

Again, even if you are arguing that Eveland and Purcey are basically the same, albeit with different skills, you would want to make the move that keeps them both in the organization?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Mar 16, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, which is why I said as much above … if it comes down to keeping one or both, keep both. If that’s the argument, I agree.

As for the age thing, it becomes a really “noisy” issue when the players have such dramatically different paths to the majors. I think it’s great to compare different HS guys or different college guys, but when you start comparing one to the other based on age it’s a complicated issue.

by jayjay on Mar 16, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

More from Bastian
Cito on Encarnacion: “Hopefully he’s going to have a chance to start the season. If not, we’ll start with him on the DL.”

I guess he’s still “tender”? I would think he’d be getting into games this week…

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 15, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

So if he’s not in any games this week, his fate is sealed?

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 15, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

very good video .. +1 for the link

by aagoodfella on Mar 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace/Taylor

Excellent link, there’s another video there breaking down the taylor/wallace swap as well. nice find.

by brewerm on Mar 15, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 bad, 3 good = 4 bad in baseball

maybe I’m taking your comment about alphabet’s outing too literally?
it sounded like something Wilner would say to convince his listeners that a poor outing really wasn’t that poor

by Bunker on Mar 15, 2010 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t agree that one bad inning means the whole outing was bad. It’s a good sign that he settled down, then retired 11 of the next 15 batters he faced without allowing anymore runs. If this is a game during the season, then maybe he keeps that going a few more innings lasting six or seven. Three runs isn’t terrible – gives your team a good chance to win.

by jabalong on Mar 15, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think I may have read the stat line wrong to begin with. I was thinking it was 6 runs, instead of 6 hits, and after seeing 2 Hrs I scrolled down.

by Bunker on Mar 17, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone Remember Sergio Santos? He's Back

I posted an article today on Blue Jays Junction about Sergio Santos, formerly with the Jays, and now about to make the White Sox bullpen as a pitcher.

by wbruyea on Mar 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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