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Thursday Bantering and Game Thread for March 18, Orioles and Jays

I'm busy this morning so just a quick game thread post. Should be back for some of the game, it is on Gameday Audio.

A couple of quick notes. Zech Zinicola has been returned to the Nationals. Had to figure that would happen, we have too many bullpen arms to keep a rule five guy.

Zack Jackson and Lance Broadway have been sent to the minor league camp. Down to 47 players in the major league camp.

The lineup today is Bautista 3B, Hill 2B, Lind DH, Wells CF, Overbay 1B, Buck C, Reed RF, Snider LF, McDonald SS. So Mac is back in camp, must be tough on him.

Ricky Romero is to pitch 5 innings and Dana Eveland 4.

The National Post has a story on Adam Loewen. He really does have to show something this year, but he has a nice looking swing.

Tao of Stieb has a post about Cito Gaston's first 'final season' with the Jays, back in 1997. He remembers things much the way I do. The reluctance to use Shawn Green, Carlos Delgado and Shannon Stewart. Joe Carter batting cleanup even though he was long past his overdue date. Otis Nixon, Orlando Merced, Carlos Garcia and Rueben Sierra seeing way too much playing time. 

Enjoy your morning. 

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Lubanski looking kinda evil there

and what’s with Buck in 6th in the line-up?

Oh. Right.

The Manager.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Lyle Overbay to Marlins?

Check out todays post in Blue Jay Junction for thoughts about rebuilding the Jays, a potential Overbay trade and information on the 2010 draft.

by wbruyea on Mar 18, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

His blog it seems...

He always adds a link to it.

I think Overbay isn’t getting moved till July though.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

clicked on it

the overbay rumour is speculation. the miami herald says the marlins are looking for a 1Bman, but mention Lowell.

overbay will be moved as soon as somebody offers a faint-hope prospect. there’s no reason to wait until july.

by ayjackson on Mar 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Draft

Well, at least we know they won’t be taking James Paxton…

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still have a feeling

that the Jays are going to pick him again….
I think he’s going to drop to the second round and AA always says he likes players he’s familiar with

by FenixL on Mar 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different crew with negotiations now as well, so it isn’t necessarily a slam dunk that it wouldn’t work

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My vaguest understanding is the team can only draft him again if he allows it.

A player that doesn’t sign can refuse to be drafted by the same team.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beeston's comments is the reason why Paxton got rejected from college.

It isn’t necessarily Beeston’s fault. But Paxton would never have been audited if Beeston did not make the comment about Boras. Technically, Boras is to blame.
So I don’t know if Paxton would want to come to the Jays after that fiasco.

by Joey P on Mar 18, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a bit confused, why was Zinicola returned to the Nationals? Were the Jays just borrowing him or something?

by Icedragon on Mar 18, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

He was a rule 5 pickup.

Meaning he had to stay on the Jays Roster or else he was returned to the Nationals.

Since there was no way Zinicola was going to break camp with the Jays given the number of bullpen arms we have they figured just send him back now rather then wait.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ok, I wasn’t sure a rule 5 meant so….that clears it up, thanks.

by Icedragon on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tallet/Eveland

What are the chances one of them gets dealt prior to April?

I can’t see how a contending team wouldn’t value that sort of rotation-bullpen-lefty versatility.

by ayjackson on Mar 18, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they are deadline-deal acquisitions, personally. Or a “wait until someone suffers an injury” acquisition.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Causes a major logjam until then though

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Romero isn't starting off well...

a walk. Oh well it is sore arm time for the pitchers

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Our radio guys are much better than average

but they’re not exactly Moneyball types. Nothing against them, but I doubt they know stuff like wOBA well.

by Patrick_M on Mar 18, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

romero again with the groundballs

4 gb outs, two strikeouts…if i remember correctly, didn’t he get 10-1 gb/fb ratio last game?

by asal313 on Mar 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that's right about the last game

he keeps doing that and he’ll have a great year

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think anyone would be complaining

about 0 homers on the year if he batted .500 and had an obp of .737

by asal313 on Mar 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know it would never happen

i’m just saying that as fans, it would be silly to judge a guy based only on his home run total…a guy that gets on base every time he’s up is just as valuable…

by asal313 on Mar 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if he were to get to one of those milestone numbers

like batting .400 or obp at .500 they’d talk about it…

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yankee domination

here

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

just saying

that’s what I want nothing more than

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok ok ok

I guess that’s on me, then?

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teasing,

but yeah you….no rush…

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind either way

Though writing about the Yankees doesn’t sound like my idea of a good time, either

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Writing about the Yankees is the one thing that will always get me emails

Normally ones telling me no one reads me and I know nothing, and by the way I miss spelled something in the 3 paragraph,

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Yankee fans?

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Seems Red Sox fans are obnoxious on the site…Yankee fans use email to be jerks.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dennis Eckersley hasn't figured out

how to set up an email account

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got a lot of bad comments from Yankee fans on the Scott Downs piece

that they put up on Pinstripe Alley. A guy I used to play in a band with read it (without knowing that I wrote for here) . . . needless to say, he was surprised to see my name up there

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems to be the way it goes

Yankee fans think if you aren’t a Yankee fan you know nothing about baseball.
That said, the bloggers from both the Red Sox and Yankee sites seem like very nice people.

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

if more than a little misguided

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone has to provide the world with petroleum

but that doesn’t mean I love OPEC

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

if there were no oil tanks

there wouldn’t need to be any oil tank inspectors, so I’d be out of a job, too

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should move here

but to get back to the point…I’ll do the Yankee post, you’ll do the keys posts?

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for me

i’m thinking of doing an introductory post for a series, which will eventually have a separate post to flesh out each key

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

People just say it?

I thought you had to drunkenly shout it all the time.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose

But online is easier on my ears

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess....is one of those things

where I keep thinking the folks on here ought to be brighter than the drunken fans at games

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

tough on the eyes when it's in caps,

though.

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least it wasn't in bold too

Also there’s no stupid wave here. They did that a looot during Halladay’s last home game. Terrible.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wave

If everyone could creatively reply and create new topics, then we could create a wave

by Joey P on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was assigned to AAA

and he wasn’t on our 40 man….there must be something about him that clubs don’t like

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

romero's line

5.0 innings, 5 hits, 2 ers, 2 walks, 5 ks, 10-0 gb/fb
assuming of course that they put in eveland now?

by asal313 on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

very nice start...

the plan was for Eveland to go in

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

great line

just keep getting ’em to pound it into the ground, ricky . . . let your defensive specialist shortstops take care of the rest

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is nice to see Romero's game got better as the game went along

And he faced the Orioles starting lineup for the most of the day

by Joey P on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vernon struck out.

1 for 4 with an RBI on the day

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Strikeout to end the inning....

but he’s not in the spot where he can have a bad outing and still make the team

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

unless Purcey dazzles and Eveland pitches poorly

I think you’re right

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looks like he is earning it

by aagoodfella on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He would be more interesting

Won’t make it out of spring obviously, but hopefully he’ll mash so much we can’t keep him down and move Buck to a back up.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well maybe

Barajas was a master streaker, so if Buck can be average and consistant, he’d be better. Has he been that so far…? I’m not sure.

Ball.

by Casusby on Mar 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

master streaker

sounds like an interesting skill. probably more useful for a drunken fan than a starting catcher, though

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Mar 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lubanski homers....

triple yesterday, homer today…I’m going to be back on the bandwagon again

by Tom Dakers on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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